New Airport Rules

Just The One

In light of the new EU aviation security regulations I was wondering what happens when you want a drink of water.

They say that you can buy items of more than 100ml after the security checks but they will be put in a tamper evident sealed bag. Does this mean that you cannot open the bag with the water in it.

If you do open it will you be allowed to bring the water on to the plane?

Will the cost of a bottle of water be an even bigger rip-off.

Bluetonic

Just The One wrote:

If you do open it will you be allowed to bring the water on to the plane?

No

Just The One wrote:

Will the cost of a bottle of water be an even bigger rip-off.

Yes

Karoma

Moved from AH.

kizzyr

Please forgive my stupidity in advance of asking this but is this the way its going to work now:
You go through security as before but if you have any liquids you must put them in a tamper proof clear plastic bag. No liquids of more than 100ml can will be allowed through. However once you are through security you can buy bottles of water etc but they will also be placed in these plastic bags. If you open the bag or water/ other drink you will not be allowed to take this on board with you.
Otherwise are things are they were before? I'm also confused re: hand baggage. I'm not talking about an overnight suitcase here but a handbag. Like most girls I carry lots of stuff in my bag, lipgloss, perfume, pen, purse, etec. Will I have to put all of this stuff into a plastic bag or will that be screened as before?

Bluetonic

All your answers here

http://www.dublinairport.com/at-airport/airport-security/EU_Liquids_Regulations.html

http://www.dublinairport.com/at-airport/airport-security/EU_Liquids_Regulations_FAQs.html

Noelie

these rules are a joke, they will put a lot of people off flying. they are basically making everyone check their bags into the hold, and now that we have to pay for that privilage the airlines will clean up.

They are also going to cause havok in the airports. just wait till the new bag sizes come in it will be even worse.

2funki4wheelz

Resealable bag - like a ziploc or something, not tamper proof. So you can drink your 100mls of water! (How thirst quenching)
The tamper evident bags are for the goods bought in the airport shops etc, they do this in JFK in New York. They're big heat sealed clear plastic bags with a warnin on them that you cannot open until in flight.

5starpool

To be honest I would rather take the 1/100,000 chance or whatever it is that the plane blows up. Overregualtion is frustrating and makes me very annoyed.

jor el

Why do these little bags have to be re-sealable? If you can open and close it at will then what's the point in sealing it at all? I just don't get that bit. Actually most of it makes no sense, you can't bring any liquids through security, other than 100ml bottles and no more than a few of these, but if you buy a bottle of water in the gift shop they'll seal it in a tamper proof bag so you can't open it till you're on the plane. But no one can bring (large) liquids past the security point so what are they worried about?

It's sensationalist hype along the lines of "we better do something so people know we're doing something, even though we're doing nothing".

The security features at airports before Sept 11th, 2001, were perfectly adequate. The reason everything fell apart in America was because there was practically no security on internal flights. You're more likely to be hit by a falling bus shelter than to be involved in a terrorist hijacking.

Anyway, with the world rapidly running out of fuel, we'll need to get used to not flying sooner or later.

kizzyr

Poor old Nostradamus despite all his visions into the future and predictions for the end of the world he never say it coming in the guise of fluids over 100mls, lip gloss, mascara and shoes eh:rolleyes:

Sarn

The other option is to put your water into several 100 ml containers before the security check, that way you can take close to a litre that way.

Edit: If they disagree with one beverage type in multiple containers then you could always have different types of beverage in each one.

What about the poor environment with all of these tamper proof bags!

Bards

Imagine if they used the same logic with cars and crashes.. we'd all be driving foam covered cars at no more than 10km/h

If a terrorist wants to blow up a plane..no amount of security will stop it. so why bother.. it just makes travelling more awkward for everyone so in the end the Terrorist has achieved his/her aims

Garibaldi

Noelie wrote:

these rules are a joke, they will put a lot of people off flying.

The human body is a liquid container with a volume greater than 100ml. Therefore, you will be confiscated from yourself, every Western airline will collapse, and MO'L will launch a hostile takeover bid for Irish Ferries. You mark my words.

probe

These measures are just another example of EU bureaucracy gone mad! The idea that someone could smuggle a "liquid bomb" on board an aircraft and use it is a "fantasy" according to the following (British) report:

November 03, 2006 -- THE "liquid bomb" threat that disrupted this country's air traffic was a piece of Hollywood fantasy.

That is the verdict of renowned American terrorist expert Marvin Cetron, who arrives here this weekend to talk to travel and tourism leaders at World Travel Market, where 100 ministers and 202 nations will be present at ExCeL London.


AS Britain prepares to relax the emergency hand luggage regulations that disrupted and cost the airline industry a near 30 per cent drop in passenger traffic, Cetron says:


"It turns out that the liquid explosives central to the tale are largely a Hollywood fantasy.


"They require hours to prepare even after being smuggled on board, plus a lot of ice to keep them cool during the process", said Cetron, a security advisor to the Pentagon.


"To remain undetected, they also need passengers and a flight crew with a defective sense of smell. And they are likely to blow up in mid-preparation with just enough force to kill the would-be chemist, but no one else.


"British authorities, apparently prompted by Washington, trumpeted their arrest of some two-dozen plotters who, it is said, planned to blow up airliners flying from Britain to the United States in August.


"On closer examination, there probably was less to the scheme than met the eye.


"The plot was more farcical than fearsome. But it triggered a new round of airport security precautions, shrank airline profits for a few weeks, and brought the risk of terrorism back to public awareness.


"It was a grim reminder that they could face worse things than high oil prices.


"Notwithstanding the gang that couldn't bomb straight, terrorism does remain a serious risk."

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=180095

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Alun

Indeed ... there's a more in-depth debunking of the whole scenario here ...
http://www.theregister.com/2006/08/17/flying_toilet_terror_labs/

whiskeyman

So, why were these restrictions suddenly brought in for 6th Nov?
My hunch is to correspond with the death sentance of Saddam.
Surely the West are expecting a greater backlash both in Iraq and possibly at home... or at least they want the public to feel the fear (once again...).

corktina

i think u r at elast partially right whiskeyman......:mad:

Lord Nikon

I may have missed something, but does this mean i can't bring Duty-Free spirits onto the flight?

A Dub in Glasgo

This is more to do with bringing liquids through the security gates. Buying all the stuff airside will still be allowed.

I have being flying with worse/similar restrictions since August and it is a load of nonsense. The only plus side is it puts people off flying with all the added delay and hassle.

Sarsfield

I've been dealing with the ludicrous UK restrictions recently too. No problem buying large bottles of highly flamable alcohol airside :rolleyes:

Mucco

40% alcohol is not highly flammable. Broken glass can be nasty though.

Sarsfield wrote:

I've been dealing with the ludicrous UK restrictions recently too. No problem buying large bottles of highly flamable alcohol airside :rolleyes:

Random

The whole system really is a joke. Need one say more.