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youthacademy

last year two attempted rapes on campus, student areas in Castletroy broken into nightly, brawl in elm park last week. the place has gone fcukin mad, anyone any experience of this lately in the area?

rmacm

Not really no, I've never had any trouble around here aside from the odd scumbag shouting obcenities out of his car while passing. Castletroy is no worse than any other part of the country. There was a load of breakins last year but I didn't hear of any over the summer or in recent weeks. The only thing that's happened recently (to my knowledge) was the fight/break in in Elm Park.

Cheers
Rory

cooperguy

I feel safer here than most places. At the end of the day if you have 14000 people together (and thats not including staff and residents of castletroy) in the one area there is going to be one or two incidents. And by the way places arnt being broken into "nightly"

440Hz

As a girlie I dont feel very safe here. I wouldnt even think about walking on my own once it gets dark. Having said that I woulndt have done that in UCC or Tralee either. I think the area here is badly lit though, and some parts are just really dodgy at night.

kaimera

Meh, a bit hullabaloo about nothing tbh.

Two attepmted rapes over the course of a year?
Bah, two too many realy but enough to get worked up over? I dunno.

Perhaps for girlies it's a tad dangerous but the issue had been addressed by the college before I thought.

Walk in the lights young padewans...

440Hz

kaimera wrote:

Walk in the lights young padewans...

When you can find the lights!!

Oohh so philosophical.. walk towards the lights... seek and you shall find!

(and well, if you dont, you can always pick up a roadsign that will protect you on your walk home)

Peteee

youthacademy wrote:

last year two attempted rapes on campus, student areas in Castletroy broken into nightly, brawl in elm park last week. the place has gone fcukin mad, anyone any experience of this lately in the area?

I hardly think there are breakins every night!

With 14,000 people around not every one is going to get along!

I've seen pig cars driving around College Court the last few nights.

Just be glad they got rid of the cream crackers up by the parkway!

kaimera

Peteee wrote:

Just be glad they got rid of the cream crackers up by the parkway!

Ehh..that's hardly the most PC now is it Peter?

and no, they didn't, they moved to a diff place :eek:

missgwish

UL is way safer than most areas in the city, i lived in cahirdavin (by LIT) for the past 2 yrs and it was hell! can't go walkin around durin the day, never mind at night. i may be only a newbie in UL but it seems way friendlier, and there's no scobes that i've seen anyway. thumbs up!

Peteee

kaimera wrote:

Ehh..that's hardly the most PC now is it Peter?

and no, they didn't, they moved to a diff place :eek:

No, it's not very PC!

Different place, as long as its far away from UL

bluedolphin

Ah now. Down with that sort of...branding. It's not that bad at all - no worse than any other part of the country in which many students reside together. Yes, there were a considerable number of robberies in the College Court area during the last academic year, but cause of these incidents has been tracked down and been dealt with accordingly.

As a person who actually hails from Limerick city itself (rather than just a blow-in for four years ), I can reassure you that Castletroy is a very safe area when compared to some other areas that have been neglected by the city council and are rampant with anti-social behaviour. Castletroy is most definitely considered one of the "better" areas of Limerick.

No place in which people reside alongside each other will ever be completely free from any sort of crime. But don't let one bad apple spoil the lot.

Aero787

440Hz wrote:

As a girlie I dont feel very safe here. I wouldnt even think about walking on my own once it gets dark. Having said that I woulndt have done that in UCC or Tralee either. I think the area here is badly lit though, and some parts are just really dodgy at night.

Ah now UCC is very safe although I suppose it's a bit close to the 'Hane and Togher for some peoples' liking. I dunno, I feel very safe around that area even at night. Maybe it's different if you have known the place for more than 3/4 years.

homerjay2005

no area is totally safe,be it out in the country or in the city. any woman that walks anywhere on her own is totally daft,it just shouldnt happen.

castletroy in general is decent area, but there are scumbags, non students(and locals residents), that think there the bees knees and think they can do what they want. the cops blame the students of being the cause, when its the locals waaas that are the thugs.

bubblicious

When I was in 2nd year, living in College Court, there was an attempted rape about 50 yards from my front door...It happened on a Sunday night, around 7.30p.m.....and no-one heard anything...

