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Smoking on Dublin Bus

  • 17-10-2006 1:09pm
    #1
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Just saw a bus driver somking on a bus that was in use.

    Is there anything that can be done about this. It sickens with the double standards


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭mackerski


    kearnsr wrote:
    Is there anything that can be done about this.

    Report him?

    Dermot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    kearnsr wrote:
    Just saw a bus driver somking on a bus that was in use.

    Is there anything that can be done about this. It sickens with the double standards
    When you say "in use" do you mean that there were passengers aboard or that he was driving without passengers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭BendiBus


    Definitely report him!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    When you say "in use" do you mean that there were passengers aboard or that he was driving without passengers?

    There were passengers on board while he was driving.

    I sent a complaint to Dublin Bus but I doubt anything will happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭peter1892


    kearnsr wrote:
    There were passengers on board while he was driving.

    I sent a complaint to Dublin Bus but I doubt anything will happen

    I sent a complaint to Dublin Bus a few months ago & got a very positiive response from them. Their attitude is that if the public don't report what they see as inappropriate behaviour then they can't act on it.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    peter1892 wrote:
    I sent a complaint to Dublin Bus a few months ago & got a very positiive response from them. Their attitude is that if the public don't report what they see as inappropriate behaviour then they can't act on it.


    What was there response?

    Did they do anything about it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭BendiBus


    What would you like done about it?

    If the driver in question has never been reported before then I doubt he'll be taken out and shot against the wall of Donnybrook garage.

    However if there have been a number of previous complaints it's very possible he'll be disciplined/warned depending on what's gone before.

    So if he isn't sacked it doesn't mean your complaint has been ignored.

    If he's been caught on his buses CCTV then maybe he'll be fined €3k or whatever the current penalty is. :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    BendiBus wrote:
    What would you like done about it?

    If the driver in question has never been reported before then I doubt he'll be taken out and shot against the wall of Donnybrook garage.

    However if there have been a number of previous complaints it's very possible he'll be disciplined/warned depending on what's gone before.

    So if he isn't sacked it doesn't mean your complaint has been ignored.

    If he's been caught on his buses CCTV then maybe he'll be fined €3k or whatever the current penalty is. :)


    If it was some scumbag that got caught doing it he'd get fined. If it was me I'd get fined. If a driver gets caught I dount anything will happen hence why I think its double standards.

    P.S I dont smoke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭deman


    Definitely report him to Bus Eireann (if it is Bus Eireann) and also to the Gardai. And tell Bus Eireann about the report to the Gardai.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Out with the camera phone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    tom dunne wrote:
    Out with the camera phone.

    Exactly and report him to the cops as well as DB.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    The driver smoking on the bus was breaking the law and thus so was dublin bus. Id say he'd get more than a slap on the wrist.

    As someone pointed out already Dublin Bus are very responsive, particularly on issues like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 538 ✭✭✭SickCert


    It will be taken very seriously, verbal maybe written warning. The garda can only take higher action.
    I hate a bus cab full of ash and with the window open it gets everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭peter1892


    kearnsr wrote:
    What was there response?

    Did they do anything about it

    They responded to me & detailed the disciplinary action to be taken against the driver in question (interviewing, inspection & if necessary re-training).

    In your case I'd imagine they'll have a word with him as regards professional conduct. As far as I know there are plain-clothes inspectors in DB who's job it is to monitor their drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    This must be taken to the highest court of justice in all the land!


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,235 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    PiE wrote:
    This must be taken to the highest court of justice in all the land!
    You mean this site isn't it? :eek:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    tom dunne wrote:
    Out with the camera phone.


    By the time I had it out ready to go all I got is a blur. Got its reg so was happy with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Just like SickCert I don`t smoke and I....D E T E S T !!...having to take over a Bus from a committed smoker.
    However with 3,000 drivers you are most certainly not going to get full compliance with the No Smoking dictat.

    All you can do is persevere and settle for a good average.

    There is in my mind a difference of scale between a Busdriver breathing foul smelling John Player Blue breath all over ye as you do the money thing and the same lad being seen smoking as he passes you by.....be certain that it was a ciggie and not a pen or something that was stuck in his gob.

    I kno that I now spend so much time writing on failed Magnetic Stripe tickets that I aften have a Pen stuck in my mouth in an attempt to combine good driving practice with acceptible secretarial skill levels....

    As for the enforcement of the General No Smoking rule on Public Transport it remains an anachronistic dinasour with both the Bus Atha Cliath Inspectorate AND a member of the Garda Siochana being required to attend and identify the miscreant at several stages of the procedure.

    Then even if the Lawful brigade have dotted their eyes and crossed their tea`s it remains open to the learned Judge to resort to the last refuge of an Irish Scoundrel.....The "Benefit" of the Probation Act....

    There are other ways and means available if a member of the Judiciary had enuf Balls to contemplate them...such as ....

    Place 78 convicted Bus Smokers into a sealed Vehicle for a set amount of time and pressurize the thing with smoke boxes then blow several Kilo`s of stale ash over them before releasing them back into the wild....This could be incorporated into the weekly "Winning Streak" lotto show or even repeated on Seoige an O Shea for the afternoon TV brigade.....For punishment to work...it has to be VISIBLE !!

    ?:eek:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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