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If you won the lotto, How would your training change?

  • 14-10-2006 11:26am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭


    If you won the lotto, How would your training change?

    If I had a zillion quids, I would have loads of free time to train, could buy loads of videos, join a spanky gym, eat really expensive lettuce..etc...

    Any thoughts/ideas on what you'd do with your money as reagrds MA ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Baggio...


    Fly to the US and get private tuition from Carl Cestari.

    Buy a shed load more DVDS (as I only have one or two :D ).

    Then start up a large Combatives training Gym. That's about it....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I'd pay people to train for me and become the ultimate fattycake!!

    But, obviously, go training abroad. I'd like to visit ATT for a few months. They've got a great camp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Jimkel


    Ha if I won the lotto I would have loads of free time to train, I would probably get ultra intense in my training for a few years, since I wouldnt need a full time job. I would also take up another MA to complement my shotokan, Maybe a grappling art like BJJ. I would make a large donation to the United shotokan karate federation since they are non profit and none of the instructors make a dime,they just do it for the love of the art. I would also buy myelf an expensive sports car! (eh I know its not ma related but I would, Actually I could say it's "So I could make it to Training on time!")

    I would build a large Dojo type hall outside my new house, So me and my pals can train in our own time.I would go abroad and spend some time training with the best, I would definatly go to Japan and train with the JKA for a while.

    And maybe some private lessons with Dan Inasanto and the like.
    tough After that I would probably have no money left and have to go back to dreaming on Boards.ie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    i would train full time and hire the top boxing-muay thai-judo-jiu jitsu coaches and get them to train me in my purpose made gym-nice!

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    I would get Ramon Dekker and JJ Machado to live in digs in my Ma's house. I wouldn't train with them or anything, I just think that'd be gas...

    I'd set up my own drunken monkey school of martial arts. Padded walls, big Gladiator style cotton bud weapons, and enough booze and crack cocaine to kill a herd of elephants. Then I'd buy and Apache helipcopter, shoot some livestock and crash into the ocean in a big ball of flames...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭waterford mma


    Roper wrote:
    I would get Ramon Dekker and JJ Machado to live in digs in my Ma's house. I wouldn't train with them or anything, I just think that'd be gas...

    I'd set up my own drunken monkey school of martial arts. Padded walls, big Gladiator style cotton bud weapons, and enough booze and crack cocaine to kill a herd of elephants. Then I'd buy and Apache helipcopter, shoot some livestock and crash into the ocean in a big ball of flames...

    this guy knows how to party


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭droc


    LMAO @ roper, great reply.

    My training wouldn't change, I'd still be too lazy to train but I'd use half the money to set up a european event that pit the best in Europe against each other consistently and pit the winners against guys around their own level, but better known, from the States, Japan etc.
    I'd also set up a full time gym(s) with quality trainers (I think JK would be among them, James Schiavo and Emmanuel Fernandez too) to try and give fighters from Europe a chance to train like pro's and move to the next level.

    DROC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    I would get someone else to do it for me!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭edges


    Spend time between the phillipines, japan, china and wherever else i can train with the best. Spend time teaching for free, promote the martial arts especially to those disrespectful fat blobs of noise we refer to as kids.

    Set up a huge, state of the art gym for all stylists to come and train, with guest instructors coming from all corners of the globe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    father jacks simple aspirations spring to mind:

    drink. feck. girls

    rinse.

    repeat


    Martial arts wise, id hire a gang of ex-spetnaz agents to do my bidding and settle old scores ninja style


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    who wouldn't like to do a world tour? train in brazil, thailand, america, japan, russia? but winning the irish lotto i'd buy a gaf probably a shed in ringsend for a million.

    i'd love to build a martial arts gym in the city centre, mats, bags, rings, cages, showers, seminar rooms, dorms, the works. try and get as many as the top people as possilbe training under the one roof right bang in the middle of city.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    I'd train with Lopez for awhile (Two time TKD Olympic gold medalist, 2000 and 2004).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I'd buy an apachie gunship and be damned with MA for self defence :D

    But seriously I don't think my training, or the lads I train with (and under) would change. Maybe if I had more time and money I could eat and rest better than I presently do. Plus I could afford to train in the gym in the AM and Judo in the PM.

