Importing Guns?

-Strawbs-

Anyone know if you'd be able to bring back airsoft guns from somewhere like England in the hold of the plane? I mean now that theyre legal here and since you cant get at them while in the actual plane. Any hep appreciated. Cheers

o1s1n

as long as you declare them before you try and go through metal detectors! i remember years ago coming back from France as a kid, i had some pretty realistic looking toy guns. security took them off of me, pretended to shoot each other for a while, and then packed them away in little brown bags which said "not a firearm" in large letters.
im sure its possible to do the same with airsoft. i mean legally they are toys

Harekin

No thats not true. Legally they're no longer firearms, it doesnt mention them being toys tho. A knife isnt a firearm but it isnt a toy either. At the moment Airsoft is a grey area legally but in theory you should be fine.

Sparks

A knife isnt a firearm but it isnt a toy either.

No, but legally a knife is (well, depending on context) an offensive weapon under the 1990 Act. So it's not a good example.

Legally speaking, airsoft guns are not firearms and thus not subject to the Firearms Acts 1925-2006; that was the change in the law. The Firearms Acts do not define what a toy is, so they can't go saying that airsoft guns are legally toys - but airsoft guns are not covered by any other body of law so far as I am aware other than the obvious consumer stuff. So they can be sold as toys quite legally. Or commodities. Or household appliances (you can shoot a rat with one, so call it a vermin control device and stock it in the household section of Tesco if you want).

IronWolf

Be sure to check with your airline before you fly on what their policy is on replica firearms, not all airlines allow them.

o1s1n

for a while smyths were selling "toy" paintball guns. i bought one a matter of interest (plus someone was after telling me to nab one soon as they were being pulled from the shelves due to an accident)
i opened it up to take a peek inside and it had the exact same firing mechanism as my spinger. it was actually more powerful. 70% of the time the paint balls wouldnt burst, which resulted in quite a painful impact.it was also made of really good plastic construction. this thing was not meant to break. i actually couldnt believe it was in a childrens shop. i must find it. would love to see what it shows up on a chronograph. the paintballs were quite large and heavy, so itcould put it over the joule mark. hmm. illegal weapons in a childrens store. classified as toys. odd.

i really think the word toy should be left for specifically non lethal/damaging things. ive seen airsoft refered to a toy in several places. bad, bad idea.

Sparks

i really think the word toy should be left for specifically non lethal/damaging things

Good luck finding any physical object that you could apply that label to in this universe...

o1s1n

you know what i mean!
projectile firing mechanisms shouldnt be sold as toys. well, maybe those little guns that fire plastic suction darts, but thats it!

Zulu

Is it cool to buy them on-line and have them shipped to you?

o1s1n

yes, yes it is.

get buying!!

-Strawbs-

Ok...... Thanks for that but i just remembered the time i was going to America a few years ago, and somehow a broken cap gun got into my luggage. The security went crazy and nearly kept me from going on the flight. It isnt very reasurring seeing as the gun couldnt fire anything and was in the hold. Not so sure about bringing an airsoft gun back now. :mad:

o1s1n

well, the difference there is, you didnt declare it beforehand. that added with the fact that you were on a plane to America? just asking for trouble!

Sparks

o1s1n wrote:

projectile firing mechanisms shouldnt be sold as toys.

I think Nerf would beg to differ with you

o1s1n

Nerf?! that's firearms certificate grade weaponry right there.

jesus i havent see/heard anything about them in years.i always wanted one of them as a kid. ads seemed so cool....
they still in production?

http://www.hasbro.com/nerf/

it appears so!

liamo333

Brought one back from france and there was no problem.

-Strawbs-

Nerf, God, forgot all about them. They didnt have much range doubt they will be terrorists new weapons of choice :rolleyes:

joebhoy1916

This might be stupid but are pellet guns Airsoft guns? Or is that just the guns that fire BB's?

Harekin

Well it depends. Generally if you see it on the news its an "airgun", airsoft guns however are called "pellet guns" by imbred little scum-bags.

joebhoy1916

Harekin wrote:

Well it depends. Generally if you see it on the news its an "airgun", airsoft guns however are called "pellet guns" by imbred little scum-bags.

