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? for the cash game players re hourly rate

  • 27-10-2006 6:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭


    I'm just curious as to what a decent hourly rate cash games players expect at what levels of buy in.

    I'm just curious to compare it to what i make in stts per hour, much app


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    I think it depends so much on da level u play at.

    at the small no limit levels if u r accomplised player I think u should expect > 10 bb per 100.

    but then again if ur good enuf 2 do this u should b playing higher

    10 bb per 100 hands i think is very good for any medium to high level in either no limit hold'em or plo.

    4xbb in limit poker - I would say.

    i'm playing plo 2 much these days - i think in cash games the real money is in multi-tabling in hold'em though, as lots of sites in medium to high stakes u can multi-table em more ec than in plo as the game selections is far greater.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    thanks lucky i can guarantee at least $46 an hour playing 4 6pac £30 stts at a time including rakeback. Was just wondering how this stands in relation to what is being made at the ring tables. I suppose its similar to 10bb/100 on one $2$4 table. how long on adv would you say it takes to play 100 games on one table


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭Imposter


    If you are beating the game at Limit for more than 2BB's/100 (that's big bets so 4 big blinds) then you're doing well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    nicnicnic wrote:
    thanks lucky i can guarantee at least $46 an hour playing 4 6pac £30 stts at a time including rakeback. Was just wondering how this stands in relation to what is being made at the ring tables. I suppose its similar to 10bb/100 on one $2$4 table. how long on adv would you say it takes to play 100 games on one table

    Nic,

    Just wonderinghow you find the difference between the 9 tables and 6 tables. Do you feel theres more money to be won at the 6 tables and if so why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    dvdfan wrote:
    Nic,

    Just wonderinghow you find the difference between the 9 tables and 6 tables. Do you feel theres more money to be won at the 6 tables and if so why?
    hey dvd

    the payout structure in the sixpacs that i play is 75/25% therefore i consider being a good heads up player is where the juice is. There's definitely money to be made in these as for more money well i guess that's subjective to the individual, for me definitely as shorthanded I'm very aggressive which you have to be to win at these in the later stages. There's a lot of players in these who just don't get it that at times your stack dictates that you call with 42os or 94os. The more i play these I found that with 4,3 and 2 players left the cards don't really matter I'm just playing according to position and stack size. If you are a winner then another reason why you can win more is simply you can play more, ATM I four table and on average finish 7/8 an hour


    As for the difference with higher number stts, i haven't played that many of the 10/9 man but the dynamics are definitely different. six handed your just gonna have to play in more hands, your in the blinds 33% of the time when the game starts and this just increases as players go. Also I'd say generally there's more play heads up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    nicnicnic wrote:
    thanks lucky i can guarantee at least $46 an hour playing 4 6pac £30 stts at a time including rakeback. Was just wondering how this stands in relation to what is being made at the ring tables. I suppose its similar to 10bb/100 on one $2$4 table. how long on adv would you say it takes to play 100 games on one table

    That sounds like a decent enuf return from £30 stts, i think u can make more playing $2-$4 nl but then again it is a bigger game than £30 stts and u need a bigger br for it.

    As for how long it takes to play 100 hands on 1 table - it depends on whether it's shorthanded or not - i play both shorthanded and full ring but probably more shorthanded - deducing from my own stats it takes about 75 mins to play 100 hands on average - so prob slightly longer for full-ring maybe 90 - 100 mins and about 70 - 75 mins for shorthand, if u play plo it's a slower game so will take longer again to get to 100 hands- according to my data it's about 1hr 50 mins to get to 100 hands per table at plo (that's mostly full ring plo)

    anyway hope that helps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    luckylucky wrote:
    That sounds like a decent enuf return from £30 stts, i think u can make more playing $2-$4 nl but then again it is a bigger game than £30 stts and u need a bigger br for it.

    As for how long it takes to play 100 hands on 1 table - it depends on whether it's shorthanded or not - i play both shorthanded and full ring but probably more shorthanded - deducing from my own stats it takes about 75 mins to play 100 hands on average - so prob slightly longer for full-ring maybe 90 - 100 mins and about 70 - 75 mins for shorthand, if u play plo it's a slower game so will take longer again to get to 100 hands- according to my data it's about 1hr 50 mins to get to 100 hands per table at plo (that's mostly full ring plo)

    anyway hope that helps.

    much appreciated lucky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭dvdfan


    Thanks Nic,

    i play at $10 level and just recently moved up to $20 9 tables on PPP. I play tight and aggressive and i can play resonably well shorthanded but i never multitable as i like to get a feel for my opponents and keep notes for the latter stages when i do start to get involved more. Its not that hard to get to the last 3 which gets paid, even on one occassion i got diconnected after about 5 mins and the game was over by the time i got my connection back. Fortunately i still made 3rd without even playing a hand after been disconnected with an average chip stack, its like that in 9 tables alot of time, if you just sit back and wait for good hands while everyone else knocks eachother out. If i get good cards and a bit of luck i find myself well up in the chips and im usually in with a good chance of the last 2, if the cards go against me i could find myself going out on the bubble or just squeezing in. I rarely if ever go all in unless shortstacked so i rarely go out before 4-5th position although sometimes your forced to go all in to defend a good hand against some chancer.

    I have found that the $20 levels seems to be a bit tighter though.

    Where do you play nic, wouldnt mind watching for a while to see if i could pick up some pointers as i dont have anywhere as good a record as that, fair play to ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭nicnicnic


    dvdfan wrote:
    Thanks Nic,

    i play at $10 level and just recently moved up to $20 9 tables on PPP. I play tight and aggressive and i can play resonably well shorthanded but i never multitable as i like to get a feel for my opponents and keep notes for the latter stages when i do start to get involved more. Its not that hard to get to the last 3 which gets paid, even on one occassion i got diconnected after about 5 mins and the game was over by the time i got my connection back. Fortunately i still made 3rd without even playing a hand after been disconnected with an average chip stack, its like that in 9 tables alot of time, if you just sit back and wait for good hands while everyone else knocks eachother out. If i get good cards and a bit of luck i find myself well up in the chips and im usually in with a good chance of the last 2, if the cards go against me i could find myself going out on the bubble or just squeezing in. I rarely if ever go all in unless shortstacked so i rarely go out before 4-5th position although sometimes your forced to go all in to defend a good hand against some chancer.

    I have found that the $20 levels seems to be a bit tighter though.



    Where do you play nic, wouldnt mind watching for a while to see if i could pick up some pointers as i dont have anywhere as good a record as that, fair play to ya.


    alright dvd i play on the crypto network so willhill littlewoods ect although i don't know if you can learn anything from the way i play. I use a very basic strategy of tight early and pushing like a lunatic when the blinds hit level four+. Its a strategy that beats this game with a roi of 10to15% but its not really poker just a way to make steady cash without to much variance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Marq


    It depends on what people tip.


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