Hand from Boards 200 game

eoghan104

Stacks - Me 12k Villain 8k

Blinds 150/300

I check my option in the big blind after an EP limper and the small blind completes. I have AJ.

Flop J 8 4 two clubs.

Villain in small blind bets out 675. I call and Ep calls.

Turn 3h

Villain bets 2k and i call Ep folds.

River 8d

Villain goes all in for 5k and i call.

How do you think this hand was played? any comments would be much appreciated thanks.

valor

No reads or tells?

eoghan104

valor wrote:

No reads or tells?

No the Villain is relativley new to the table and this is the first hand weve been in together.

Hitman Actual

I don't like raising AJ out of the blinds, but with only 2 players in, a raise could be good here. Flop call is ok, I guess. Maybe raise is better. Turn call is bad, River is horrible, imo.

eoghan104

lenny_leonard wrote:

I don't like raising AJ out of the blinds, but with only 2 players in, a raise could be good here. Flop call is ok, I guess. Maybe raise is better. Turn call is bad, River is horrible, imo.

why do u think the river and turn are so horrible lenny?

Hitman Actual

eoghan104 wrote:

why do u think the river and turn are so horrible lenny?

Well, do you really think he keeps firing at the pot with a hand that TPTK beats? If you put him on a three-barrel bluff, then excellent call, but I'd have to have one hell of a read to make it. (Was it BigCityBanker? He likes these moves! ).

I suppose the other side of the coin is, does he really keep betting at the pot with a hand that beats TPTK, or will he let you do the betting for him at some stage? So maybe it's not so bad at all, but still...

connie147

I think you should have raised the flop bet to find out how strong the villian was. He could have 2 pair or small set off the flop.If he calls your reraise, then your not putting anymore in the pot. Its a definate fold on the river though.

eoghan104

lenny_leonard wrote:

Well, do you really think he keeps firing at the pot with a hand that TPTK beats? If you put him on a three-barrel bluff, then excellent call, but I'd have to have one hell of a read to make it. (Was it BigCityBanker? He likes these moves! ).

I suppose the other side of the coin is, does he really keep betting at the pot with a hand that beats TPTK, or will he let you do the betting for him at some stage? So maybe it's not so bad at all, but still...

yeh i definatley believe that i should have raised him at some stage in the hand but maybe im just a bit of a calling station!!!:rolleyes:

sprocket1

what hand selection did yoou put him on?

cardshark202

Why the hell would you raise here? Are you happy to get it all in against this villain? If so, raise away, otherwise don't. Calling down here is fine if you know the villain's tendencies and whether he would bet something like KJ for value like this or fire three barrels on a draw or a complete bluff.

Bandara

dunno if I'd call him here, smacks of a set of eights big time, I hate risking everything on tptk after he's fired three bullets at you. Why not give him the credit and lay down?

StraddleFor6

Its a tough one on the turn, but it's a call on the river. Stinks of a busted draw. He knows you want to get to a showdown as cheaply as possible and is trying to take advantage of this. He has two clubs or 9 10 here more times than not.

eoghan104

I was actually the villain in this hand and i had T8. I got abuse for the rest of the night of the lad with AJ but i didnt think the abuse was justified to be honest.

I bet out on the flop to see where i was and with the two flat calls i thought there was every chance that they were on draws as it was quite a draw heavy board so decided to bet a non scary turn. When i was called on the turn i knew i was behind and was done with the hand until the 2nd 8 came. Obviously i got lucky but I think Dave overreacted a bit as I didnt think he had played the hand to perfection himself. I dunno what hand he could have put me on to call on the river except for KJ so i thought the abuse he was giving me was a bit harsh. (hilarious though to see him tilt so badly!!!)

Quote of the night was " I'm not a gentleman I've made ALL my money by not being a gentleman"...... classy.

DeadParrot

it was funny alright.......

cardshark202

just check-fold the flop.

Hectorjelly

Which dave was it? I would definitely raise that flop; this is a totally different scenario to the usual one posted about raising flops. Also the turn is bad.

eoghan104

Hectorjelly wrote:

Which dave was it? I would definitely raise that flop; this is a totally different scenario to the usual one posted about raising flops. Also the turn is bad.

Dave Masters..

BigCityBanker

lenny_leonard wrote:

(Was it BigCityBanker? He likes these moves! ).

Not I Sir.

Gholimoli

the flop should deffo have been raised.

there is a Str&Flush draw there.
your also vaulrable to over cards to J so its really stupid not to raise the flop there.
again the turn should have been raised for the same reason after the str and flush and the over card fails to hit.
Dave loves calling on multiple streets here and its a mistake.

eoghan104

Gholimoli wrote:

the flop should deffo have been raised.

there is a Str&Flush draw there.
your also vaulrable to over cards to J so its really stupid not to raise the flop there.
again the turn should have been raised for the same reason after the str and flush and the over card fails to hit.
Dave loves calling on multiple streets here and its a mistake.

