Something to disturb me ?

c - 13

Ok so first of all I know that one of these threads comes up around once every month or so, so apologies in advance.

Basically I was thinking the other day that in my teen to adult life I have never seen a film that has really disturbed or scared the crap out of me. The only ones that had these effect on me were the horror films that I shouldnt have watched as a child.

So basically I was wondering if the good people of these boards could recommend something that should disturb me ?

Just a few other points -
[1]Gore doesnt bother me at all. Anything ive seen gory had no effect at all Cannibal holocaust

(I did feel sorry for the turtle though, does that count ?) and the rape scenes were a little uncomfortable, I guess thats just cause no one really wants to watch someone getting raped though.

, Guinea pig etc.
[2]I dont find those "jump-out-and-make-you-jump" style fims scary either as you can usually see it coming miles off.

Any recomendations will be watched (provided I can get my hands on them). Thanks Lads(and ladies).

TerrorFirmer

I find the only films that have ever truly disturbed me as you describe were films like the Grudge, or the Ring..I find them scary because of the supernatural element and the storylines/visuals behind then as opposed to the shock scenes, mind.

Its a good question though, and it's great to find a movie that actually leaves you feeling creeped out long after you've actually watched it.

Have you ever seen feed? Its a love it or hate it movie. Not strictly a "horror", but it is a very disturbing movie nonetheless with many horrific elements. Unfortunately nothing in the traditional horror vein springs to mind. I love horror movies but aside from those two that I mentioned, I haven't really found a horror movie scary since, as you say, the days of watching Freddy as a child....:D

c - 13

I saw the grudge and the ring (Both american and japanese versions)

Liked the jap version of the grudge thought the english version was much.
Liked both versions of the ring but thought jap version was better.

Both are good films but not disturbing, although that could be because I knew what was going to happen (to an extent) in them ie - TV bit in the ring should have been terrifying.

I havent seen feed, will look into that one now, thanks Havok. Any other suggestions anyone ?

Tusky

Try Audition maybe ? Watch it on your own, films are always much scarier on your own.

The ending to Oldboy is quite disturbing also..wouldnt call it scary though.

c - 13

Never saw audition. Will look into that too.

The end of oldboy was disturbing in a way I guess, primarily because it was just so "Wrong".

TerrorFirmer

I think personally going into "disturbing" we are totally branching out from the horror genre.

I suppose within the horror genre Saw is fairly disturbing - not scary, even visually, not unbearable or anything, but the mere thought of something like that happening to you, or indeed, anyone....kinda disturbing!

Most disturbing scene I've ever seen? The Fire Extinguisher scene in Irreversible. That. was. just. nasty.

Karl Hungus

A Tale Of Two Sisters was probably one of the only films that has really scared the **** out of me. I'd also second Tusky's recommendation of Audition. The Eye is another good one, really scared me.

An all time favourite of mine is Blue Velvet. Just see the film, it's not a Horror, but it's a masterpiece.

c - 13

Thanks for the replies all.
Karl - Is this the correct eye film, was ordering it a week ago but thought the eye was a much older film and that it was the wrong one ?

Thought a tale of two sisters looked good, will look into that one too.

Karl Hungus

c - 13 wrote:

Thanks for the replies all.
Karl - Is this the correct eye film, was ordering it a week ago but thought the eye was a much older film and that it was the wrong one ?

Thought a tale of two sisters looked good, will look into that one too.

That's the correct film.

trendkill

I have been in the same boat as yourself for 10 years now. Something truly horrifying... Tale of Two sisters.. nah... the original grudge....sort of.... but for people like you and I...... it is branching out from the horror..... you have to take that lonely road down to the Psychologically disturbing.... something that goes against every single last one of the morals you as a human being stand for. Four years ago i found out which movie it was for me. In college in WIT, sitting down with the boys, smoking... and they decided to watch A Clockwork Orange. I had never seen it before........

