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Name of an Irish Cardinal

  • 06-11-2006 9:33pm
    #1
    oRlyYaRly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭


    I've no idea what the hell a cardinal is or anything but I need to know the name of one for homework. He/She has to be alive and Irish.

    Thanks a bunch!


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  • #2
    Medina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 390 ✭✭Medina


    Hey try here
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_cardinals


  • #3
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    oRlyYaRly wrote:
    I've no idea what the hell a cardinal is or anything but I need to know the name of one for homework. He/She has to be alive and Irish.
    No doubt another "Catholic" on the 2006 census form as filled out by mammy. ;)


  • #4
    Asiaprod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    The Atheist wrote:
    No doubt another "Catholic" on the 2006 census form as filled out by mammy. ;)
    If I don't do this I will be accused of favourism and not doing my job.
    Hold out your hand:p


  • #5
    Dades
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    Merely an observation on the youth of today!


  • #6
    maitri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭maitri


    Asiaprod wrote:
    If I don't do this I will be accused of favourism and not doing my job.
    Hold out your hand:p

    Didn't know you had it in you to be so strict, Asia! Good thing we are on a safe distance... :D


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  • #7
    ISAW
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭ISAW


    How do we know the cardinal in question is alive? :)

    What test does the teacher use?

    a cardinal by the way is not a spiritual church office. It is a temporal one. It comes from the time of City states in what is now Italy. a cardinal ia a prince of the church. One does not even need to be a priest in order to be a cardinal. Indeed even some Popes were only given holy orders on the day they were made Pope. But the pope does at least have to be a priest. A cardinal doesnt!


  • #8
    Schuhart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭Schuhart


    oRlyYaRly wrote:
    ...She has to be alive...
    I love it.


  • #9
    Asiaprod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    The Atheist wrote:
    Merely an observation on the youth of today!
    And probably correct too.

    <smacks his own hand too, ouch>


  • #10
    Asiaprod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    Schuhart wrote:
    I love it.

    SHE...........not in Ireland surely.


  • #11
    maitri
    Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭maitri


    Asiaprod wrote:
    SHE...........not in Ireland surely.

    Though legends tell you did have a female Bishop: St. Brigid of Ireland:

    "Legend has it that, when she was consecrated to the rank of Abbess, St. Mel was elderly and inadvertently read the consecration for a Bishop and that this could not be rescinded, under any circumstances. While the ordination would have been considered illegitimate, it would still be considered valid (in the technical sense of the terms used by the Roman Catholic Church). "

    However Abesses had much more actual power than Bishops at that time anyway.... ;)

    More about St. Brigid Here

    And there is also this story about a female Pope (Pope Joan)... but she was not Irish (and the story is very dubious anyway... unfortunately)


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  • #12
    Asiaprod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    maitri wrote:
    "inadvertently read the consecration for a Bishop and that this could not be rescinded, under any circumstances. While the ordination would have been considered illegitimate, it would still be considered valid (in the technical sense of the terms used by the Roman Catholic Church). "
    Ah, the good old days.

    <grabs head to stop it spinning>


  • #13
    ISAW
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,142 ✭✭✭ISAW


    Asiaprod wrote:
    Ah, the good old days.

    <grabs head to stop it spinning>
    There is also the Pope Joan myth.
    And I am reminded of the conclave where one of the aged cardinals died and they had to leave the corpse ther in the coffin until they had decided. the local lord who fancied himself for pope had got fed up of conclaves going on for years at the nobles expense. he surrounded the conclave (actually i think this is how conclaves got going he herded them into a building and surrounded it) placed guards on the roof. who stayed there and had to go to the toilee down on top of them put them on a starvation diet and supplied only water to drink. that lastd a week before they made a prompt decision.

    Now if only stormont had roman traditions :)actaully i think the papacy or an anti pope offshoot was in bologna at the time.


  • #14
    philologos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    The Atheist wrote:
    No doubt another "Catholic" on the 2006 census form as filled out by mammy. ;)

    well I wouldn't know many cardinals either. (well maybe Cardinal Connell). would be interested in learning some more about the structure of Catholicism though, seeing as i'm an Anglican myself. Anyone have any links of use?


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