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£10+1 sixpac on Betfair, standard hand or badly played?

  • 19-10-2006 2:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭


    I had no read on the following play but standard raises were between 3 and 4 times the bb. Should I dump my tens preflop as I'm out of position, should I reraise all in preflop?, should I go all in on what is a good board for a pair of tens or was my line of putting in a info bet then folding to the reraise a good one?
    HAND 19
    Game #3668538404: Hold'em NL (25/50) - 2006/10/19 - 14:59:23 (GMT)
    Table "SixPak10 3691985 - 1" Seat 5 is the button.
    Seat 1: shoutman (1203 in chips)
    Seat 3: Neil051 (2065 in chips)
    Seat 4: Willmott (969 in chips)
    Seat 5: Jimbob63 (1162 in chips)
    Seat 6: magic7 (601 in chips)
    magic7: posts small blind 25
    shoutman: posts big blind 50
    HOLE CARDS
    dealt to shoutman [Th Td]
    Neil051: folds
    Willmott: calls 50
    Jimbob63: raises to 200
    magic7: folds
    shoutman: calls 150
    Willmott: folds
    FLOP
    [5h 7h 4c]
    shoutman: bets 250
    Jimbob63: raises to 962 and is all-in
    shoutman: folds
    Returned uncalled bets 712 to Jimbob63
    Jimbob63: doesn't show hand
    Jimbob63 collects 975 from Main pot
    SUMMARY
    Total pot 975 Main pot 975 Rake 0
    Board [5h 7h 4c]
    Seat 1: shoutman (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: Neil051 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Willmott folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Jimbob63 (button) collected 975
    Seat 6: magic7 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


    Cheers for any advice offered

    Luke


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    What are the stack sizes??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    edited to include stack sizes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Jaysus it's fairly shallow, it must have been a rock garden of a table, or do these 6 Pacs have a terrible structure??

    If you're re-raising PF then it's a Push or nothing. If you call you're basically committed to a low flop such as this, if I lead out (that's not a push) I'll defo call a re-raise.

    I might have just pushed PF, or on a flop like this I'd probably Check with the intention of RAI or Calling All-In, or open pushing turn if checked behind. Alot of my play would be Villain dependant, but certainly all my chips are going in the middle here more often than not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    There was a lot of chips being moved around by different players but in a very circular motion, the structure isnt that bad and some players are very loose, I hate being all in if avoidable in these tournaments as I am fairly confident that I can outplay at least four of the six people at the table more often than not.

    I know that after this hand I have left myself short but I just think that the only hand I have beaten that he is pushing with is the nut flush, maybe its just me but I dont tend to see reraises in this game unless the player is very strong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    imo, as played i call the all in, expect to see AKh a lot here and also JJ,QQ. i know it souns bad i cant remember any other site where pocket pairs come up together thn betfair. i play there most often and see it very frequently. i push pre-flop here also, although calling and pushing an under flop isnt terrible either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    personally - id av got the chips over the line without hesitation and expect to be ahead.

    EDIT: Id av got the chips in Preflop. I always try to get a stack early in sixpacks - I find that ppl are more likely to call on a marginal hand/when behind if you force them all across the line - I find a a tenner most ppl feel that if they get beat there is another one to go to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Shove pf. You played the hand terribly up to this point so best not to make things worse by folding. Call now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Thanks for the advice people, It seems that most times I post hands asking for advice the answer is that I'm playing too cautiously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Poker is gambling after all, and TBH, you're not going to be outplaying anyone when you only have 15BB's left (as you did when you folded here)


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