Blackie Lawless Dies in Car Crash

Motley Crue

I pray this isnt true!:http://blackie-lawless.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/auto80.php

Found this earlier today. A posting on the official website reads....
http://www.waspnation.com/waspnation.htm

As reports continue to surface on this ludicrous bad joke, Coallier Entertainment's Daniel Stanton, manager for WASP, has released the following statement from Blackie Lawless -

"If I died, I wish someone would have had the common decency to let me know, besides,
a car crash is way too mundane, I would have opted for something more spectacular"

Blackie Lawless

Either way, gig hasnt been cancelled as of yet!

SirLemonhead

Is the new album a concept album or what?

Wasn't a fan of the Neon god albums myself. Dying for the world was great though..

GhostInTheRuins

scared the **** outta me when i read the title of the thread. thank god its just a hoax!

JC 2K3

http://motley_crue.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/auto80.php

MagnumForce

MasterOfSolos wrote:

Is the new album a concept album or what?

Wasn't a fan of the Neon god albums myself. Dying for the world was great though..

Its meant to be a "back to the old days" balls out stuff with hints of all that meaningful bollox they tried to put into Dying for the world. Im interested in hearing oul Doug Blair in the studio, Live on the bonus disc of The Crimson Idol, he was terrible, but that was probably due to the fact that he only learned the songs the night before.

The gig should be good, hopefully theyll be on top form. and theyre being supported by an excellent all female band called Jaded, heres their myspace

SirLemonhead

I'm still not 100% sure If i'll go to that gig or not..haven't really liked the live recordings of all their recent gigs that i've heard.

I still think it's a shame that Chris Holmes isn't in the band anymore.

MagnumForce wrote:

Its meant to be a "back to the old days" balls out stuff with hints of all that meaningful bollox they tried to put into Dying for the world. Im interested in hearing oul Doug Blair in the studio, Live on the bonus disc of The Crimson Idol, he was terrible, but that was probably due to the fact that he only learned the songs the night before.

The gig should be good, hopefully theyll be on top form. and theyre being supported by an excellent all female band called Jaded, heres their myspace

MagnumForce

Yeah, Chris was deadly, i mean, he wasnt the best of guitar players, but he had characture and id take that over boring technichal playing anyday, too bad Blackie's such a prick to work with and never paid him.

Motley Crue

JC 2K3 wrote:

http://motley_crue.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/auto80.php

Woah, i didnt know you could do that! Well, at least we know how untrue that is!

Motley Crue

MasterOfSolos wrote:

Is the new album a concept album or what?

Wasn't a fan of the Neon god albums myself. Dying for the world was great though..

W.A.S.P.'s new album, "Dominator", will be released late January/early February via SPV Records.

"Dominator" (view cover here) track listing:

01. Mercy
02. Burn (DEEP PURPLE cover)
03. Take Me Up
04. Heaven's Blessed
05. Heaven's Hung In Black
06. Long Long Way To Go
07. Teacher
08. Heaven's Hung In Black (Reprise)
09. Fortunate Son (CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL cover)

Motley Crue

far from being the puppet i taught he was, he can really give these guys a run for their money in his political beliefs. check this out, and imagine Green Day being THIS politically aware

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfhaEFrFsCk

Dreamcrusher

that video totally reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMsVgWiJ5UE

blackie and alan partridge look remarkably similar. Also i hate when bands try and tell me whats going on in the world. Sit down, play your god damn guitar and shut up. leave politics for politicians. I dont want to a man who posed for a photo with dead babies stuck on spikes coming out of his knees telling me why 'corporate america is teh EVIL!'

SirLemonhead

MagnumForce wrote:

Yeah, Chris was deadly, i mean, he wasnt the best of guitar players, but he had characture and id take that over boring technichal playing anyday, too bad Blackie's such a prick to work with and never paid him.

I thought he was really good..loved his legato playing

As for the new album, two covers and a reprise song?

Motley Crue

MasterOfSolos wrote:

As for the new album, two covers and a reprise song?

Im a little confused about this one, what does a reprise song actually mean?

MagnumForce

Motley Crue wrote:

Im a little confused about this one, what does a reprise song actually mean?

Remember Helldorado, there was the title track after the intro, and then the last song was "hot rod to hell/Helldorado reprise" where they played Hod Rods To Hell and then went back into Helldorado and finished it off. Although i dont see how theyre gonna do a reprise all on its own, i assume Teacher is gonna change into the end of Heaven's Hung in Black, either that or tracks 5-8 are all gonna blend into a seamless mix of the four going back into Heaven's Hung In Black.

