New Toyota Auris (Corolla replacement)

mickd

Exterior styling subtle differences from its predecessor

kluivert

Its a grown up Yaris and a young Avensus.

Auris - They even mixed the letters together

Vegeta

yup looks like an avensis rode a yaris and the result there is what you see.

interior looks like honda civic except not as nice.

Door pillars look huge and hard to see around.

Wonder how it will drive. Are they designing a new engine does anyone know or are they just lumping a current engine into it.

CJhaughey

I wonder what effect dropping the Corolla name will have?
Is it only Europe that is losing the Corolla or is it Global?

bazz26

Vegeta wrote:

yup looks like an avensis rode a yaris and the result there is what you see.

interior looks like honda civic except not as nice.

Door pillars look huge and hard to see around.

Wonder how it will drive. Are they designing a new engine does anyone know or are they just lumping a current engine into it.

The 1.4 litre VVTi engine with 97bhp from the current Corolla will be available in the Auris. There will also be a new 1.6 litre VVTi engine with 122bhp but not sure if this will be sold in Ireland. There will also be the current 1.4 litre 90bhp D4-D diesel available here.

In the UK there will also be a 2.0 litre 125bhp D4-D and 2.2 litre 150bhp & 180bhp D4-D diesels available. Very unlikely they will make it over here though.

jimmycrackcorm

CJhaughey wrote:

I wonder what effect dropping the Corolla name will have?
Is it only Europe that is losing the Corolla or is it Global?

It mystifies me how Toyota and Honda bring out radically different cars with the same name and claim as in Toyotas case that the car has been the top seller for the last 20 years or so. It would be like Ford naming every car from Escort to Mondeo to Focus as a new Cortina.

C_Breeze

That actually looks very nice indeed, aggresive yet understated .. looks better trhan the new civic R imo.

Oh and kluivert , its Avensis not Avensus

bazz26

CJhaughey wrote:

I wonder what effect dropping the Corolla name will have?
Is it only Europe that is losing the Corolla or is it Global?

The Auris is only replacing the Corolla 3 and 5 door hatchback in Europe. The saloon, estate and Verso will still carry the Corolla name in Europe.

D'Peoples Voice

bazz26 wrote:

The Auris is only replacing the Corolla 3 and 5 door hatchback in Europe. The saloon, estate and Verso will still carry the Corolla name in Europe.

Makes sense, the idea is consistent with the VW golf and the VW Bora/Jetta.
Does anyone know what toyota are like for diesel engines, are they as good as the german diesel engines?

bazz26

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

It mystifies me how Toyota and Honda bring out radically different cars with the same name and claim as in Toyotas case that the car has been the top seller for the last 20 years or so. It would be like Ford naming every car from Escort to Mondeo to Focus as a new Cortina.

VW gave us the Golf in one shape or another over the years, they slapped a boot on it, put a bit of extra chrome on it and called it the Jetta, Vento, Bora and now we are back with the Jetta again. These versions have had very limited success from a sales point of view and the resale value of a Jetta or Bora is not the same as a Golf because it isn't a Golf. The same can be said about Ford, they tried calling the saloon version of the Escort the Orion for a while and the Sierra saloon was known as the Saphire.

Familiar names such as Golf, Corolla, Civic, etc are well established branded names over the years and manufacturers while trying to attract a different type of customer risk loosing existing customers too. This is not just limited to the car industry.

bazz26

D'Peoples Voice wrote:

Makes sense, the idea is consistent with the VW golf and the VW Bora/Jetta.

It is risky changing a name like Corolla as it is well established around the world. VW have had a tough time over the years with the Vento/Bora/Jetta. All saloon versions of the Golf but never had the same customer loyalty as the Golf has.

Only time will tell if it was the right choice.

D'Peoples Voice wrote:

Does anyone know what toyota are like for diesel engines, are they as good as the german diesel engines?

Jap diesels over the years have always been ultra reliable and capable of huge mileage but they were never at the edge of technology as their market share was always low in Europe. They are now starting to catch up with their European rivals though. Honda's i-CDTI and Toyota's D4-D engines are now edging closer to the likes of the TDi or HDi units.

TempestSabre

The saloon market is decreasing and I assume this is reflection of that.

maidhc

bazz26 wrote:

Honda's i-CDTI and Toyota's D4-D engines are now edging closer to the likes of the TDi or HDi units.

The jap diesels are well up there, and if anything the TDI is now playing catch up.

TempestSabre

maidhc wrote:

The jap diesels are well up there, and if anything the TDI is now playing catch up.

Good idea for a new thread

mukki

its nothing new, peugeot are making those for years

http://ns31183.ovh.net/~broadcar/images/PEUGEOT307BLACK_7.jpg

or

http://images.carzone.ie/images/jjburke307Cho920.jpg

and they got the common rail engines

G Luxel

The corolla name is not disappearing world wide. The new one launched last week is called the Corolla Series and the saloon is called Axio and the estate called Fielder but only for the japanese market. The corolla saloon will not be sold in the UK.

maidhc

G Luxel wrote:

The corolla saloon will not be sold in the UK.