For weeks after that, I was sooo freaked out...even walking to college at 2p.m. or 3p.m. during the day!!

I was in Dublin on co-op since Feb, and often walked home by myself. Stupid, I know, but when drink is involved, we all gain a bit of dutch courage...

Is it wrong that I felt safer walking home in Dublin than Limerick??!

Peteee

bubblicious wrote:

When I was in 2nd year, living in College Court, there was an attempted rape about 50 yards from my front door...It happened on a Sunday night, around 7.30p.m.....and no-one heard anything...

Ah, 'Attachgate' rears it's head again! It never goes away!

For weeks after that, I was sooo freaked out...even walking to college at 2p.m. or 3p.m. during the day!!

I was in Dublin on co-op since Feb, and often walked home by myself. Stupid, I know, but when drink is involved, we all gain a bit of dutch courage...

Is it wrong that I felt safer walking home in Dublin than Limerick??!

Depends on where in Dublin you were. I was in Blackrock for my co-op and I felt safe walking home from the pub at 1 in the morning

440Hz

Aero787 wrote:

Ah now UCC is very safe although I suppose it's a bit close to the 'Hane and Togher for some peoples' liking. I dunno, I feel very safe around that area even at night. Maybe it's different if you have known the place for more than 3/4 years.

I have known that area most of my life. Its not the worst but you certainly wouldnt walk around on your own late at night either.

bubblicious

I was living just off camden street...fair enough, I know I didn't have to walk that far from most of the pubs and clubs, but I was living near the canal as well...kinda spooky when you're sober, but grand when you're drunk!!

also....4th year stinks!

Peck

You can't simply lable a place as dangerous. Fires dangerous if your not careful. If your smart youll never walk anywhere at night on your own. Eve if you are a first year fella thinking your all macho being a "man" and all. its dangerous for anyone walking alone at night in any college/city/county/dublin. Staying safe is just a bit of common sense.

chubba1984

I spent 4 years in UL and walked many places on my own during that time. I used to like goin for a stroll in de dark, especially around exam time, good for gettin my thoughts together and never once did I get even shouted at by a drunk, let alone attacked. I lived in Dublin for co-op and no bother there either. Too much emphesis is placed on the slim possibility of trouble but in my experience a lot of it is unwarranted.

Amazotheamazing

Happens on every campus afaik, hell, there was an armed robbery on the bank in NUIG during the week!

However, it could be safer.

bubblicious

it definitely could be safer..but if we didn't take risks with our own safety, such as walking home alone at night, putting ourselves in such dangerous situations, then making the place safer (although always a good thing) wouldn't be as big an issue...however, all that's well and good in theory, but in reality, it's not the case...some people (like me!) are always gonna put themselves in these sits...esp after drink...(personally after drink!!)

at least there's the free night link in U.L.....

bounceymousey

i dont feel very safe living close to rape valley. (The little dirt track between college court and campus). Our house is too big and empty felling for 5 people.

eauclaire

hmmmm... so what you're all saying is that girls should pretty much not walk anywhere on their own at night?

seeing as though i've never been to ul before, and i'll be living in kilmurry, is that slightly safe since it's nearer to campus than off-campus housing?

missgwish

depends on where ya walk, if you have your wits about ya and who your with, same as anywhere really.

ergonomics

Was walking home from work this evening at about 8.30. My friend was cycling down behind me as I left before her and as she cycled by this guy cycling in the opposite direction punched her for no reason. What the hell like? It's things like that that make me afraid to walk around at night. This was along the Dublin road, it was relatively early and the road was still busy. People don't give a crap at all.

missgwish

ergonomics wrote:

Was walking home from work this evening at about 8.30. My friend was cycling down behind me as I left before her and as she cycled by this guy cycling in the opposite direction punched her for no reason. What the hell like? It's things like that that make me afraid to walk around at night. This was along the Dublin road, it was relatively early and the road was still busy. People don't give a crap at all.

yea that sux, some people can be real ****s. remember that we limerickians are not all bad! in fact most of us are quite pleasant!

440Hz

ergonomics wrote:

Was walking home from work this evening at about 8.30. My friend was cycling down behind me as I left before her and as she cycled by this guy cycling in the opposite direction punched her for no reason. What the hell like? It's things like that that make me afraid to walk around at night. This was along the Dublin road, it was relatively early and the road was still busy. People don't give a crap at all.