The Burn cover makes my hairs stand on end with fear...what are they gonna do to it?!! they usually dont do too bad with covers but i get this horrible feeling theyre gonna ruin it. i hope im wrong and its excellent though

MasterOfSolos wrote:

I thought he was really good..loved his legato playing

He was great, but unfortunatly you get alot of people saying he's a terrible guitarist. I love his playing, he's what i modelled myself on when i began playing. i love the way when they were recording The Headless Children, Blackie gave Chris explicit instructions on how he wanted to solos to be played, what style, what feeling etc, and, now forgive me but i cant remember exactly what happened cos it was years ago when i read about this but either A)Chris just went into the studio and played whatever the **** he liked, or He recorded everything Blackie wanted, then went into the studio one night and deleted it all and rerecorded the solos however the **** he liked.

GhostInTheRuins

MagnumForce wrote:

He was great, but unfortunatly you get alot of people saying he's a terrible guitarist. I love his playing, he's what i modelled myself on when i began playing. i love the way when they were recording The Headless Children, Blackie gave Chris explicit instructions on how he wanted to solos to be played, what style, what feeling etc, and, now forgive me but i cant remember exactly what happened cos it was years ago when i read about this but either A)Chris just went into the studio and played whatever the **** he liked, or He recorded everything Blackie wanted, then went into the studio one night and deleted it all and rerecorded the solos however the **** he liked.

I just can't see how you think he's a great guitarist. I don't know if you've see the Sting dvd, but he ****s up so many times in that show. I mean, he even ****ed up the intro to chainsaw charlie. In my eyes anyway he's not that good.....

SirLemonhead

D.T. Jesus wrote:

I just can't see how you think he's a great guitarist. I don't know if you've see the Sting dvd, but he ****s up so many times in that show. I mean, he even ****ed up the intro to chainsaw charlie. In my eyes anyway he's not that good.....

If you're basing it all on the Sting DVD, I wouldn't. He quit (again) soon after that so god knows if he was just not bothered to make an effort or not.

Motley Crue

MasterOfSolos wrote:

If you're basing it all on the Sting DVD, I wouldn't. He quit (again) soon after that so god knows if he was just not bothered to make an effort or not.

Thats very true, its certainly an appauling DVD to base the glory of WASP on

MagnumForce

He was great, but unfortunatly you get alot of people saying he's a terrible guitarist.

D.T. Jesus wrote:

I just can't see how you think he's a great guitarist. I don't know if you've see the Sting dvd, but he ****s up so many times in that show. I mean, he even ****ed up the intro to chainsaw charlie. In my eyes anyway he's not that good.....

see, told you.

Yeah, The Sting DVD isn't a good example, it was a pretty **** gig altogether it seemed. But in my opinion he still played good enough for me. And you dont have to get everything right all the time and play absolutly perfect to be a great guitarist, all Chris has to do is swagger blind drunk onto the stage and give it a shot and ill be happy! (although I doubt Blackie would, and he wasnt.)

Listen to their other live albums and he plays fine, i mean he's great on Live...In The Raw and Double Live Assassins, he does Bob Kulicks "The Idol" solo justice while adding his own unique style. He's great at those ballad solos like "The Idol", "Sleeping In The Fire", "Widowmaker" and all that, he puts loads of feeling into em. He always writes good solos, really memorable.

Oh, and D.T.,: "JESUS SAVES!!!", love that riff!

Motley Crue

MagnumForce wrote:

Live...In The Raw and Double Live Assassins

Oh, and "JESUS SAVES!!!", love that riff!

Love those albums, and the special edition of Crimson Tide with the Who cover and the acoustic stuff live from Donnington is excellent

Anyone wanna organise a boards meet up prior to this gig, ill be headin in alone:( as im the only one o my mates with good music taste lol:p

Doctor J

I'd probably go to this if it wasn't so damn expensive. I saw WASP on the Headless Children tour, one of the best gigs I've ever been to (great lineup too, Johnny Rod, Frank Benali, Blackie and Chris). Really great show but didn't like the Crimson Idol and haven't really heard much of them since, apart from all the **** spoken about Blackie on Metal Sludge.

