Fireworks

slamman

I have just been reading that the fine for using fireworks without a license has been increased from E6 to E10000 or 5 years in prison.Surley if fireworks were legalized and regulated (strictly over 18 etc.) .We could keep them away from unsupervised children, have a bit of fun at holleween and most importantly create some much needed revenue for the government.At the moment any man women or CHILD can just go to their local market and buy as much "illegal" fireworks as they like .

bluto63

How would legalizing them keep them away from children?

TempestSabre

Its to compensate for lack of enforcement.

fish-head

Legalising them just makes them far more available to young kids.
It's the same with drink and smokes, just because the law say you have to be a certain age doesn't stop the kids from getting binned and puffing away.

fillmore jive

if they were legalized everybody would be setting them off down the streets, all year round. it'd be too dangerous.

Ciaran500

fillmore jive wrote:

if they were legalized everybody would be setting them off down the streets, all year round. it'd be too dangerous.

Like in the UK? Oh wait...

mike65

Is it me or have there been far fewer bangs this year so far?

Mike.

Dundalk Daily

I live a few doors down from a Garda house and they had a bloody serious party on Friday night and finished up with a fireworks display at 4 in the morning. Going by the array of fireworks they let off Ive no doubt these were seized from someome. Great enforcement of this new law.

Mossy Monk

mike65 wrote:

Is it me or have there been far fewer bangs this year so far?

Mike.

aa bit of a reduction but they are still exploding every now and again

slamman

bluto63 wrote:

How would legalizing them keep them away from children?

You are suppossed to be 18 to buy alcohol in this country and we all know it is possible for some kids to get it.But you don't see groups of kids running around at halloween with a couple of hundred euro worth of vodka freightening old people for weeks on end (Well not in most places anyway).Yes some kids would get fireworks if they were legalized the same way that some kids get alcohol but if they were legalized their would be far less unsupervised children with access to them

woosaysdan

put those labels on fireworks, the same as on fag boxes!!!! that should work!!! sure isnt it working with the fags!!!!!

tbh

mike65 wrote:

Is it me or have there been far fewer bangs this year so far?

Mike.

round our way, 70-80% less I have to say.

Wertz

Gotta love the billboard ads for the new laws on this:

"Now you can loose a lot more than fingers. €10,000 fine!"

Yeah, whatever...I know personally I'd be a lot more terrified of loosing fingers or my kids loosing them than a financial fine...but i haven't seen the former being any large detterent over the years...

Definitely a lot less this year than others...although round my way sunday before halloween is usually when it kicks off...people only in the road from lining republican gangs' pockets in Jonesborough giving em to their kids to run wild.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

fillmore jive wrote:

if they were legalized everybody would be setting them off down the streets, all year round. it'd be too dangerous.

How do other countries deal with this problem? they aren't illegal in a lot of them and yet this doesn;t happen?

fillmore jive

Ikky Poo2 wrote:

How do other countries deal with this problem? they aren't illegal in a lot of them and yet this doesn;t happen?

valid point. maybe it's just in our nature to blow sh!t up.

ronbyrne2005

In Uk you can only buy them in shops for 3 weeks before guy fawkes night. I think people wait till the legal ones are available in shops so they only tend to be let off during this period. Because they are illegally imported and sold here they start arriving in earlier and earlier so the illegal importers can make money asap. We tend to over do everything in this country(drink, drugs etc) so don;t know if legalised selling would work or not but at least the fireworks could be taxed and the taxes raised used to fund more gardai to deal with kids who missuse the fireworks and the safety of the fireworks would be much better

Riamfada

This is more to do with noise pollution than the childrens well being.


Only in Ireland can something that is so enjoyable and a marker of such a special holiday be used to create vandalisim. We really do live in a ****hole of a state

Gillo

Alot of it is to do with the fact that they are illegal.

Tell any 16 you can't go and do X, and chances are they will do it. If fireworks were legalised for the first month or two loads of people would buy them, after that it would fall off, same as anything the novelty would wear off.

