Truck going up Knockmaroon Hill this morning at 6:40am

fletch

Does anybody know did he make it up? It was a full on 40 foot truck! :eek:

kippy

Three questions:
Where is this place you speak of?
Is there a road up the hill?
Why would a 40 foot truck be going up it?

fletch

kippy wrote:

Three questions:
Where is this place you speak of?
Is there a road up the hill?
Why would a 40 foot truck be going up it?

Knockmaroon Hill is a narrow little hill that connects Castleknock and Chapelizod. It is very steep, very narrow and very busy. At the top of a hill is a walk-way across the road and I'm not sure he would have made it under it, meaning he would have had to reverse down the hill! :eek:
In response to your last question, my guess is that he was a foreign driver and didn't know the hill and was possibly even directed by a sat nav system up the hill!

kippy

Cheers Fletch,
Good to have some background info for those of us not familiar with the area.

godtabh

fletch wrote:

Does anybody know did he make it up? It was a full on 40 foot truck! :eek:

Where was he coming from if he was driving up from it? If he came across the Liffey and took a left at the school I dont think he would've made it around the bend.

If he was coming from town he must have been lost.

If he didnt make it under the walk way he'd have to reverse all the way back past the school as there is no were for a 40ft truck to turn on that road.

Who ever he was he should been banned from Irish roads

fletch

kearnsr wrote:

Where was he coming from if he was driving up from it? If he came across the Liffey and took a left at the school I dont think he would've made it around the bend.

If he was coming from town he must have been lost.

If he didnt make it under the walk way he'd have to reverse all the way back past the school as there is no were for a 40ft truck to turn on that road.

Who ever he was he should been banned from Irish roads

Gave me a bit of entertainment this morning I have to say....I was just thanking God I encountered him early enough cause traffic was startin to backup pretty quick....
But yeh if people know that road, they'll know its barely wide enough for two cars to pass each other so why anyone would have contemplated taking a truck down the road!

godtabh

fletch wrote:

why anyone would have contemplated taking a truck down the road!

As as been said I dont think he was a local. But there is signs up every where warning people about that road.

DerekP11

There's a 3 tonne weight restriction on that road for the last 25 years or so. Its well sign posted. If the driver was from abroad, its refreshing to know that its not just the Irish that ignore road signage.

Wishbone Ash

fletch wrote:

It was a full on 40 foot truck! :eek:

If it was a standard articulated combination, it would have been about 55 feet (tractor unit + semi-trailer).

Most trailers are now 13.6 metres (45 feet) although they are still continually referred to as '40 footers'.

Wishbone Ash

DerekP11 wrote:

There's a 3 tonne weight restriction on that road

Although not relevant in this example, a 3 tonne weight restriction does not apply if the driver is making a delivery and has no alternative route.

DerekP11

Wishbone Ash wrote:

Although not relevant in this example, a 3 tonne weight restriction does not apply if the driver is making a delivery and has no alternative route.

The signs do not say, "except for access" either. So looks like we all agree it was a major balls up by the driver.

godtabh

What would he have to deliver up there?

There is nothing I can think that would need a big truck up there.

By any chance did any one catch his reg?

He could'v ebeen chancing his arm thinking he wouldnt meet any one on the way up

Wishbone Ash

DerekP11 wrote:

The signs do not say, "except for access" either.

None of the 3 tonne signs that I'm aware of say "except for access". It is something that drivers of large vehicles would know and it is a common question in truck driving tests: "When can you enter a 3 tonne restricted zone?"

kearnsr wrote:

What would he have to deliver up there? There is nothing I can think that would need a big truck up there.

He wasn't delivering anything. I was just making the point that a 3 tonne restricted access area does not necessarily prohibit all vehicles over 3 tonnes from entering. This road is different as it would be physically impossible anyway for the truck to get through regardless of whether it has an exemption or not.

fletch

So does anybody know if he actually made it up the hill or not? I presume he did seeing as he would have caused mayhen reversing back down and I didn't hear anything about it on the traffic reports.

Wishbone Ash

fletch wrote:

So does anybody know if he actually made it up the hill or not? I presume he did seeing as he would have caused mayhen reversing back down and I didn't hear anything about it on the traffic reports.

