i'd drive a million miles, to be with you tonight

Bandana boy

3 hands from Tribeca 6 max 0.5-1 NL He
In all instances i well cover

I am playing extremely TAG (VPIP12-15%) after dropping down a couple of levels

Villain 1 Really bad player
1st hand with him i have AA pump it up bet 3 streets and he calls on the river with rivered 1 pair of 7s 9 Kicker at no point on Q high board did he ever even have a draw Strange
He has called every continuation bet I have made on flop and turn and not once played back at me

Hand 1
So MP raises to 4 i call on button with JJ as does Villain in sb and 1 other
Pot 17
Flop t95 rainbow checked to initial raiser and he bets 8 i call as does Villain
Pot 41
Turn 8 completing rainbow check to mp who bets 10 i raise to 28 and Villain1 pushs for 56 mp raiser folds

Hand 2
Villain 2
He has called nearly every raise i have made and bet if i checked into him
I check called him down with QQ on K high board and he had nothing earlier
So serial raiser makes it 4 Villain makes it 10 i pump to 25 with AKclubs ( little dodgy but bear with me ) fold from raiser villain nearly times out calling
Flop J62 2 clubs Villain open pushs for 76

What do i have to put him on to call here or to fold ?

Hand 3
V1 85
V2 135
limpers 50 and 60

I check 4 limpers in bb with 22
Pot 6
flop jt2 all hearts
Sb checks i check opened for 5 by villain 1 UTG min raised to 10 by villain 2 2 callers into me
Pot 41 ten to call open better still to speak

Action and why

Ste05

Hand 1 - You're getting about 5:1 against a donk, you have an overpair and an up and down. Call, if he had JQ take it to the BB thread.

Hand 2 - Don't like the Re-Raise PF here with AK. You're getting about 1.7:1 - If you think your A or K are live outs then call, if not then meh, he sounds like an overly aggressive donk and for all you know you might still be ahead now?? If he had AA, KK, JJ or 66 then it's just about a marginal fold, QQ, it's a call and nearly everything else he could have is probably a call.
Would he have 4-Bet PF with AA or KK?

Hand 3 - Fold: One of them has a flush, and at least one other should have a higher set, or at least JT, therefore you're probably drawing to 1 out.

fuzzbox

I really think you should spend a little more time describing positions and stack sizes and be a little more coherent in your action description.

For example:
Pot 6
I check 4 limpers in bb with 22
flop jt2 all hearts opened for 5 by villain 1 min raised to 10 by villain 2 2 callers into me
Pot 41 ten to call open better still to speak

What the hell does this mean?
Did you check the flop? Did you bet the flop? Did you minraise? what exactly is going on ?


However be that as it may:

Hand 1 - call you have great odds, might have the best hand, and almost certainly have a reasonable number of outs if you dont, but I much prefer a reraise preflop, failing that I like a flop raise, and failing that, if you do raise the turn, then just shove as the pot is plenty big.

Hand 2 - call, only JJ/66/22 and AA have you in any serious trouble, and the pot is laying you ~2:1 in any case, which makes this a super-easy call.

Hand 3 - I dont know what happened and by whom, so if you want to clarify this a little, I can comment .

Bandana boy

fuzzbox wrote:

I really think you should spend a little more time describing positions and stack sizes and be a little more coherent in your action description.

For example:
Pot 6
I check 4 limpers in bb with 22
flop jt2 all hearts opened for 5 by villain 1 min raised to 10 by villain 2 2 callers into me
Pot 41 ten to call open better still to speak

What the hell does this mean?
Did you check the flop? Did you bet the flop? Did you minraise? what exactly is going on ?


However be that as it may:

Hand 1 - call you have great odds, might have the best hand, and almost certainly have a reasonable number of outs if you dont, but I much prefer a reraise preflop, failing that I like a flop raise, and failing that, if you do raise the turn, then just shove as the pot is plenty big.

Hand 2 - call, only JJ/66/22 and AA have you in any serious trouble, and the pot is laying you ~2:1 in any case, which makes this a super-easy call.

Hand 3 - I dont know what happened and by whom, so if you want to clarify this a little, I can comment .

Post edited hopefully clearer
If Villain in hand 2 had AA or KK here i am 99.9% sure he would have repopped

Hectorjelly

1 easy call (I would just call turn)
2 easy call
3 easy call

Gholimoli

hand one:
calling PF is fine.raising is fine.
i would deffo raise the flop here and i donno why you didnt.
failing to raise the flop i hate raising the turn here and again i donno why you did when the draw gets there.
as played call.

hand 2:
call.

hand 3:
no idea what is going on.
but if you didnt lead the flop i would have lead that flop.

gosplan

1: Based on previous you could expect to see two pair. 10J would also be very possible. Do you not think Villian would have reraised the flop with JQ? With whats in the pot you've got to call.

