Kilkenny Vintage Guitars

Don1

Loooky here

Has anybody been down here yet? It's in Thomastown. Some nice stuff like this

Was just wondering if it was a quality establishment!

Doctor J

Hugely overpriced tbh, a mate of mine got the same Goldtop LP for €1300 from the states and this is about 2k over current market value

Don1

Thought as much. It's just it's so close and it'd be nice to have somewhere to go back to if something wasn't right. True though. Way too expensive for that bass.

Makes me wonder two things:
1) Did I get robbed with the price I payed for the G&L
2) Should I try get a nice stack of dough for my '77/'78 bass?!!!

Doctor J

G&L are pro quality instruments, if you paid less than a grand you didn't get shafted. Hold onto the 70's Fender, despite them being rightly renowned for not being very good, prices continue to spiral upwards as people with more money than sense value the age of an instrument over quality and playability. In a few years the price of 70's Fenders will be about the same as that 63 :rolleyes:

Don1

Cool. Emailed them for a quote on it for the laugh.

I did indeed get shafted on the G&L. ASAT Deluxe semi hollow and all that.
Effectively brand new I payed, *gasp* €1700 :( :mad:

Doctor J

Well you live and learn. You got the Fender cheap, yeah? So look at it as the universe re-aligning itself.

Don1

Aye *cough*€200*cough*! Bought it in Germany. Was abandonned in a pub for over a year. A guy I know took it home as it was in the way and annoying the pub owner. I saw it, wanted it, and only had that much cash left. I made a verbal agreement that if in the future I get mega money for it I'd throw him a few quid!

Doctor J

There ya go then. Karma and universal re-alignment in full swing

shanejunkin

Hi,

I was in KVG recently and play the strats that he has on display, here, here and here . The two 1988 strats were really, really nice, I couldn't say which was nicer. I'm just wondering where I would get a nicer strat for less than €1400? i've looked around and don't think that I can....

Also the sound off the '56 reissue was amazing and for €1900 seemed like good value, yet I can't afford that much.

Is the value in this place the fact that you can actually test out guitars rather than buying online and get shafted with a shoddy guitar?

Doctor J

You can pick up 80's American strats for as little as €500 at the moment (I know this because a friend of mine did so a couple of months ago).

€1400 is absurd.

Rigsby

I know there's a G&L strat for sale on "adverts". Might be worth a look.



http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=57116&cpage=1&perpage=15&cat=16#comment-374129

shanejunkin

Doctor J wrote: »

You can pick up 80's American strats for as little as €500 at the moment (I know this because a friend of mine did so a couple of months ago).

€1400 is absurd.

Really? For as little as €500? Can you advise where to look for such strats?

Doctor J

ebay - and not just a one-off either.

shanejunkin

But they tend to be all Japanese guitars on ebay for around the €6~800 mark?

I've searched for 1988, 89 and generally 80s american strats many times and they're just not for sale. Anyway, it's very hard to tell if they are in good condition on ebay.

Do you know of any decent international websites that sell old strats?

I reckon if you could get those two KVG for €1200 that you'd be doing well...?

Doctor J

I think he'd be doing well, you'd have been shafted.

There isn't a huge amount of difference between an 88 and a 98 and even up to a 08, there really isn't. The average going rate for a second hand US strat made in the last 20 years is about €700-750. If you want to pay €500 extra (almost double the price) just because one was made a few years before another pratically identical one, I just can't see the logic behind that at all. They're not better guitars, there's no extra mojo, magic wood or electronics or any of the mystical things 50 year old guitars are supposed to have, they're all pretty much the same standard, the same guitar.

Why not just buy two recent ones for €1400?

Seriously, check adverts.ie and have a look at the price of american strats.

darrenw5094

Can't belive that they are trying to sell a 1988 Fender Strat for €1400.
I have a '89 Plus (deluxe) model.....she's not worth much more than €700
The 80's models are worth between €700 to €900 tops.

Lunatic prices.

shanejunkin

OK, I'll try shop around...

On another note, is there much difference between and american standard and a strat plus? If so, what, and which is better?

Thanks again...

Doctor J

Why the fixation with the 88 strats in KVG? I've played them both and there's nothing about them that you can't get in a 08 for half the price. Just because they're older, it doesn't make them better, certainly not worth double the money...

...well, not for another 10 years until they become the 70's Fender of the future.

shanejunkin

I was told that the 1988 and 1989 strats are particularily good. I lked them when I played them. I have a mexican from the 80s at present and these two were way, way nicer. However, that's probably just teh contrast between US and Mexican Strats.

When I search around online I can find cheaper strats but they all seem to be made in Mexico. It's the same problem with most of the music shops.

As you've advised about '08 American Standard I will consider them now. I just would like to play one to compare.

Would you recommend '08 American Standard or '08 Strat Plus?

Voodu Child

A '08 US Strat will walk all over anything from the 80s. Its going to be cleaner, less wear and tear, better fretwork, etc.

If you can get the 20 year old one cheap, great, but this notion that old electric guitars somehow get better with age is baloney.

If you're looking for something 'cheaper' then the Japanese made strats are good quality for the money, certainly a couple of notches above mexican. And there are also plenty of Strat style guitars made by other brands that are fantastic for the money....again, some of the stuff coming out of Japan is brilliant, if all you want is a great playing guitar and arent fussed about the name on the headstock.

darrenw5094

Second hand G & L from the USA.....even 'better than the real thing'

check out this for a great deal for you, brand new.
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/10900
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/34692
Jimi would be proud son.....

shanejunkin

darrenw5094 wrote: »

Second hand G & L from the USA.....even 'better than the real thing'

check out this for a great deal for you, brand new.
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/10900
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/34692
Jimi would be proud son.....

Thanks for all the tips guys. I've just ordered an olypic white american standard, hard case and delivered for €850. I hope it turns out as nice as the ones in KVG!! I'll let you know...

BostonB

I'd prefer a new one myself. Unless its something you can't get any more like a Telecaster Plus Deluxe etc.

Doctor J

shanejunkin wrote: »

Thanks for all the tips guys. I've just ordered an olypic white american standard, hard case and delivered for €850. I hope it turns out as nice as the ones in KVG!! I'll let you know...

Congratulations on the new axe. I think you made the right choice. Put some pics up when it arrives.:)

shanejunkin

Hi All again,

I'll get the pics up of the new guitar in a few days, but in the meantime I need some more advice.

Do you know what are the symptoms of a speaker issue? My Vox AC30 is crackling and humming away independant of whether I have the guitar hooked in or not. A lot of the time it is at a low level but sometimes it can get pretty loud and very annoying. I have recently had the valves changed and fully serviced so I don't think there's any issue there. I suspect that the speakers need to be changed.

If they do, I am thinking of installing Celestion Green Backs. However, I don't know whether to stick in the 8 ohm or the 16 ohm version. Does anyone know whether the 8 or 16 ohm is suitable for the Vox AC30?

Also, would you recommend the greenbacks? Is there much of a difference between them and the blue backs?

darrenw5094

You should really post up a new thread for this problem or it might get passed over.

The difference in speakers can be big, so think about them alot. Maybe search for some sound clips somewhere, youtube is always a good place to look.

As for the crackling, it might just be the volume knobs/pots need to be cleaned. But is has been serviced recently, so that is unlikely.

shanejunkin

Thanks, I've posted a new thread.

Yeah, I don't think it's the pots, they were cleaned up in the service. Also, the crackling doesn't modulate when you adjust the knobs.