Got my first attempted fraud.. I feel so special!

JohnCleary

It's finally happened! After 9 years of using the internet I finally got my first 419. For a mini moto (long sold) I was asking for 200euro. What amazed me was he said his draft was for 7000euro! :eek:

Typical, "I send you 7000euro, you refund me 6800euro".. I told him the price has gone from 200euro to 1500euro ... Let's see if he replies

Below is the e-mail;

Goodday I saw your advert and am intrested in buying you item( Mini moto ) which you have listed I have a client who own me the amount of 7000euro and he will make the payment to you via a certified Bank darft. as soon as you recieve it you will take yor money and send the balance to my accountant who will send the shipper agent to pick up the item from you and prepare it for shipping.

Here are the details i will need shortly to make payment to you .

Full name:.............................
Contact address:..........................
Postal Address:.......................
Postal Code:.......................
phone number:.....................
Country;..........................

I await your deatils shortly.and please call me so that we can conclude on phone ok
Regards.....Victor
+447011135833.

Faith

Victor, you bastard! Stop trying to scam people on the internet!

JohnCleary

Faith wrote:

Victor, you bastard! Stop trying to scam people on the internet!

More like "Victor you bastard, learn some fcuking english" :rolleyes:

kittenkiller

Love it!

What you gonna do about it besides wait patiently?
I couldn't do that, I have the patience of a 4 year old child when it comes to things like that.

JohnCleary

kittenkiller wrote:

Love it!

What you gonna do about it besides wait patiently?
I couldn't do that, I have the patience of a 4 year old child when it comes to things like that.

Sent him an e-mail telling him the price was now 1500euro... If I get a reply i'll let him send me a draft, scan it for all of you to see and then report it to yahoo etc..

Tarakiwa

Mmmmmm - Victors offer sounds tempting!

Maybe you should go for it!

bluto63

I've never gotten one of those e-mails

Archeron

Aww, well done. Its nice when you get your first proper scam, it means that internet criminals love you.

I got my first dodgy bank machine scam a few weeks back (camera hidden in the frame of the machine) and I really did get a warm glowing warming glow. Finally, I am important enough to be scammed.

(I'll offer you €1900 for the phone by the way, but only if you can give me change for a 2.4 million indian rupee cheque made out to "Sultan Ofswing" Its genuine, I swear, the sultan is my brothers coworkers cousin)

Sam Vimes

never got that one but i got the one about nigerian royalty that can't spell nigerian or royalty

Feral Mutant

I haven't got one of those for a while (that I know of). At the time, I assumed it was a phishing thing and that replying would get more ads sent to me, it never occurred to me to toy with them. Now that it has, the majority of my spam is ads for "free" electronics that links to sites that have nothing to do with that. It's possible that there's a few 419s in my trash but I can't be bothered going through all tht stuff to find them.

TerrorFirmer

Commander Vimes wrote:

never got that one but i got the one about nigerian royalty that can't spell nigerian or royalty

The poor guys father was assassinated on the Ivory Coast for god sake, show some empathy

Ruu_Old

Only your first? Lucky you.

Archeron

HavoK wrote:

The poor guys father was assassinated on the Ivory Coast for god sake, show some empathy

Not only that, but he was assassinated TO DEATH!!

phantom_lord

I feel all left out

Hail 2 Da Chimp

I've started getting LOADS of them in my gmail account... get about 4 a day, The best ones are when you get the same one from different email addresses yet claiming to be the same person.

shane86

tbh Ive never received one and ive been online since 2000, you only get them if you are stupid enough to put your email address up to register for any type of service. I always use my "crapmail" address, an email account i specifically have to sign up for things I know will spam the bollix off me.

Gordon

I'd just waste his time. Accept the dodgy cheque/bank draft and delay and delay him by giving strange and comical excuses. And then post them here!

JohnCleary

Gordon wrote:

I'd just waste his time. Accept the dodgy cheque/bank draft and delay and delay him by giving strange and comical excuses. And then post them here!

That's the plan

phantom_lord

Gordon wrote:

I'd just waste his time. Accept the dodgy cheque/bank draft and delay and delay him by giving strange and comical excuses. And then post them here!

Anyone see the guy in the paper who got these guys to send him photos holding ridiculous written signs so he would believe who they were?

he got one guy to pose with a loaf of bread in his head holding a fish! I think he has a website with a full gallery of them somewhere.

