I messed it! (Japanese guitars)

les-paul

Hi ppl

So I had made my mind, I wanted a Japanese left handed Strat, I loved the ST68-85L:
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ishibashi.co.jp%2Fwebshop%2Fguitar%2Ffender%2Dj%2Fst7185tx.htm&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2
So I asked for a price quotation including shipping, but then I made the fatal mistake: being the LPs my wet dream (see my nick), I thought, why not ask for some Japanese replica? When Ishibashi got back they asked 84,000 Yen for the Strat (not bad at all, I calculated 700 euro, counting 25% of taxes and the like), and they offered me this baby, an Edwards E-LP-85 for the same prize as the Strat.
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/original/E-LP-85SDLH.html
And now I don't know what the h*ll to do! I'm very blues-classic rock oriented, and I don't know how those Seymour Duncan pickups will be. Another point is that they've plenty of Strats but they ran out of Edwards. They should have some in a month's time.
So I am asking for your opinion, I know a guitar is a very personal thing but I don't know what to do. Harmony Central reviews do nothing but praise the Edwards (google cache, looks like HC is down:
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:SsJkwzOteC0J:reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar/product/Edwards/E-LP-85SD%2BLes%2BPaul%2BCopy/10/1+harmony+central+user+reviews+e-lp/85SD&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a

Johnny Storm

There's only one possible solution:-
you must have both.

Doctor J

Those Seymour Duncans are going to be as sweet as living in the Playboy mansion, that is the JB and Jazz combination, I think. I think you know you'll get both in the long run... the question should be which one first? Which would you find harder to be without, humbuckers or single coils?

Personally, I think Les Paul now, Strat later (sorry Ancient1 ).

les-paul

I should have known the answer I'd got when I posted to a forum of helpless hardcore GASsed people!

Ancient1

Johnny Storm wrote:

There's only one possible solution:-
you must have both.

This profound wisdom is the reason Mr. Storm is a senior and respected member here. Does that answer your question, les-paul?

Quattroste

Having gone the Les Paul now and Strat later route, I would have to disagree. I would say Strat now and Les Paul later. The Strat (to me) is a more versatile guitar and will hold the interest much more due to the variety of available sounds/styles.

You will always have that "should I have gone for the LP" question which will grow in your mind and eat away at your sanity endlessly until you finally give in and get a LP too.

les-paul

Good point Quattroste. Thing is, I'm upgrading form a cheap Squier and it would be nice some fat tone for a change.

Can any Edwards owner comment her views? Thanks!

Out Of Order

Damn you, I hadnt seen them before!
How come you cant find them from Ishabishi navigation?

They seem like the same lefty options as the Tokais that Ishabishi were selling before except with Duncans.
Is there a connection, take-over or something?
I had my eye on the black Les Paul custom one.
Heres a picture I had saved of it:

Don1

Well, I had a Squire strat starting out. Upgraded to a Mexican std. Strat. Got very annoyed that it wasn't loud enough when I needed then got and Epiphone LP and retro-fitted Duncan JB and Lil '59. Never play the strat anymore. Okay, very rarely for a Hendrix bit or something but eventually the buzzing from the single coils drives me nuts!

les-paul

Check out this link
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/original/E-LP-85SDLH.html
and watch the picture showing the neck junction to the body. Would you say it's a bolt on neck? I'm not sure I wand to have a bolted on LP, like that crappy Epiphone LP-100.

Doctor J

It says it's a set neck, just like a real Les Paul

JOINT : Set-Neck

Johnny Storm

You could have this LP-esque PRS for €655. Just for the sake of confusion

http://www.thomann.de/ie/prs_tremonti_se_black_egitarre.htm

david

http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/product-detail.asp?id=3205&catid=3&manid=83&quantity=1&product=PRS+SE+Singlecut%2C+Black+Cherry%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Gig+Bag

Even nicer

les-paul

Alright, I´ve managed to make my mind again, I'll go for the Edwards, if people at Ishibashi can stock some, they said there were havingsome problems with ESP stocks and I'd have to wait until mid-November... I'll give them a month and if they can't get them I'll order the Fender. Anyone will make a real nice present for my birthday in early December!