OMG! that is horrific. What a **** urgh... this makes me sooo mad. and im already cross :mad:

Is your friend ok? did she report it? anything happen?

Peteee

What the hell.

I can understand gangsters and what not killing each other (They can do what they lke) but it's random crap like the above that gets me :mad:

in fact most of us are quite pleasant!

Most indeed. Minority wanted to spoil it for the rest of us

ergonomics

She didn't report it and neither of us got a good look at him. She is OK, but was very angry at the time. Thankfully she only had a dead arm, I say thankfully cause the punch could have easily made her swerve into traffic or she could have fallen. I've started bringing my rape alarm everywhere with me because people are so random like that. If anything happens like that again no matter how minor I will make sure the other person reports it and if they don't I will.

missgwish: Don't worry, I won't tar you all with the same brush! I know quite a lot of Limerick people and I find them all lovely.

missgwish

ergonomics wrote:

She didn't report it and neither of us got a good look at him. She is OK, but was very angry at the time. Thankfully she only had a dead arm, I say thankfully cause the punch could have easily made her swerve into traffic or she could have fallen. I've started bringing my rape alarm everywhere with me because people are so random like that. If anything happens like that again no matter how minor I will make sure the other person reports it and if they don't I will.

missgwish: Don't worry, I won't tar you all with the same brush! I know quite a lot of Limerick people and I find them all lovely.

yay no tar!

Funkstard

Walking back to Thomond tonight, there was a Garda van parked on the grass after Drumroe, with what I think was a garda and a sniffer dog walking around. Anyone know what the story was?

cornbb

I remember seeing the same thing at the same place around a year ago. Weird. Maybe he's trying to bust students smoking Js around campus or something. Which would be a bit pathetic if you ask me!

Kernunos

Well i graduated just last year and i definately thik that the area has gone downhill in the last few years. There used to be the feeling that you lived in the 'Castletroy Bubble', but recently i am hearing a lot more stuff going on. I know of two of my friends who were broken into in College court last year, guys would roam around the estate during the day checking if houses were empty and break in if they were. I lived in Briarfield during the Summer and i a frend of mine had her car broken into and over the course of a few weeks nearly all her housemates suffered the same. I know of peoples houses who were broken into while they were still there and i am starting to notice goups of scoobs hanging around. Even as a guy i am starting to feel uncomfortable walking around on my own at night and thik i had a few lucky escapes that could have gone badly if i were alone. I think the scumbags have figured that an entire area populated my middle-classes bums/students living away from home but with lots of Mp3 players, consoled and computers in their houses are just too much of a target.

missgwish

2 mates of mine were in the livin room of their house in college court, someone came into the house, went up the stairs and took a laptop, then went into the bedroom off the kitchen and took another laptop, left through the front door and was never caught. middle of the day, the guys weren't drinkin or anythin, jus watchin tv! ****ed up i tells ya.

ergonomics

Was coming home from town on Wednesday at about 6 and as the bus pulled away from the bus stop somebody threw something hard at the window and it shattered. Thankfully the window stayed in the frame, otherwise it could have been a lot worse. In a way I can see the mentality behind robbing and mugging - get some stuff and sell it for more money or whatever but vandalism is pointless! I'd say a brick was thrown at the bus window, if it had gone threw the poor girl beside the window would be in hospital now, she could even have died. If the window had caved in with the brick people would have got cut from the glass. It's just unbelieveably stupid and dangerous.


Note: I don't approve of robbing or mugging at all, I can just understand why people do it. That said, there are people who do it for the fun of it.

missgwish

ergonomics wrote:

Was coming home from town on Wednesday at about 6 and as the bus pulled away from the bus stop somebody threw something hard at the window and it shattered. Thankfully the window stayed in the frame, otherwise it could have been a lot worse. In a way I can see the mentality behind robbing and mugging - get some stuff and sell it for more money or whatever but vandalism is pointless! I'd say a brick was thrown at the bus window, if it had gone threw the poor girl beside the window would be in hospital now, she could even have died. If the window had caved in with the brick people would have got cut from the glass. It's just unbelieveably stupid and dangerous.