A truck had to reverse back down on 9th March 2005 causing a lot of delays.

godtabh

Wishbone Ash wrote:

None of the 3 tonne signs that I'm aware of say "except for access". It is something that drivers of large vehicles would know and it is a common question in truck driving tests: "When can you enter a 3 tonne restricted zone?"


He wasn't delivering anything. I was just making the point that a 3 tonne restricted access area does not necessarily prohibit all vehicles over 3 tonnes from entering. This road is different as it would be physically impossible anyway for the truck to get through regardless of whether it has an exemption or not.

I was commenting on the no 3 tonne signs except for access. Just wondering if this was true where could he have been delivering

Wishbone Ash

kearnsr wrote:

I was commenting on the no 3 tonne signs except for access. Just wondering if this was true where could he have been delivering

Possibly but unlikely. I'm not overly familiar with this road but from what I remember, it would be very unsuitable for large vehicles.

godtabh

Wishbone Ash wrote:

Possibly but unlikely. I'm not overly familiar with this road but from what I remember, it would be very unsuitable for large vehicles.

Unless traffic was stopped both ends a truck of that size would find it difficult to get up it.

Ham'nd'egger

I won't say anything pro or anti in this idiot's defence, but for a motorist to get from Chapelizod to, say Castleknock village, there is 3 main options

1) Palmserstown By Pass, M 50 Toll Bridge, and either N 3 and Blanch Village or Peck lane to Castleknock.
2) Down to Kingsbridge, Stoneybatter, Navan Road, Racecourse to Castleknock

Or 3) And up Knockmaroon Hill and save miles and ages on a journey. Anybody who knows this hill knows it's a strain to a car at the best of times let alone a truck but if you don't know it, it's the short route between two local points on a street map, Weight Limit or no Weight Limit.

As to where it may have been going to drop a load, there is two schools nearby or it could have been accessing the local hotel in Porterstown. Just a though, that's all.

godtabh

Hamndegger wrote:

I won't say anything pro or anti in this idiot's defence, but for a motorist to get from Chapelizod to, say Castleknock village, there is 3 main options

1) Palmserstown By Pass, M 50 Toll Bridge, and either N 3 and Blanch Village or Peck lane to Castleknock.
2) Down to Kingsbridge, Stoneybatter, Navan Road, Racecourse to Castleknock

Or 3) And up Knockmaroon Hill and save miles and ages on a journey. Anybody who knows this hill knows it's a strain to a car at the best of times let alone a truck but if you don't know it, it's the short route between two local points on a street map, Weight Limit or no Weight Limit.

As to where it may have been going to drop a load, there is two schools nearby or it could have been accessing the local hotel in Porterstown. Just a though, that's all.

There is one thing some one in a car doing this route but totaly different for a truck.

There are rules on the road for a reason and the sooner the better

Ham'nd'egger

kearnsr wrote:

There is one thing some one in a car doing this route but totaly different for a truck.

There are rules on the road for a reason and the sooner the better

Agreed with you, sadly every now and again, some chancer has to have go at some silly manouver.

godtabh

The odd concrete truck used to go up and dwon there when them apartments in the old village were being built. I used to wonder how somehting that heavy and big would get up there.

Mr CJ

Can anyone shed some light on these mysterious 3 Tonne restriction signs as they confuse me.

For example the hill mentioned above has none of these signs on the way down (possibly more dangerous) but has them on the way up so a 3 tonne (or over) vehicle is allowed to be on this road, is this restriction simply there as they assume HGVs cannot get up the hill?

Other times I see these signs and I have seen vehicles way over 3 tonnes on them and even buses which I assume are over 3 tonne?

Is the above down to the fact that everyone just ignores these signs and that they are never enforced?

mikemac

Is that the hill in Chapelizod Village with a signs for "cars only"?

Very, very steep

Mr CJ

feelingstressed wrote: »

Is that the hill in Chapelizod Village with a signs for "cars only"?

Very, very steep

No, thats the road which goes under N4 Dual Carriage way leading into Balleyfermot, Knockmaroon hill is the windy steep hill going towards castleknock that goes under small foot bridge.

foggy_lad

the signs on this road are to stop toll dodging lorries from using the hill as a rat run

paddyland

Has anyone cared to check the date of the OP's post...?

Mr CJ

Off topic...

yes I know its an old post, done a search and this came up so I thought id ask the question in this rather than starting a new one... big brother does not like someone starting new threads if similur ones exist