"Head Wreck"

I will not disagree that its a masterpiece, but for me.....no way in hell will i ever watch it again... alot of the stuff was close to home.... and stood against all of my morals....... I'd probably have to slit my wrist if i had to watch all of it again...came close 2 years ago in film College... thank christ i only had to watch the last 15 minutes then.....

Find something that you stand for.... and then find something that goes aghainst all of your beliefs... like irreversible.....

lodgepole

Funny Games is the film for you.

c - 13

Trendkill
Thanks will try that, unfortunatly it might take me a while to find a film that does just that. Good idea though.

Lodgepole
Certainly sounds disturbing, souunds like what i'm after, and after reading the following plot summary I think this one has gone straight to the top of the list.

Plot Summary for
Funny Games (1997)

Two well educated young men, which call each other Paul and Peter amongst other names, approach a family on vacation. They are, apparently, friends of the neighbours, and at the beginning their real intentions are not known. But soon the family will be imprisoned and tortured in his own house, in a very violent way, which the viewers are forced mostly to imagine and to share a certain complicity with the criminals. It might be some kind of game with the lives of husband, wife, son and dog. Why are they doing it?

Karl
Thanks for that. For some reason I thought that film was much older than that.

NunianVonFuch

How about The Descent? Switchblade Romance? Problem might be you're not letting yourself get involved in the movies, distancing yourself as you expect to be terrified/disturbed. Predicting jumps doesn't help either. I find best thing to do is have a drink before a scary film as you relax more
and your brain doesn't function
good, no see scares come.

Raekwon

If you think Irréversible is disturbing then you should see the rape scene in another French movie called Baise Moi. I had to turn away from the screen it was that graphic

Tusky

I've got it! Check out 'Society'.

Very disturbing!

TerrorFirmer

Raekwon wrote:

If you think Irréversible is disturbing then you should see the rape scene in another French movie called Baise Moi. I had to turn away from the screen it was that graphic

Serious? What a crap movie. Yes, it was graphic, but that film was nothing short of a handful of crap and cheap scenes wrapped around a load of exploitive porn. Disturbing is what i'd use to describe that it was ever released outside of the x-rated section of video stores.

Tusky, that looks interesting! Never heard of it! Actually, that just reminded me, there were a few scenes in "Naked Lunch" that were a tad disturbing. Strange film, that.

lodgepole

Society is a great film, it's best to watch it completely blind though... Makes the shocks even better. I remember watching it late one night on BBC2 and being freaked out. It's the best horror with a Baywatch star in it bar none, and i'm including Hasselhoff's Witchcraft in that.

Watch none of Brian Yuzna's recent directorial or production efforts though...

Raekwon

HavoK wrote:

Serious? What a crap movie

I never said that Baise Moi was a good movie I just said that the rape scene is probably the most disturbing ever to be put on film (out side of snuff of course). The thread is called 'Something to disturb me?' and that scene is very disturbing. (I would even go as far as to say that the scene would beat anything in *The Grudge or The Ring)

*IMO

trendkill

Ye've listed some good examples there..... another film that got me was Wes Cravens first offering of "The Last House on the Left"...... In the states they couldnt get an R-Rating for the movies without hacking off over 30 mins of footage. The R rating was supplied by the Negatives containing the Rating so they went off and robbed an R- Rated Negative and Printed to it... hence being able to release it. It was banned in a whole load of countries and I think recently again they banned it in Ireland and the U.K although its still on sale in Virgin or HMV. (at a very reduced price presumably to get rid of the stock)

Anway it disturbed me..... Craven goes for the whole balance of who is more evil or capable of being more evil... the victims or the bad people.

A good tip is try to put yourself in the state of mind of a movie at the same time it was released.... find the names of some familiar movies that were released in the same year...

The slogan for "last house" at the time was " keep repeating... its only a movie... its only a movie... its only a movie.."

TOdays society is numb to most things... so try and be objective as to the period the movie came from...

Check out Eisensteins "Battleship Potempkin".. you can find it here

http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/

Cant get banned as they are all downloadable and non-copyrighted, completely legal and there is some great movies there. Got banned from the film-boards.ie site for a similar thing... but this aint illegal....

