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arts block security

  • 27-10-2006 3:44pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1


    Hi what is like the prob with the arts block security?Everytime i go to the desk with a prob its like 'oh nothing we can do,dont know'.Then theres that old dear waddling around the place roaring and butting in when your trying to talk to someone,she comes charging out if your smoking outside the door.They all look like they've being there since the year zero!The cloakroom seems to shou an hour earlier than advertised and when u ask security can they get your bag out its 'oh u have to come back monday!'
    Wheres that gi joe guy who use to work there gone?I think he moves around the campus now,was the only one who would do anything for you,nice bod as well!
    SEONA


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  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just my opinion on some of these...
    seona wrote:
    Hi what is like the prob with the arts block security?Everytime i go to the desk with a prob its like 'oh nothing we can do,dont know'.Then theres that old dear waddling around the place roaring and butting in when your trying to talk to someone,she comes charging out if your smoking outside the door.

    Outside the door is still within a shelter, and I think it counts as part of their workspace so they just don't want a face full of smoke. I think it's fair enough.
    They all look like they've being there since the year zero!The cloakroom seems to shou an hour earlier than advertised and when u ask security can they get your bag out its 'oh u have to come back monday!'Wheres that gi joe guy who use to work there gone?I think he moves around the campus now,was the only one who would do anything for you,nice bod as well!
    SEONA

    Have no idea about the rest, although I'm happy that there's a cloakroom service available for free on campus (in the Hamilton & the Arts Building*)

    *Assistant Secretary gave out to me before for calling it 'The Arts Block' so if you're reading this Anne, apologies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    Smoking at the top of the ramp under the shelter and smoking outside the basement doors under the shelter is illegal and a huge pain in the hole for those of us who don't want to inhale your smoke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Hitchhiker's Guide to...


    Ibid wrote:
    Smoking at the top of the ramp under the shelter and smoking outside the basement doors under the shelter is illegal and a huge pain in the hole for those of us who don't want to inhale your smoke.

    are you sure that those specific examples are illegal? (not saying those places are not unsavory for workers and thus undesirable), but don't think they are illegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 793 ✭✭✭xeduCat


    It doesn't need to be illegal, as those areas are within the property of TCD and therefore if Trinity wishes to forbid smoking it has the power to do so. Of course Trinity is obliged to comply with all national laws relating to workplace smoking, as well as any education-specific ones, but I don't think there is anything to restrict them from going further.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    Yeah it definitely is illegal to smoke under the shelter. I had to interview the College Safety Officer for an article a couple of years ago when the smoking ban came in, and he said that although a lot of people didn't realise, it definitely did come under the ban. At the time there were a good few No Smoking signs on noticeboards around the place, but I don't think they're there anymore.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 511 ✭✭✭LiamD


    There's cigarette end disposal units on the wall under the shelter and there's a bin with an ash tray in front of the other door.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Tacitha


    The people at the front desk aren't security.
    Neither are they cloakroom attendants, any more than any of the various academics and ancillary staff who happen to work in the arts building. Why should they rescue your bags?
    What kind of problems are they not helping with? If the 'old dear' and 'year zero' comments are meant to mean that they're not up to their jobs, it might be an idea to form some idea of what their jobs are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭NADA


    Does anybody know why the doors of the arts buildung are locked earleir than the doors at the top of the ramp. It seems completely pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    It's in the Statutes. Board tried to repeal it about a decade ago and, despite student protests, a Working Group on Internal Door In/Out Times (IDIOT) was setup to investigate the procedure under the chair of the Senior Lecturer but answerable to the Registrar of Chambers and/or Campus Superintendent under the auspices of the Chief Steward. There were several noteworthy developments over several months but the IDIOT Working Group couldn't agree on an optimal time. In response to this several Departments organised an open lecture by the Registrar of UCD (as it was known at the time) on their open-door policy. Agreement came from that meeting a Substitute IDIOT should be put in place with the Senior Tutor chairing. By the time their suggestion was published - that all doors to the Arts Bloc (sorry Anne, "Arts Building") should be closed at 10pm - the Universities Act of 1997 was published and Board itself was put in limbo. Several years passed and Board finally got itself a proper structure by passing a private Bill through the Oireachtas - the Trinity College (Letters Patient) Act, 2000. It is said, however, that since that time the Senior Master Non-Regent and the government appointee to the Board have been conspiring for the last six years to keep the question of the Arts Bloc doors' closing-time off the agenda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭gymrabbit


    Please tell me you made that up Enda.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭Andrew 83


    I would guess it is so security can keep a closer eye on people coming in and out of the building after dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Ibid wrote:
    It's in the Statutes. Board tried to repeal it about a decade ago and, despite student protests, a Working Group on Internal Door In/Out Times (IDIOT) was setup to investigate the procedure under the chair of the Senior Lecturer but answerable to the Registrar of Chambers and/or Campus Superintendent under the auspices of the Chief Steward. There were several noteworthy developments over several months but the IDIOT Working Group couldn't agree on an optimal time. In response to this several Departments organised an open lecture by the Registrar of UCD (as it was known at the time) on their open-door policy. Agreement came from that meeting a Substitute IDIOT should be put in place with the Senior Tutor chairing. By the time their suggestion was published - that all doors to the Arts Bloc (sorry Anne, "Arts Building") should be closed at 10pm - the Universities Act of 1997 was published and Board itself was put in limbo. Several years passed and Board finally got itself a proper structure by passing a private Bill through the Oireachtas - the Trinity College (Letters Patient) Act, 2000. It is said, however, that since that time the Senior Master Non-Regent and the government appointee to the Board have been conspiring for the last six years to keep the question of the Arts Bloc doors' closing-time off the agenda.

    Not often I'd say it about one of your posts but brilliant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    All my posts are FTW to be honest ;).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Bartron Prime


    Yes, because internet slang makes everything cool. ;)

    Seriously though, it was hilarious. And scarily realistic. Bureaucracy frightens me.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Ibid wrote:
    All my posts are FTW to be honest ;).

    Erm, no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Bartron Prime


    Enda, I do believe that You Have Just Been Served. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭europerson


    Wow... Enda actually has a sense of humour! Very funny!


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