2: Looks like Villian wants the 60 in the middle and doesn't like the board so he's pushing. AJ very possible as are queens. Whatever you put him on you can expect to have all the clubs plus either 3 kings or 3 aces as outs.(unless you put him on trips which i doubt). I call this but not sure of the maths.
My feeling is that surely villian would have pushed PF with aces or kings.

3: Eh, don't really understand that one either. ALL IN PF with the ducks though!!!!

Ste05

OK, here's what I think happened in Hand 3 -

Hero's in the BB with 22. All 6 players see a limped flop of Jh, Th, 2h
(Pot $6)
SB checks, as does our Hero, UTG (Stack $85) bets $5, UTG+1 (Stack $135) min-raises to 10, someone (Stack $50) calls, then another person calls (Stack $60), someone else folds (somewhere after the min raise possibly the SB??) and it's back to us.

Our Hero??

Bandana boy

Ste05 wrote:

OK, here's what I think happened in Hand 3 -

Hero's in the BB with 22. All 6 players see a limped flop of Jh, Th, 2h
(Pot $6)
SB checks, as does our Hero, UTG (Stack $85) bets $5, UTG+1 (Stack $135) min-raises to 10, someone (Stack $50) calls, then another person calls (Stack $60), someone else folds (somewhere after the min raise possibly the SB??) and it's back to us.

Our Hero??

that would be right and very nicely put

gocall01

1 - Call, but waiting for the surprise!
2 - Call, all day every day (looks like any A, K or Club will do).
3 - I would call here and re-evaluate on the turn.
You may be up against a flush already but I reckon if the board pairs you are good.

Hmmm, having read what I said on hand 3 here I think I could easily fold on the turn if the board pairs are the 4th heart comes... Confusing myself!

Bandana boy

Okay results time

Hand 1
I called he had set of 5s

Hand 2
I called he had TT

Hand 3
I couldnt belive it was me doing it as I folded my set
and then thought great move as Villain 1 pushed and villain 2 called rest folded
When V1 turned over Khjc and v2 Ah Ts I was not as happy

fuzzbox

I would not have folded 22 !!!

Ur playing .5/1 ..... them folks is crazy
... perhaps even Krazy

Bandana boy

fuzzbox wrote:

I would not have folded 22 !!!

Ur playing .5/1 ..... them folks is crazy
... perhaps even Krazy

I guess my thinking was along the lines of Ste's that i could be drawing very thin
I had put nothing into the pot yet and it was devolping into a monster oop to a large field with a marginal enough holding

that said at least 4 of the players where large donkeys

Ste05

In Hand 3, I'd have to have seen pretty mad play by everyone to call with 22 there.

I fully agree with the whole philosophy of "if you never fold a set you're not making that much of a mistake" so sticking to that motto maybe a call would be OK.

But I still think this was a fold, a bet, a min-raise, 2 cold calls and personally I'm folding. It just happened to work out this time that it was one of the best case scenarios you could have been up against.

One thing though, I was just reading it again there, and I was wondering is the UTG raiser Villain 1 in this hand the same Villain as in Hand 1, and ditto with Villain 2 in hand 2??.

If so, then I might not have folded, as Villain 1 seemed to slow play big hands and obviously seems like a total donkey, Villain 2 seems to bet with gay abandon so hmmm... but I'd still be worried about the 2 cold calls...

Mneh, I still fold...

Bandana boy

Ste05 wrote:

One thing though, I was just reading it again there, and I was wondering is the UTG raiser Villain 1 in this hand the same Villain as in Hand 1, and ditto with Villain 2 in hand 2??.

That would be true

Silver-Tiger

In Hand 2 , when you called and he flipped ovet TT,

Did you spike your A , K or club???

RoundTower

1 and 2 very clear calls. 3 I would probably call in practice, maybe fold is best.

Bandana boy

Silver-Tiger wrote:

In Hand 2 , when you called and he flipped ovet TT,

Did you spike your A , K or club???

I suppose the real question is are we happy to be in the postion we are in against TT(i think so ) and 555(i think not) not wether i spiked or not

As it stands i Rivered straight against set and hit both a K on the turn and a flush on river against TT

Go me