Den_M

Try a film called Black Christmas. I found in quite disturbing and I'm not easily disturbed.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/

lodgepole

Last House on the Left is not banned here, nor did it have thirty minutes cut from it. It is however very graphic and very disturbing, although the quality of the filmmaking can take from that occasionally. Everytime they cut back to the bumbling cops all sense of dread is lifted. The version you can buy over here is missing some sequences which are available on the second disc in still frame form or as a link to the internet in full video form. I recomend getting the double disc, it has some interesting stuff on video nasties and the BBFC.

trendkill

Lodgepole wrote:

Last House on the Left is not banned here, nor did it have thirty minutes cut from it. .

this is what i said " another film that got me was Wes Cravens first offering of "The Last House on the Left"...... In the states they couldnt get an R-Rating for the movies without hacking off over 30 mins of footage. The R rating was supplied by the Negatives containing the Rating so they went off and robbed an R- Rated Negative and Printed to it... hence being able to release it."

Now if your read it correctly this time.... it explains the MPAA wanted to cut 30 minutes from it... But Craven Cheated and found an r-rated film negative to print to...hence avoiding cutting the movie...... and then released it without making the changes the mpaa wanted . Goddamn.. some people just dont want to read these days...

And what the hell do you mean the quality of the filmmaking can take away from it......with the bumbling cops.... its structure.... most cops are idiots

TerrorFirmer

Den_M wrote:

Try a film called Black Christmas. I found in quite disturbing and I'm not easily disturbed.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071222/

The remake is hitting our screens this christmas. It looks rather woeful.

fly747ie

s. Wall and the 666 dwarfs is pretty scary dunno where u can get it tho, will look around

lodgepole

trendkill wrote:

And what the hell do you mean the quality of the filmmaking can take away from it......with the bumbling cops.... its structure.... most cops are idiots

The filmmakers graduated from soft core porn and weren't terribly talented in the technicalities of film making. So while elements of the film are incredibly disturbing, notably the

abuse, rape and murder of the two girls

, other parts are downright ridiculous such as the awful David Hess music, the encounter with the chicken woman (who received top credit) and parts of the revenge. It's badly framed throughout and was poorly photographed. The whole thing is uneven because of how it jumps between savagery and slapstick. And no, it wasn't trying to say anything with this sharp contrast, it was just badly made. I still love the film, and appreciate it's history and influence but for a modern audience to be fully distubred by a film they have to be sucked in and too much of Last House on the Left doesn't do that.

It's a film ripe for a straight remake (as in not another interpretation of The Virgin Spring) just as Craven's second horror was. Which apparently is being made according the IMDBPro.

trendkill

But wasnt it the same crew he used in The Hills Have Eyes......

I cant remember what they shot it on....Super 16 i presume....
I thought it was his English Students that helped him shoot it..... oh well... learn something new every day i spose. You seem to be a big fan also so....respect....

Den_M

I was very dissapointed by Last House on the Left when I saw it a while back. The acting/script/camera work seemed very amateur. The upbeat soundtrack was a bit mystifying also. I heard one of the guys in the film did it?

c - 13

Well on this threads suggestion I rented "A tale of two sisters" last night.
Had a beer before to relax me.
Knew nothing about the film before I watched.
Even waited till aroung midnight so it would be nice and dark.
Cant say that it had the desired effect - it had some nice tense moments alright but wasnt scary really. (Also it took about an hour for anything to happen - a minor detail I know.)
Tonight ill probably watch "Funy Games". Ill let ye know how that goes.

Loobz

Poltergeist? Was thinkin of getting this on dvd - scared the bejebus outta me when I was a lad.

spooky donkey

probabally just make ya laugh now.

lodgepole

spooky donkey wrote:

probabally just make ya laugh now.

Scared the bollocks off me a couple of years back. Missed it in the IFI at Halloween. It still packs the scares in. Spielberg and Hooper, regardless of who had the most input, were an amazing team.