Doctor J

I've never met an SE that had had decent electronics. Very noisy beasts, they seem to be. Edwards ftw!

Johnny Storm

Doctor J wrote:

I've never met an SE that had had decent electronics. Very noisy beasts, they seem to be. Edwards ftw!

TBH I just like the look of them. Never actually played one! :rolleyes:

DamoRed

Sorry if I missed all the chat on this subject, I may be miles behind the times but...

I've just noticed that Ishibashi have started to limit Japanese Fenders to Japan only! "Sales of the fender Japan commodity I will limit it only to Japan". This is on the page of the individual guitar itself and on the Fender Japan page with all styles, it says "- I will limit sales of the fender Japan commodity only to Japan" So that makes it fairly clear. How long has this been here?

When was the last time anyone here ordered and received a Fender from them?

Dammit, this is going to cause much gnashing of teeth!

Damo

david

DamoRed wrote:

Sorry if I missed all the chat on this subject, I may be miles behind the times but...

I've just noticed that Ishibashi have started to limit Japanese Fenders to Japan only! "Sales of the fender Japan commodity I will limit it only to Japan". This is on the page of the individual guitar itself and on the Fender Japan page with all styles, it says "- I will limit sales of the fender Japan commodity only to Japan" So that makes it fairly clear. How long has this been here?

When was the last time anyone here ordered and received a Fender from them?

Dammit, this is going to cause much gnashing of teeth!

Damo

Last July

Johnny Storm

DamoRed wrote:

Sorry if I missed all the chat on this subject, I may be miles behind the times but...

I've just noticed that Ishibashi have started to limit Japanese Fenders to Japan only! "Sales of the fender Japan commodity I will limit it only to Japan". This is on the page of the individual guitar itself and on the Fender Japan page with all styles, it says "- I will limit sales of the fender Japan commodity only to Japan" So that makes it fairly clear. How long has this been here?

When was the last time anyone here ordered and received a Fender from them?

Dammit, this is going to cause much gnashing of teeth!

Damo

:eek: :eek: :eek:

EDIT: Oh well. I suppose there's always GeeBay.

Voodu Child

Ill might mail Noriko to see the craic... i reckon i could get one off them.

Doctor J

U-box ftw. They'll ship anything second hand anywhere.

Eoin Madsen

DamoRed wrote:

I've just noticed that Ishibashi have started to limit Japanese Fenders to Japan only! "Sales of the fender Japan commodity I will limit it only to Japan". This is on the page of the individual guitar itself and on the Fender Japan page with all styles, it says "- I will limit sales of the fender Japan commodity only to Japan" So that makes it fairly clear. How long has this been here?

When was the last time anyone here ordered and received a Fender from them?

I ordered a Japanese tele on behalf of a friend today. I've been chatting with someone in the store for a couple of days about it. Nothing about the above was mentioned. If any problems come up I'll let you know.

DamoRed

Thanks Eoin, I'l be keeping an eye on progress on that.

The U-Box, now dangerously adorned with pics would be a possibility, if the particular model you want is listed, and if someone doesn't get there before you.

I wasn't able to do a search on this subject last night, otherwise I wouldn't have brought it up and looked so far behind the times. The other thing, was that when Les Paul originally posted that he was considering a Japanese model, nobody said anything about not being able to get one. So I thought it had happened between then and now.

Damo

les-paul

BTW, I got an email yesterday from Ishibashi telling that they'll receive my precious next week, yum! Does anybody know how long will it take to arrive to Ireland?

Doctor J

In my experience, one week.

les-paul

Oh, and as you can see in the email I originally asked for a Fender, so I don't think that sign on the website is no big deal. Maybe they're just covering theis ass, as CIJ guitars are only meant to be marketed in Japan I think...