    Plus I could be a regular visitor to the Kodokan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    I got it already! LOL as its soooo cheap in Thailand to train.

    I guess I d work a bit less so I could do 2 muay thai sessoions daily instead of one.

    Private ground/MMA lesson only costs 8 euro a hour one on one!

    I guess, I would waste the extra bit of money going to Israel to get my KM to a higher level, just for something to do.

    Fly Lee Morrisson, Mick Coup and Geoff Thompson out each a few times a year for a week intensive training every 3 months!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭memphis


    With the the Euromillions jackpot heading for about €100m tonight... If I won i'd probably take off around the world to train, focusing on the whole culture and tradition of the MA style(s) in places like Korea, China, Japan, Thailand, etc. I'd also even hire a personal trainer, and buy a load of gym equipment to keep my fitness levels up.

    But then that's just a dream, right????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    This topic reminds me of my uncle, he owns a pub, a real oul lads place. Anyway, one day hes behind the bar with my Da and theres a couple of customers in, and they're doing the lotto syndicate. One of the oul boys says "D'ya know what? If I won the lotto, I'd buy a pub", without looking up my uncle says "Thats funny, if I won the lotto, I'd sell a pub".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭47MartialMan


    I would travel to other countries and meet other people.

    How much is a quid in US?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭gymrabbit


    ~2 dollars


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭47MartialMan


    Roper wrote:
    This topic reminds me of my uncle, he owns a pub, a real oul lads place. Anyway, one day hes behind the bar with my Da and theres a couple of customers in, and they're doing the lotto syndicate. One of the oul boys says "D'ya know what? If I won the lotto, I'd buy a pub", without looking up my uncle says "Thats funny, if I won the lotto, I'd sell a pub".

    Humorous.

    Amazing when people say upon winning a lotto that they desire to start a business.

    It would portend that with that amount of money, the thing to do is start a business.

    However, most people start a business to make money-the strive.

    If you have an aggregate of it, why be concerned with making it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 M.Gatzy


    If I won the lotto i'd build my own gym/dojo just for myself and get my personal trainer to teach me every day, get my black belt quicker and open my own line of M.A schools. When that is up and going I'd get full time instructors while i travell the M.A world and learn all i can. I'd come back then and settle down with my line of M.A schools.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭47MartialMan


    So the value of a black belt is how much money you can pay to obtain it quicker?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 859 ✭✭✭BobbyOLeary


    Ha ha, I was in the process of writing a rebuttle to the last post but it just hit me, why rise to it?:)

    Back on topic, I'd probably donate money to the EKKA, help with seminars and all that. I'd take a trip to Brasil to train over there, Thailand too and Japan. More than likely I'd just be able to train here on a more regular basis, train with coaches from all over the country, my new private jet could see to that! Though looking at the chances of winning the lotto now with the 3 new numbers its a bit of a pipe-dream!:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭47MartialMan


    With so much money, why bother with payng for other training?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 M.Gatzy


    So the value of a black belt is how much money you can pay to obtain it quicker?
    No, but the quicker i can get a black belt in one art the sooner i can move on and see what the M.A world has to offer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭john kavanagh


    M.Gatzy wrote:
    No, but the quicker i can get a black belt in one art the sooner i can move on and see what the M.A world has to offer

    you don't have to wait for a black belt to do that ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 859 ✭✭✭BobbyOLeary


    you don't have to wait for a black belt to do that ;)

    Exactly!! Get out there and give everything a go!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭soretoe


    With the new evolved understanding of functional, progressive and live martial arts training that's available out there (around the world in some clubs in some places..)and the easily accessible fitness and nutritional info (cross-training, paleo eating etc..) coupled with the bag loads of cage fighting and other DVDs that can be amassed relatively cheaply and easily - there seems to be no reason why anyone with the time (i.e. the financial security) and opportunity (cash/accessibility/age/health) could not turn themselves into a proper physical wrecking machine with good ground, clinch and striking game developed progressively along side great functional cardio development and explosive strength training.