Putting an age limit on them would also help, but unlike alcohal and tabocco, it would have to be followed through, keep the 10,000 fine for anyone selling them to underage people and actively enforce it. If they police actively persued off licences who sold to underage drinkers, then off licences would stop selling.

slamman

gillo wrote:

Putting an age limit on them would also help, but unlike alcohal and tabocco, it would have to be followed through, keep the 10,000 fine for anyone selling them to underage people and actively enforce it..

The best idea i've heard in a long time

OFDM

The bangers and fireworks start at the beginning of October last year, where I am. There has definately been a shortage of them this year...

Sonnenblumen

slamman wrote:

I have just been reading that the fine for using fireworks without a license has been increased from E6 to E10000 or 5 years in prison.Surley if fireworks were legalized and regulated (strictly over 18 etc.) .We could keep them away from unsupervised children, have a bit of fun at holleween and most importantly create some much needed revenue for the government.At the moment any man women or CHILD can just go to their local market and buy as much "illegal" fireworks as they like .

Agree, make them available from designated shops for 5 days each year (halloween 3 days, New Years 2 days). You will never wipe out the illegal trade now, too well established but at least you will give more grown up children the opportunity to enjoy etc as well as generate some new revenue for Gov.

The Sweeper

I think there are just as many injuries when you legalise them as when they're illegal, but the public nuisance element is a lot less when they're legal. I live in England, and there are plenty of chavvy youths around this area who could set off fireworks all the time if they felt like it - but they're not bothered. I only ever hear fireworks on the nights of Guy Fawkes, Hallowe'en, New Year's Eve and occasionally in the summer when someone's having some sort of house party - and then it's nearly always rockets - something that gives you something to look at.

I'm always astounded when my parents tell me they spend a month listening to nothing but bangers - three weeks up to Hallowe'en, and a week afterwards.

SpitfireIV

OFDM wrote:

The bangers and fireworks start at the beginning of October last year, where I am. There has definately been a shortage of them this year...

They've been going off here since mid September, the ploughing championships I'd imagine was a good source for them this year. Scares me poor dog senceless!

Black Swan

A lost cause?

Ruu_Old

OFDM wrote:

The bangers and fireworks start at the beginning of October last year, where I am. There has definately been a shortage of them this year...

Little or none back home, my sources tell me and none in little Urbana, Illinois either. Its possible that if they were legalised, like gillo mentioned loads would buy them but the issue might die down a bit but to get it enforced is another story.

\m/_(>_<)_\m/

Dundalk Daily wrote:

I live a few doors down from a Garda house and they had a bloody serious party on Friday night and finished up with a fireworks display at 4 in the morning. Going by the array of fireworks they let off Ive no doubt these were seized from someome. Great enforcement of this new law.

oh so you don't mind this law been enforced, but not car tax or TV licences.
interesting...

no way should the be legalised,

Happycamper2006

if you like fireworks but you can not buy or use them becasue their illegal
try this maby we can get the legalised

wright letters ,send faxes and emails to your local law makers in your
State CAPITAL
telling them why you want fireworks legalised in your state

Kinetic^

We don't have states over here pal.........hit the road ya red neck!!!!

Happycamper2006

bluto63 wrote:

How would legalizing them keep them away from children?

well keep em locked up

have strict laws if kids are caught with fireworks
thay should be suverly punished

like spanked from a wooden paddle


no tv for a year

no frends over for a year

have a crimal record


etc

HJM

That's a bit harsh. lol.

Happycamper2006 wrote: »

well keep em locked up

have strict laws if kids are caught with fireworks
thay should be suverly punished

like spanked from a wooden paddle


no tv for a year

no frends over for a year

have a crimal record


etc

El Weirdo

HJM wrote: »

That's a bit harsh. lol.

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HJM

I know... I still don't care tho!

El Weirdo wrote: »

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