MagnumForce

Motley Crue wrote:

Love those albums, and the special edition of Crimson Tide with the Who cover and the acoustic stuff live from Donnington is excellent

I assume you mean Crimson Idol as Crimson Tide is a film with Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman about a submarine

the live stuff on that was really terrible but really great at the same time, the acoustic songs were incredible, have you seen Blackie and Johnny playing Hold On To My Heart acoustic on Youtube?, its excellent, I love Johnny Rods voice, too bad he quit and works as a paramedic now, scary thought. the live at Donnington tracks were played so terribly and Doug Blairs solos, not only are not learned cos he only learned em the day before, but his tone is horrible, it sounds like a starving cat being beaten with a baby with two broken legs. Still and all, i love it!

SirLemonhead

I have mixed feelings about the album in general, but Chris plays some really nice stuff on the Inside the electric circus album

There's a good Live at the Lyceum video floating around the internet of WASP back in 84 or so, and Chris sounded amazing then too...the extended Sleeping in the fire solo is a highlight for me.

MagnumForce

Live...In The Raw and KISS - Crazy Nights on tape were lent to me by my cousins boyfriend back a few years ago when i was 13 or 14, and they're the two albums which got me liking good music, i used to listen to Live...In The Raw every day, i love the two extra, never recorded in the studio, songs they play on it - Manimal and Harder, Faster

although one sourse says:

Manimal and Harder Faster were not recorded live for the Live In The Raw album. Both are studio songs mixed with live crowd sound.

Which I kinda figured anyway when listening to the croud noise in the background. Makes his rant about the PMRC before Harder, Faster a little less effective though when you picture him in the studio standing in front of a mic instead of a couple of thousand people.

J.R.HARTLEY

would it be an idea for the OP to change the title to NOT killed in car crash, i nearly spit out my drink when i saw it.

Motley Crue

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

would it be an idea for the OP to change the title to NOT killed in car crash, i nearly spit out my drink when i saw it.

Yes, it would, and I would change it if I knew how. Anyone else can feel free

GhostInTheRuins

MagnumForce wrote:

see, told you.

Yeah, The Sting DVD isn't a good example, it was a pretty **** gig altogether it seemed. But in my opinion he still played good enough for me. And you dont have to get everything right all the time and play absolutly perfect to be a great guitarist, all Chris has to do is swagger blind drunk onto the stage and give it a shot and ill be happy! (although I doubt Blackie would, and he wasnt.)

Listen to their other live albums and he plays fine, i mean he's great on Live...In The Raw and Double Live Assassins, he does Bob Kulicks "The Idol" solo justice while adding his own unique style. He's great at those ballad solos like "The Idol", "Sleeping In The Fire", "Widowmaker" and all that, he puts loads of feeling into em. He always writes good solos, really memorable.

Ok, well thats the only footage I've seen of him playing so i guess thats why i have that opinion. I bought double live assassins a few weeks ago but haven't had time to listen to it. I'll give a few spins soon and hopefully my opinion will change

MagnumForce wrote:

Oh, and D.T.,: "JESUS SAVES!!!", love that riff!

"WHAT???........ Jesus Saves!...............Yes he does!"
streets.... my favourite album of all time

SirLemonhead

D.T. Jesus wrote:

"WHAT???........ Jesus Saves!...............Yes he does!"
streets.... my favourite album of all time

That solo on Ghost in the ruins is utter class

GhostInTheRuins

MasterOfSolos wrote:

That solo on Ghost in the ruins is utter class

Agreed! i'm actually trying to figure that out at the moment. lol its not going that well....

SirLemonhead

D.T. Jesus wrote:

Agreed! i'm actually trying to figure that out at the moment. lol its not going that well....

I can sorta make my way around it...sorta

GhostInTheRuins

MasterOfSolos wrote:

I can sorta make my way around it...sorta

you don't happen to have it tabbed out or anything do you? that would make my life so much easier

SirLemonhead

D.T. Jesus wrote:

you don't happen to have it tabbed out or anything do you? that would make my life so much easier

Nah sorry. Tab out what you have and i'll see if I can add to it whenever I get a chance.

How much are tickets for the WASP gig anyway?

GhostInTheRuins

MasterOfSolos wrote:

Nah sorry. Tab out what you have and i'll see if I can add to it whenever I get a chance.

How much are tickets for the WASP gig anyway?

Cheers man!, The tickets are €38.50 i think

Motley Crue

D.T. Jesus wrote:

Cheers man!, The tickets are €38.50 i think

Yeah Soundcellar told me yesterday they have loads and theres no chance of a sell out, they havent seen sold 1/4 of their allocation apparently

Also, listened back to the Crimson Idol yesterday, and I think its such a really good album by such an underated band. Blackie must have had some serious issues with his parents, the linear notes are quite disturbing when he starts talking about the relationship he had with his parents.