    You could have it all now and relatively fast as well. You could go from zero to hero inside of 5 years I'd say. If you focused all your energy on the goal of becoming the best hand to hand fighter that you can possibly physically become and treated this challenge as a set of problems that can be overcome through a well thought out long term plan encompassing modern training/lifestyle/nutritional theories and tried and tested MMA disciplines such as Greco-roman wrestling, boxing/muaythai, Brazilian ju-jitsu, takedown/anti-takedown training, ground and pound and also fighting tactics then basically bar serious injury you could quite easily do just that.

    Your training advance would be limited by how fast you learn (which is different for us all), how natural/talented you find out you are and how much time you put into this training program (which will govern how fast you progress).

    There are basic concepts you would have to adhere to in order to give yourself the best opportunity of achieving the goal - such as allowing for appropriate rest, having access to the best practically available training in all the areas, motivation, realistic testing of progress (as practically possible). It's not rocket science to go and do this if you had buckets of cash and the interest and will to do it

    - There are enough talented instructors to guide you who would just love a 20,000 donation to their clubs equipment in return for private training. There are enough good nutritionists out there who'd love a retainer of 500 a month to watch and record and analyze and augment your notional needs as you progress in real-time helping you recover quicker and programming your metabolism in step with your training progression.

    There is enough mma competition material on DVD that could be analyzed by a team of appropriately qualified trainers/fighters/ex-fighters/managers to show in real live situations what moves would work for you in what situation and pick them out for you to watch and learn from, providing for easier visualization of moves and tactics.

    On the cardio subject you can use your imagination on how well that could potentially be developed when you think of that Russian dude in rocky 4 and then think of how much has been learned about cardio development in the last 100 years of olympics/boxing/wrestling/muay thai/military action/sports science/professional sports etc.. It seems that they could, with enough money turn you into a regular Duracell bunny capable of intense fighting in all ranges for 10/20/30 minutes ....

    but that brings us to the mental/nervous/adrenaline influenced side of things - how best to develop you as a true mixed fighter mentally? - there are shrinks, hypno people, Neuro-linguistic programming techniques, confidence training, life coaches, relative supplements/nutritional aids, fear management and aggression control training just to begin with.

    Now it's starting to sound like Universal Soldier - but that was the whole point of starting this little thread - how far could you push it given the chance - how far would you or someone else out there go?.......

    Here's the idea:
    The goal is to amass as many financially unlimited training tips/theories/elements/whatever you can think of to aid or mould or train a virtual normally sized/reasonable health/normally built/moderately intelligent human in a realistic Virtual Reality or hypothetical intellectual environment. Sort of like fantasy football except you start with a blank canvas of a normal young man/woman and end up with a self-actualized fighter given as much money as you need to achieve whatever you think an actualized freestyle fighter would be.

    For instance someone might comment :

    E.g. He should do weighted Hindu squats to help him strengthen his legs in a way that is relative to picking someone up and dumping them on their feckin head etc.. .
    ...progression taking open budget and a little imagination into account?
    - He should get the current power-lifting squat record holder in his weight group to come over to his purpose built training facility and show him how to train those muscles and how to adapt the action of the squat for exactly what he wishes to achieve, video the training, analyze it and critic it and go to your personal physios/nutritionists/bone persons and get hints on how eating/stretching/natural supplements and other exercises can support the development of an explosive squat strength base as part of an overall MMA physical make-up.....you see with an open budget and a big-picture realistic logical/science based framework you can really push the boundaries until it gets mental (and obviously too bloody serious ..)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭soretoe


    With the new evolved understanding of functional, progressive and live martial arts training that's available out there (around the world in some clubs in some places..)and the easily accessible fitness and nutritional info (cross-training, paleo eating etc..) coupled with the bag loads of cage fighting and other DVDs that can be amassed relatively cheaply and easily - there seems to be no reason why anyone with the time (i.e. the financial security) and opportunity (cash/accessibility/age/health) could not turn themselves into a proper physical wrecking machine with good ground, clinch and striking game developed progressively along side great functional cardio development and explosive strength training.