Lenny

anyoen give the number a ring there?

takola

My friend had someone try this! He sent her a cheque for 2000 euros. She brought it to the bank, explained to the girl that she didn't know if it was real or fake and cashed it into her account. Was told that if it went in within 4 days it was real, and if it didn't it wasn't. She checked the bank 3 days later and low and behold there's 4000 euro in it! She was delighted, Just coming up to Christmas.

She went on a shopping spree and a couple of days later she got an email from the guy saying his secretary sent her too much and it was only meant to be for 400 euro, Could she please send back the other 1,600. She ignored it.

Then she got a call from the bank manager saying that they'd made a mistake and the cheque had actually been fake. They told her she'd have to pay it back. She told them, they'd made the mistake and that she couldn't afford to pay it back. And she got away with it because they'd made the mistake!

byte

This website has plenty of 419 exchanges. Some quite amusing!

iFight

Some of those are really good alright

RoundyMooney

takola wrote:

She told them, they'd made the mistake and that she couldn't afford to pay it back. And she got away with it because they'd made the mistake!

Absolute! Baloney!

Banks do not refund funds drawn on counterfeit cheques.

Ever.

Funds may be lodged, blah blah blah, but if you spend, the bank *will* come after you for the deficit.

People, don't listen to this blatant misinformation and get any silly ideas.

Also, I love the idea of you guys playing around with these little parasites-but play safe ok? No personal details, and anonymous email accounts only. Gmail seems to get their heads spinning for some reason.

Above all, don't string them along on foot of a legitimately placed ad. These guys are hardly rocket scientists, but none of us are anonymous as we might think.

Victor

Faith wrote:

Victor, you bastard! Stop trying to scam people on the internet!

I'm relying on the Shaggy Defence.

BTW, be careful phoning that number, (a) its a "Find me anywhere" number where you will easily pay 1-2 euros per minute (b) he might have caller ID.

Jack B. Badd

takola wrote:

My friend had someone try this! He sent her a cheque for 2000 euros. She brought it to the bank, explained to the girl that she didn't know if it was real or fake and cashed it into her account. Was told that if it went in within 4 days it was real, and if it didn't it wasn't. She checked the bank 3 days later and low and behold there's 4000 euro in it! She was delighted, Just coming up to Christmas.

She went on a shopping spree and a couple of days later she got an email from the guy saying his secretary sent her too much and it was only meant to be for 400 euro, Could she please send back the other 1,600. She ignored it.

Then she got a call from the bank manager saying that they'd made a mistake and the cheque had actually been fake. They told her she'd have to pay it back. She told them, they'd made the mistake and that she couldn't afford to pay it back. And she got away with it because they'd made the mistake!

Yeah, your mate sounds like a smart one, alright :rolleyes:

JohnCleary

Victor wrote:

I'm relying on the Shaggy Defence.

BTW, be careful phoning that number, (a) its a "Find me anywhere" number where you will easily pay 1-2 euros per minute (b) he might have caller ID.

'Find me anywhere'?

JohnCleary

I got a reply from him. He said that the price is fine, eventhough im asking 1500euro for something worth about 200euro :rolleyes:

Anyhow, here is the reply I gave him:

Victor,
Can you make the bank draft out in my dog's name? You see, the Fraud Dept. of the Police are currently doing an audit on me and I am worried they might try and charge me lots of tax or put me in jail. I set up an off-shore account in my dog's name which is safe.

Can you do this for me Victor? I am trusting that you are not the police. Are you sure you are happy to pay 1500euro for a Minimoto? What will you be using it for? Where are you located? Where will I be shipping to mini-moto to?

kittenkiller

Deadly!
Keep us updated.

jimmycrackcorm

I've just started bating a good old 419'er. got his Pasport copy and now he is looking for mine. I'm looking for a passport JPG to send him. God bless him.

I think I'll send him a picture of the passport cover heh heh.

Ruu_Old

Heres one from Iceland, close enough.

Tarakiwa

takola wrote:

Then she got a call from the bank manager saying that they'd made a mistake and the cheque had actually been fake. They told her she'd have to pay it back. She told them, they'd made the mistake and that she couldn't afford to pay it back. And she got away with it because they'd made the mistake!

100% boll0x!

RoundyMooney

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

I've just started bating a good old 419'er. got his Pasport copy and now he is looking for mine. I'm looking for a passport JPG to send him. God bless him.

I think I'll send him a picture of the passport cover heh heh.

Don't send him anything that looks remotely convincing. He'll only use it to con another vic.

