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Major MTT hand

  • 07-11-2006 10:53am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭


    Me - $100k
    Villain - $80k

    Down to the last 10% of the field or so in a major live MTT, blinds around $2k/$4k with a 500 chip ante, so costing roughly 11k a round

    villain has been involved in a lot of pots and has seemed quite LAG raising a lot pre-flop and has been up and down quite a lot, see sawing between $50k and $150k, although he has been picking up a lot of pots on the flop by being strong

    i'm on the button with AQs and the villain raises from 2 off the button to the standard amount $12k, i decided to re-raise hoping to take the pot down there, so i re-raise to $32k he deliberates and then calls

    flop Qs7d2c (Pot $75k stacks left approx villain $47k me $67k)

    he checks to me

    what's my best line of action here?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    shove


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    Gholimoli wrote:
    shove

    holla


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    wait for a sec.......and then shove:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    valor wrote:
    holla
    at the risk of being laughed at,what does this Holla thing actually mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭loosecannon


    What about my action pre-flop, is a call behind here too weak, is a fold ridiculous?

    i agree that's it's about as good a flop as i could ask for and i presume that there is no other line but pushing here? anyone else play it different


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Gholimoli wrote:
    at the risk of being laughed at,what does this Holla thing actually mean?

    its from 2+2, some stt donk (who is actually a pretty good poster) always ended his posts with it, he moved from stts to hsnl (ie real poker) and everyone insulted him for ages, it was actually pretty funny, for a while everyone finished their posts with holla. After a while it died down but he took it with such good grace that noone insults him about it anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    What about my action pre-flop, is a call behind here too weak, is a fold ridiculous?

    i agree that's it's about as good a flop as i could ask for and i presume that there is no other line but pushing here? anyone else play it different


    the pots too big to do anything but push.

    Preflop is very aggressive, if he is a good player then his range completely destroys you (ie its AA KK QQ JJ) once he calls your raise. Most players arent anything like that tight though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    i prefer to check this flop

    he only has 3 outs if he has a king, and even less if he has a pair

    the stacks are so small copmpared to the pot you can afford to slow it down and snap off a delayed continuation bet


    edit: just saw you raised him pre-flop. slow playing this is a mistake now as a push on the flop looks weaker and something like 88 might call you. depends on opponent tho, some i would still slow play this against...


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Gholimoli wrote:
    at the risk of being laughed at,what does this Holla thing actually mean?
    The actual word itself is a derivation of the word 'Holler', meaning 'Yell', and in this context means something akin to 'I fully endorse this opinion, and find it to be the correct course of action in this instance'.

    It is equivalent to posting '.' in boards speak.

    The above is what I would say if my middle name was wikipedia, and is possibly about as accurate, but that is what I believe anyhow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    From Wikipedia:

    "Holla may refer to an informal greeting popular among those in the Hip Hop subculture."

    It's really annoying but it still gives me a chuckle.

    Onto the hand. If villain has been playing very lag, then reraising preflop is fine. When he calls your raise I'd be getting images of this in my head.

    I might shove, but I may slow down and reassess on turn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭loosecannon


    This was actually a hand of mine from this year's WSOP, and needless to say it's been bugging me for a while, so i thought that i'd post it to see how it was played, i had probably just below an average stack with around 560 left (in the money) and still lots of play when this hand happened (although a steal of the blinds was starting to be worth quite a large % of your chips)

    i didn't actually push, although i essentially did, i bet $25k leaving me very pot commited. with this bet i was hoping to represent a missed AK and a badly played flop (ie hoping to get JJ - 88) to think they were ahead and push (maybe this is completely backward logic?) but i thought i was ahead and thought that bet smelt of a badly played AK

    anyway, he duly pushed all in behind me and i of course called, anyone like to name his hand??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Q7s/Q2s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭marius


    AA - but im secretly hoping for the hammer...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭loosecannon


    no, it's wasn't AA or those two q rag holdings that ian suggested!

    if you guess it i'll let you know, bit more on the player profile, he was a mad scandi (as they all are!) who hadn't yet been looked up on his aggressive play, his one all in had resulted in him losing half his stack, which he'd built back up to $80k

    is probably tough enough to guess his holding (kudos to whoever does!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    KQ or J10 soooooooted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    22 for Villain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭oq4v3ht0u76kf2


    Gonna just throw out a guess of 27s? :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    It must be one of AA, KK, QQ, 77, 22 for it to have bugged you for so long, therefore my guess is QQ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭loosecannon


    further establishing his reputation as one of the very best posters on this site, Ste gets it! wp

    QQ it was, he managed to catch the case queen to send me to the very edge of oblivion in the tourney (was left with about 19k and little hope!) ended up getting knocked out about 2 orbits later with the blinds killing me

    i was virtually drawing dead, i needed the magic of running A A for the win!

    obviously was gutted about the hand but never seem to be able to get the hand out of my head, i personally think i was comprehensively outplayed but i still can't see myself getting away from it at any point!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    I think this is a clear shove preflop.


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