Trying to say something?

Well I thought airsoft guns were the **** things that shoot plastic BB's.

So pellet guns aint illegal? The type of ones that shoot real pellets?

liamo333

As long as they dont have more than 1joule of power.

Rovi

joebhoy1916 wrote:

So pellet guns aint illegal? The type of ones that shoot real pellets?

Yes, they're perfectly legal. As they'll be over the 1 Joule power limit though, they must be licenced just like any other firearm.

-Strawbs-

Harekin wrote:

airsoft guns however are called "pellet guns" by imbred little scum-bags.

Well said! .....No offence to anyone

whupass

well actually when i'm explaining to my friend what they are i say
"AIRSOFT GUNS ARE F$%^ING SCHMAD!!!!!" and when they go
"What?" i say
"*ahem* sorry, you know those pellet gun yokes? Yea? Well the sh!ty spring things like those are airsoft guns, but you can get really good machine gun and gas ones!!!"

so you see, most people don't know what airsoft is, but they do know what the "pellet" guns they saw in spain are

o1s1n

well generally if im explaining it to someone, i'll compare it to paintball. or use "bb guns". i never use the term pellet gun. simply because "morally just" idiotic news paper writers love to use it.

ie;

http://www.unison.ie/drogheda_independent/stories.php3?ca=34&si=1282837&issue_id=11660

"Deadly Kalashnikov pellet guns arrive
By Jimmy Cunningham
DEADLY Kalashnikov style pellet guns have arrived in Drogheda and its surrounding areas in recent weeks, the Drogheda Independent can reveal.
Last week high velocity pellets shattered a number of double glazed windows in a housing estate in Duleek causing thousands of euros in damage.
The guns, with nightscopes are reputedly being sold across the border for up E300 per weapon.
The weapons can shoot a variety of ammunition including ball bearings at up to 100 m/s from an 18-slot magazine.
Gardaí have warned the guns are lethal in the wrong hands and have urged parents not to buy such guns as Christmas gifts.
The guns, which are identical in shape, design and weight to the real thing are being used by some criminals for intimidation purposes.



"The guns, with nightscopes"....what's so dangerous about a nightscope?!

Sparks

high velocity pellets shattered a number of double glazed windows

Am I the only one that thinks that an airsoft gun would not be physically capable of this?

(BTW, nightvision scopes are constituent parts of firearms and require a licence under the firearms acts.)

o1s1n

what if they were using steel bbs? hmm. maybe this is once again, the newspapers getting confused between airsoft weapons and airguns. that can be blamed on the term "pellet gun".
it must be cast off and never used again!

annoying, that

nightvision scopes require a firearms cert? so no night time skirmishing then? awh!

Miscreant

Hmmmm, shattering double glazed windows eh? I have point blank shot one of the windows in my house (double glazed PVC windows) and the bbs just pinged off. Made a hell of a racket and didn't impress the missus but I didn't have to get the glazer in to replace the window! The media are prone to hyperbolae anyway. I would say that this Kalashnikov style pellet gun was just that, a PELLET gun firing metal ball bearings. Those things are lethal and in this day and age I figure anyone brandishing such a weapon (even an airsoft one) in public deserves to be tazered (spelling?) or shot. COrrect me if I am wrong.

Sparks

Even with steel BBs. Seriously, double glazing has to have a device built into it to allow it to be broken in the event of fire because it's so strong.

And yes, nightvision scopes need a cert. Night vision goggles, however, do not.

o1s1n

theres no way a plastic bb would do anything to a window. even a high powered airsoft gun wouldnt mark it. the bb just shatters.

although, if you're ever plinking indoors, make sure there are no lighters around. yesterday one of my shots happened to rebound and hit one. the thing exploded, sending shards of plastic all over my room. scared the life out of me.

whupass

it is a crime to brandish something and make people think it is a gun, even a banana! if they think it's the real thing you're going to jail

o1s1n

http://www.wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/product.asp?page=product&id=29PTLMZNDERB

sh!te, there goes that idea

whupass

haha that's brilliantT they should make one of them.