What about Ireland? We definitely prefer our saloons to the British!

TempestSabre

maidhc wrote:

What about Ireland? We definitely prefer our saloons to the British!

True I read somewhere (probably here somewhere) that the Primera saloon will not be offered in a lot of markets but its still a big seller in Ireland.

bazz26

maidhc wrote:

What about Ireland? We definitely prefer our saloons to the British!

The Corolla in general is a small seller in the UK despite being built there but the saloon is almost non existant over there due to the British love for hatchbacks.

The saloon along with the estate will continue to be sold in Ireland and continental Europe with the Corolla name. The Corolla saloon and estate have been built in Turkey since 2002, the Corolla hatchback has been built in Britain since about 1997.

zilog_jones

bazz26 wrote:

The Corolla in general is a small seller in the UK despite being built there but the saloon is almost non existant over there due to the British love for hatchbacks.

Yeah, in the 8 or so years I lived in England I don't think I ever saw a Corolla saloon - I barely saw Corollas in general. And the first Carina E I ever saw over there had an Irish reg on it

...the Corolla hatchback has been built in Britain since about 1997.

That was originally just the weird looking 5-door liftback made in the UK - the 3-door hatchback was still made in Japan AFAIK. Dunno what happened with the last generation though.

And the small hatchbacks always had slightly different names in Japan - from '84 till about '95 they were the Corolla FX, then I don't know (don't know if they even sold the one we got from '97-'02 over there), then it was the Corolla Runx in '01. The liftbacks we got from '87-'97 were derived from the Toyota Sprinter, which apparently was never sold in that form in Japan (they got them in saloons and estates). The saloon was always the real Corolla.

bazz26

zilog_jones wrote:

That was originally just the weird looking 5-door liftback made in the UK - the 3-door hatchback was still made in Japan AFAIK. Dunno what happened with the last generation though.

To my knowledge the 3dr was also built in Britain. UK built cars had a stationery bee sting type the radio aerial in the front centre of the roof and I think they had a digital odometer. The Japan built cars had a retractable aeriel on the A pillar and the odometer was analog.

I'm taking my anorak off now.

colm_mcm

Japanese chassis numbers would begin with "JT" and UK ones "SB"

knifey_spoonie

Dont forget NMTB for Turkey, as for the auris i seen it in paris tought it looked really nice like a much bigger/agressive yaris.The detail in thre interior was really nice.

colm_mcm

knife_fighter wrote:

Dont forget NMTB for Turkey,

They're talking about the previous generation Corolla

cwynnes

Hey ppls,

Anybody have any idea what the starting price of this car will be? presuming it'd be similar to the corolla starting price.....

colm_mcm

should be a little more expensive, I'd imagine it should have more standard equipment. 9 airbags for example, hopefully aircon will be standard too.

cwynnes

Im lookin forward to seein it on the road, im seriously considerin buyin it....thinkin ill buy it in 2008

Anyone see the virtual drive, the sites in Japanese but well worth a look

http://toyota.pod.tv/auris/

nah_biy!

maidhc wrote:

What about Ireland? We definitely prefer our saloons to the British!

I remember the previous version of the Civic was sold in estate form here, but not the UK

bazz26

nah_biy! wrote:

I remember the previous version of the Civic was sold in estate form here, but not the UK

You got that the wrong way round. The Civic estate was never officially sold here but was in the UK.

maidhc

bazz26 wrote:

You got that the wrong way round. The Civic estate was never officially sold here but was in the UK.

That would make sense. Irish people hate estates as much as they love saloons.

Lex Luthor

maidhc wrote:

That would make sense. Irish people hate estates as much as they love saloons.

I think that mindset is changing and people are starting to buy estates now more than ever before

G Luxel

zilog_jones wrote:

That was originally just the weird looking 5-door liftback made in the UK - the 3-door hatchback was still made in Japan AFAIK. Dunno what happened with the last generation though.

And the small hatchbacks always had slightly different names in Japan - from '84 till about '95 they were the Corolla FX, then I don't know (don't know if they even sold the one we got from '97-'02 over there), then it was the Corolla Runx in '01. The liftbacks we got from '87-'97 were derived from the Toyota Sprinter, which apparently was never sold in that form in Japan (they got them in saloons and estates). The saloon was always the real Corolla.

The weird looking 5 door hatchback was reported to be a 90s interpretation of the best selling Austin I300 from the 60s.
This and the 3 door version were never sold in Japan. There is a car that looks like the 3 door that you are thinking of but it is called the Corsa. It also looks like a Suzuki Baleno 3 door from the same period. The previous Corolla saloon was first sold in Japan in I995.
In addition to the later Corolla Runx, which earlier versions had the Corolla sedan headlights and grille as opposed to the later style that we have over here, there was another identical car to this hatchback called the Allex.

colm_mcm

Lex Luthor wrote:

I think that mindset is changing and people are starting to buy estates now more than ever before

People are actually moving away from estates to MPV's, only premium estates are becoming more popular.

G Luxel

The Auris is already on sale in Japan through the Netz Dealer network.

http://toyota.jp/auris