2 interesting hands

Imposter

2 hands where i'd like some input from a live 1/2 NL game:

Hand 1:
I have QQ in the SB. 6 limpers and the BB still to act. I raise to 20 and only the BB comes along for the ride.

Flop comes 488 rainbow. I bet 35, BB raises to 100! What do you do? I have about 160 (plus the 35) left. BB has me covered.

In most cases I fold this. Anyone i've discussed the hand with folds this.
BUT:
1. Can I really put him on an 8 (other than 88)? 44, AA or KK?
2. BB checked out of turn when i was playing with my chips wondering how much to raise.
3. BB also has come over bets of mine and bet at pots when i've shown weakness too often for my liking. He'd done it about 3 times in an hour or so. He's being seeing a lot of flops and betting well postflop but the cards that he's shown down while possibly enough to win the hands have not been overly strong.

So basically my opinion of the BB is that he is quite loose preflop but knows what he's doing postflop. I also think paired boards like this are often used by floaters to take down a pot!

I think this is a bit like the "playing against lags" thread. Here i am oop too which makes it difficult.

So do you push or fold here? If not when and how do you stand up to such a player from this position?

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Hand 2:
You've got AKs and there are 5 limpers to you and you are button. You raise to 12 and get 4 callers.

Flop comes AQx with 2 clubs (the ace wasn't a club). The BB bets 10. One other caller before me and I raise to 60. I'm pretty certain the BB has a flush draw and the other guy worries me. His play has been very passive and I want to see where I stand with this bet. I feel he could have an ace with a weaker kicker or he could be 'slowplaying' a bigger hand like 2 pair.

Flop is a blank and it's checked to me. I still know nothing about the guy that worries me and i've no reason to believe the flush chaser has anything else. I bet 100 which sets both of them all-in. Both call.

Flush chaser has flushdraw with A7 and other guy has AJ.

I think I played this hand correctly but I'm not comfortable about getting most (it would have been all if they had more money) of my stack in with just TPTK. Is this a hand where you've just got to trust your reads and get the money in or how else could it have been played? Opinions and thoughts please!

Gholimoli

hand one:

shove.

hand two:
fix your post as it does not make much sense but looks ok.

P.S in both hands raise more pre-flop.

bops

whatever Gholimoli says - do the exact opposite and you'll be just fine :rolleyes:

Ok ok

Hand 1: Push - If you're beat - tough luck
Hand 2: Played it fine imo

Bandana boy

Hand 1 it sounds like Villain has outplayed you on a couple of flops
if we believe his range for raising you does not include an 8 then push if he is pot committed if not call and let him go again on the turn and call
I dont believe you should be rasing more than 10 BBs here so 20 was fine.

Hand 2
If there actual holdings are a good indicator of how they have been playing all session i go broke with AK on a A flop against these gents
As a rule i would play this slower A7 fd should push your re-raise on the flop giving you a very tough call

ianmc38

Push hand 1. Hand 2 looks fine.