    You could have it all now and relatively fast as well. You could go from zero to hero inside of 5 years I'd say. If you focused all your energy on the goal of becoming the best hand to hand fighter that you can possibly physically become and treated this challenge as a set of problems that can be overcome through a well thought out long term plan encompassing modern training/lifestyle/nutritional theories and tried and tested MMA disciplines such as Greco-roman wrestling, boxing/muaythai, Brazilian ju-jitsu, takedown/anti-takedown training, ground and pound and also fighting tactics then basically bar serious injury you could quite easily do just that.

    Your training advance would be limited by how fast you learn (which is different for us all), how natural/talented you find out you are and how much time you put into this training program (which will govern how fast you progress).

    There are basic concepts you would have to adhere to in order to give yourself the best opportunity of achieving the goal - such as allowing for appropriate rest, having access to the best practically available training in all the areas, motivation, realistic testing of progress (as practically possible). It's not rocket science to go and do this if you had buckets of cash and the interest and will to do it

    - There are enough talented instructors to guide you who would just love a 20,000 donation to their clubs equipment in return for private training. There are enough good nutritionists out there who'd love a retainer of 500 a month to watch and record and analyze and augment your notional needs as you progress in real-time helping you recover quicker and programming your metabolism in step with your training progression.

    There is enough mma competition material on DVD that could be analyzed by a team of appropriately qualified trainers/fighters/ex-fighters/managers to show in real live situations what moves would work for you in what situation and pick them out for you to watch and learn from, providing for easier visualization of moves and tactics.

    On the cardio subject you can use your imagination on how well that could potentially be developed when you think of that Russian dude in rocky 4 and then think of how much has been learned about cardio development in the last 100 years of olympics/boxing/wrestling/muay thai/military action/sports science/professional sports etc.. It seems that they could, with enough money turn you into a regular Duracell bunny capable of intense fighting in all ranges for 10/20/30 minutes ....

    but that brings us to the mental/nervous/adrenaline influenced side of things - how best to develop you as a true mixed fighter mentally? - there are shrinks, hypno people, Neuro-linguistic programming techniques, confidence training, life coaches, relative supplements/nutritional aids, fear management and aggression control training just to begin with.

    Now it's starting to sound like Universal Soldier - but that was the whole point of starting this little thread - how far could you push it given the chance - how far would you or someone else out there go?.......

    Here's the idea:
    The goal is to amass as many financially unlimited training tips/theories/elements/whatever you can think of to aid or mould or train a virtual normally sized/reasonable health/normally built/moderately intelligent human in a realistic Virtual Reality or hypothetical intellectual environment. Sort of like fantasy football except you start with a blank canvas of a normal young man/woman and end up with a self-actualized fighter given as much money as you need to achieve whatever you think an actualized freestyle fighter would be.

    For instance someone might comment :

    E.g. He should do weighted Hindu squats to help him strengthen his legs in a way that is relative to picking someone up and dumping them on their feckin head etc.. .
    ...progression taking open budget and a little imagination into account?
    - He should get the current power-lifting squat record holder in his weight group to come over to his purpose built training facility and show him how to train those muscles and how to adapt the action of the squat for exactly what he wishes to achieve, video the training, analyze it and critic it and go to your personal physios/nutritionists/bone persons and get hints on how eating/stretching/natural supplements and other exercises can support the development of an explosive squat strength base as part of an overall MMA physical make-up.....you see with an open budget and a big-picture realistic logical/science based framework you can really push the boundaries until it gets mental (and obviously too bloody serious ..)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Off to Thailand with me. I'd give it everything I have to be a decent MT fighter before I get too old.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭47MartialMan


    There are other things that can be equally enjoyed with such mass amount of money than training.


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