Note: I don't approve of robbing or mugging at all, I can just understand why people do it. That said, there are people who do it for the fun of it.

the obvious answer is simple ........ some people are dicks!

5uspect

I've been here in UL about 6-7 years now (I know, I'm stuck here ) and I have noticed a general decline alright. One of the reasons I've heard for this is the increase in social housing in parts of Castletroy such as Curragh Birin and adjoining areas. A lot of scumbag families have supposedly been put in houses here.

I've heard stories of scumbag kids attacking taxis with hammers, friends being attacked while walking home at night (I've had stones thrown at me at night walking home from the shop by some very young scumy kids which is just plain sad). There is the increase in break ins in the campus car parks and the campus buildings also. Some female French students we had over had some lads flash them while they walked home one night (could have been much worse and we had warned them not to walk alone at night). I see a Garda car out in Curragh Birin nearly every day, something I never saw 4 years ago.

So I'm going to be very unPC and say that the problem is with all the scumbags that have been dumped in social housing in Castletroy in recent years, yes there was always rapes and break ins but some of the stuff going on at the moment is caused directly by these people.

Now thats my rant over

justfortherecor

True, it does seem that crime here has risen proportionally with the increasing number of scumbags coming to the area.

However, some of the more high profile cases involving break-ins around UL have involved students as well. Remember the case of the 3 students caught thieving houses this year?

5uspect

Of course there are students up to no good in UL I won't deny that, but if they do that they're just scumbags too. University is open to more and more people today and pretty much anyone can get into college. This is a great thing but you'll inevitability get people who for what ever reasons just want to cause trouble.

Amazotheamazing

I might be wrong, but does anyone else think the City council are dumping (literally) some of their problem tenants out in the county?

realismpol

5uspect wrote: »

I've been here in UL about 6-7 years now (I know, I'm stuck here ) and I have noticed a general decline alright. One of the reasons I've heard for this is the increase in social housing in parts of Castletroy such as Curragh Birin and adjoining areas. A lot of scumbag families have supposedly been put in houses here.

I've heard stories of scumbag kids attacking taxis with hammers, friends being attacked while walking home at night (I've had stones thrown at me at night walking home from the shop by some very young scumy kids which is just plain sad). There is the increase in break ins in the campus car parks and the campus buildings also. Some female French students we had over had some lads flash them while they walked home one night (could have been much worse and we had warned them not to walk alone at night). I see a Garda car out in Curragh Birin nearly every day, something I never saw 4 years ago.

So I'm going to be very unPC and say that the problem is with all the scumbags that have been dumped in social housing in Castletroy in recent years, yes there was always rapes and break ins but some of the stuff going on at the moment is caused directly by these people.

Now thats my rant over

i'll second this castletroy has gone totally downhill. It used to be an upscale middle to upper class area with no scumbags in it whatsoever. But now the place is full of scumbags. Sure we used to have problems with rowdy students but now its turned into a semi scumbag area. I was walking down the church way today and seen this total scumbag taking a leak right out in the open on the raod. When i looked over at him as if to drop the hint 'what the hell are you doing you total scumbag' he just stared back like he wanted to start a fight. All the way back he kept staring back to start a fight. And this was on the main road where everyone could see. I blame the county council or housing authorities for moving these scumbags into an area which was middle class and giving these people rent allowance. You can take the criminal out of an area but you can't take the criminal out of a person.

Stupid liberal idiots we have in this country.

5uspect

realismpol wrote: »

i'll second this castletroy has gone totally downhill. It used to be an upscale middle to upper class area with no scumbags in it whatsoever. But now the place is full of scumbags. Sure we used to have problems with rowdy students but now its turned into a semi scumbag area. I was walking down the church way today and seen this total scumbag taking a leak right out in the open on the raod. When i looked over at him as if to drop the hint 'what the hell are you doing you total scumbag' he just stared back like he wanted to start a fight. All the way back he kept staring back to start a fight. And this was on the main road where everyone could see. I blame the county council or housing authorities for moving these scumbags into an area which was middle class and giving these people rent allowance. You can take the criminal out of an area but you can't take the criminal out of a person.

Stupid liberal idiots we have in this country.

Well I would be pretty much liberal. But the problem isn't solved by spreading the mess thinner.

sceptre

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