Find a nice big 1 meg .dll file, copy it to another folder and rename it to a .jpg

Result: Mr. Muguman brings down his cafe's crappy little 56k line for days

RoundyMooney

JohnCleary wrote:

I got a reply from him. He said that the price is fine, eventhough im asking 1500euro for something worth about 200euro :rolleyes:

Anyhow, here is the reply I gave him:
<snip>

Roundy wrote:

Also, I love the idea of you guys playing around with these little parasites-but play safe ok? No personal details, and anonymous email accounts only. Gmail seems to get their heads spinning for some reason.

I hope you read the above...

JohnCleary

RoundyMooney wrote:

I hope you read the above...

If you're talking to me, any details I have given him are fake. The e-mail address he's sending to is my 'crapmail' account. I just don't know how to get his 'draft' to me without giving him a real postal address? Anyone got any ideas?

Victor

JohnCleary wrote:

'Find me anywhere'?

Like call forwarding, but done from the receiving phone instead of the forwarding phone. I think.

_blank_

JohnCleary wrote:

Anyone got any ideas?

PO Box.

Work?

Neighbour

Splinter

the local supervalu??

Black Swan

You mean to say you have not yet received an email from guy in an African country saying that he is trying to move millions of dollars out and needs your assistance for a few million? Oh, and you are to provide him with a bank account number, etc., etc.?

TerrorFirmer

Funny enough I just got this PM

Someone just contacted me this morning about this same product,do you accept (x€) for the buy it now?if so i will be very glad to make the payment via moneygram.com,and i will need your first and second name street address,city,state,country,zipcode,you can also join me on my yahoo messenger x@yahoo.com

Ri_Nollaig

phantom_lord wrote:

Anyone see the guy in the paper who got these guys to send him photos holding ridiculous written signs so he would believe who they were?

he got one guy to pose with a loaf of bread in his head holding a fish! I think he has a website with a full gallery of them somewhere.

i believe thats this one.

Big Nelly

takola wrote:

My friend had someone try this! He sent her a cheque for 2000 euros. She brought it to the bank, explained to the girl that she didn't know if it was real or fake and cashed it into her account. Was told that if it went in within 4 days it was real, and if it didn't it wasn't. She checked the bank 3 days later and low and behold there's 4000 euro in it! She was delighted, Just coming up to Christmas.

She went on a shopping spree and a couple of days later she got an email from the guy saying his secretary sent her too much and it was only meant to be for 400 euro, Could she please send back the other 1,600. She ignored it.

Then she got a call from the bank manager saying that they'd made a mistake and the cheque had actually been fake. They told her she'd have to pay it back. She told them, they'd made the mistake and that she couldn't afford to pay it back. And she got away with it because they'd made the mistake!

As mentioned above this is 100% the biggest pile of steaming poo

bugs90

How about you really mess with him - this is the famous and hilarious ebay powerbook scam. well worth a read:D http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

petes

How gullible is that guy to put a loaf of bread on his head?

JohnCleary

bugs90 wrote:

How about you really mess with him - this is the famous and hilarious ebay powerbook scam. well worth a read:D http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

Read that before its brilliant

RoundyMooney

petes wrote:

How gullible is that guy to put a loaf of bread on his head?

How about catching them for tens of thousands of dollars in shipping fees while sending them "embellished" junked domestic appliances?

Baiting them into smearing a deep heat type concoction into their nether regions, and sending photographic proof?

That's only the beginning. This place has all the above. Not as busy a site as 419eater, but the baits are more ambitious.

Juiceman

bugs90 wrote:

How about you really mess with him - this is the famous and hilarious ebay powerbook scam. well worth a read:D http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

Ha this scam is legendary. I remember when i came accrossit first, i laughed solid for 20 minutes!

SimpleSam06

419 scams are named after the nigerian criminal code 419, advance fee fraud, and are more of a "my uncle the king has lots of cash so help me out, man". What you are dealing with is a different level of scammer, NOT 419, escrow fraud or something, I forget the proper name for it, I can look up the exact financial mechanics behind it if anyone is interested.

I should say, seriously, don't mess with these lads. 419ers are almost uniformly based out of Nigeria, so you can mess with them to a certain level. These other lads could be anywhere, and typically have links to organised crime syndicates in Eastern Europe or even Africa, again, so its not unpossible that they can physically find you.

My advice to you would be to break off all contact and report it to the Guards and the bank, in that order.