I agree but how do u feel about the way i played the T8? I think the bet on the turn may have been a bit ropey after 2 calls on the flop?

Gholimoli

eoghan104 wrote:

I agree but how do u feel about the way i played the T8? I think the bet on the turn may have been a bit ropey after 2 calls on the flop?

You were committing suicide and you pulled on the rope so hard that it was ripped apart on the river

5starpool

It was your comment after he called your all in that got him Eoghan 'I think I got lucky on the river'. That is the bit that sent him over the edge I think.

eoghan104

5starpool wrote:

It was your comment after he called your all in that got him Eoghan 'I think I got lucky on the river'. That is the bit that sent him over the edge I think.

haha yeh that was probabley a bad choice of words but i dont believe that if i had of just said nothing he wouldnt have given me any abuse!!

eoghan104

Gholimoli wrote:

You were committing suicide and you pulled on the rope so hard that it was ripped apart on the river

not 100% sure what you mean here gholi do you think the flop and turn bet were bad?

5starpool

eoghan104 wrote:

haha yeh that was probabley a bad choice of words but i dont believe that if i had of just said nothing he wouldnt have given me any abuse!!

He did say on Saturday when I seen him that *maybe* it was a bit uncalled for, but that is Dave. He's not a bad lad really, just a tad forthright at times.

Why can't we all just get along!

DeadParrot

5starpool wrote:

It was your comment after he called your all in that got him Eoghan 'I think I got lucky on the river'. That is the bit that sent him over the edge I think.

I believe that was it alright.
Have you ever made a final table before, no?? didn't think so.

Classic

eoghan104

DeadParrot wrote:

I believe that was it alright.
Have you ever made a final table before, no?? didn't think so.

Classic

yeh that was good allright!!! i was doing my very best not to take the bait and get into a fight as he was just a bit pissed off im sure!!

eoghan104

yeh Dom im sure hes sound and i have no ill feeling towards him whatsoever! we all get pissed off and it was just a bit off craic!! it would take alot more than a bit of slagging to make me angry!!!

P.S well done on the result it was well overdue for you!!!

5starpool

I'd be lying if I said I was delighted with how it panned out, but it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, especially considering how I played for the first 2 1/2 hours.

eoghan104

5starpool wrote:

I'd be lying if I said I was delighted with how it panned out, but it's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, especially considering how I played for the first 2 1/2 hours.

well congrats anyway and get an auld report up coz im bored in work!

cardshark202

Hectorjelly wrote:

Which dave was it? I would definitely raise that flop; this is a totally different scenario to the usual one posted about raising flops. Also the turn is bad.

You mean AJ should be raising right?

sikes

i thought dave played the hand well. I personally would prob raise the turn.

This was in the first 2 hours so i was in a sane mood at the time. The call on the river was tough but he plays so much online thats its often a busted draw.

pppspecial

eoin has been at the table played maybe 4 orbits and has been fairly aggressive winning a few pots without showdowns. the hand has been played fine till we get the turn card at which i should have raised eoin. but felt his bet on the flop followed by a bet on the turn will give me a good indication to what hand he is holding and from the betting pattern it was either tpmk or flush draw which i dont think i can move him away from. 2 pair was out off the question as he woulda checked on flop and set no chance as he would raised pre flop with any pp. so flush draw or tp mk was the likelyhood off his hand. the reason for checking behind on turn is 1. knowing im not getting u off the flush draw and 2. you wont let ur tpmk down u have 2 much invested in the pot for u to let go. this was were ive made a big mistake. i know im winning this hand 8 out off 10 times. the river came the 8 which i didnt like but felt i still had 2 call as i had not put u on middle pair ... i felt u knew what u were doing thinking ur tpmk would be good and not a donkey betting mpmk. dom knew u and said u were ok at the ould game. right well anyhow i hate replying to these but feel it is needed this time as i do owe u an apology but sure thats the game thats on the tables off the tables i wouldnt hold a grudge.at the break i would go up to someone and shake there hand if i have tried to tilt someone as it is only a game....( had the 4 nations game on the next morning in the fitz so had to rush home to get some much needed kipola,).... well played eoin oh ur right i still woulda said something as i always do to try put u on tilt but it was the comment afterwards that sent me bannanas.

eoghan104

no need to apologise it was a bit of craic and made for a more interesting night!! No hard feelings.:cool:

5starpool

pppspecial wrote:

dom knew u and said u were ok at the ould game.

Hey, don't be blaming me for anything now........