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Why is Kevin Doyle playing for Reading today?

  • 14-10-2006 4:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭


    Just a quick question using Kevin Doyle as an example.

    I thought there was always a FIFA rule that if a player was not able to play for his country due to "injury" then he could not play for his club for 7 days.

    Maybe thats been changed but I would be grateful for replies


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    Probably bruising or somfin that would have healed.


    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,415 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Have never heard of that rule but I know his injusry wasn't anything more serious than a few days out, pity those few days coincided with international week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Paddy Kenny also played today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Laguna


    Maybe they have the 'attitude' and can't be arsed playing for their country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Laguna wrote:
    Maybe they have the 'attitude' and can't be arsed playing for their country.
    I think that was the idea behind that rule.

    Im not 100% sure about the 7 day part of it, maybe it was 5 days but there definitely was something like that a couple of years back


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    muffler wrote:
    I think that was the idea behind that rule.

    Im not 100% sure about the 7 day part of it, maybe it was 5 days but there definitely was something like that a couple of years back


    I've heard of it as well.

    I think a player go banned for breaking the rule (a couple of games nothing major). I think it was a Premiership player as well. Cant find it on google.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    Rule is if they dont travel to International games and play for their club the following week.

    Doyle did travel.


    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    Paddy Kenny and Kevin Doyle were examined by FAI doctors, and were deemed to be injured. They were sent back to their respective clubs. My understanding is that if a player excludes himself through injury, the home association can request to examine him and can subsequently apply to have the player "rested" for both club and country.

    A player can be banned for refusing to turn up for his country aswell. There was a recent case, although the player and club escape me, wherby a player had resigned from international football and he was called up by his country (France if memory serves me). If he refused he was in danger of being suspended, even though he had excluded himself by retireing!! Crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    Hobart wrote:


    A player can be banned for refusing to turn up for his country aswell. There was a recent case, although the player and club escape me, wherby a player had resigned from international football and he was called up by his country (France if memory serves me). If he refused he was in danger of being suspended, even though he had excluded himself by retireing!! Crazy.


    Makele



    kdjac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Hobart wrote:
    There was a recent case, although the player and club escape me, wherby a player had resigned from international football and he was called up by his country (France if memory serves me). If he refused he was in danger of being suspended, even though he had excluded himself by retireing!! Crazy.
    Makelele. Absolute craziness.

    Anelka turned down a call up a couple of seasons ago too, I can't remeber who the France coach was at the time, but he wanted FIFA to impose a domestic ban. Not sure if it happened in the end.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    It is quite obvious that many of the "injuries" which affected our players over the weekend were not true injuries... The fact is many players puffed out because the occasion was too big for them, thats why we should congratulate the players who did play on Wednesday as at least after embarrassing the country they went out and tried to make a mends...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    It is quite obvious that many of the "injuries" which affected our players over the weekend were not true injuries... The fact is many players puffed out because the occasion was too big for them, thats why we should congratulate the players who did play on Wednesday as at least after embarrassing the country they went out and tried to make a mends...

    Sorry, but thats total bollox...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    KdjaCL wrote:
    Rule is if they dont travel to International games and play for their club the following week.

    Doyle did travel.


    kdjac
    I dont think it had anything to do with travelling. The same rule applied to both home and away games. As I recall it correctly if a player or his club informed the national team manager that he was "injured" then that player could not play for his club for something like 5 - 7 days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭redspider


    Yeah, I noticed Doyle playing as well. I think that in his particular case it would seem to be genuine enough as:

    a) Staunton would probably have preferred to put him on, although that would have necessitated a 4-4-2 rather than a 4-5-1 on Wed, and

    b) the player would have probably preferred to play himself.

    Mind you, for Reading, this was an important game for them.

    Generally, the International Associations wouldn't want their own players to get in trouble either, so will sanction the 'injury'. Difficulties only arise when the player and management aren't getting on as in the case of Makelele, perhaps. Also, who medically can really say if a player has a muscle strain or not. Its not an exact science.

    However, its obvious to the blindman that 'fake injuries' ar occurring, every dog on the street knows, etc, etc.

    Redspider


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    It is quite obvious that many of the "injuries" which affected our players over the weekend were not true injuries... The fact is many players puffed out because the occasion was too big for them, thats why we should congratulate the players who did play on Wednesday as at least after embarrassing the country they went out and tried to make a mends...
    So it's an actual fact then? I'd love to see your proof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    If anyone is questioning Kevin Doyle's commitment towards playing for their country they would want their flipping heads examined.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    MrJoeSoap wrote:
    If anyone is questioning Kevin Doyle's commitment towards playing for their country they would want their flipping heads examined.
    I think the same goes for any Irish player that I can think of too no matter what some people like to think. :)


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