Hand from boards monthly game

eoghan104

I had just lost 40% of my stack on a set of 8s being beaten by veras set of queens and am down to 6000 chips. Blinds are 150/300 and an early position player (8,000 stack) makes it 600 to go. I call with 67diamonds and the big blind(15,000 stack) is the only other caller.

Flop Ah Jd 4d

Big blind bets out 2,000...... original raiser calls....... whats my move here?

Anyone push here?

All comments good or bad very welcome.

P.S does the big blind in this hand post here? table 7 seat 3...... knocked out Luckylloyd????

El Stuntman

eoghan104 wrote:

P.S does the big blind in this hand post here? table 7 seat 3...... knocked out Luckylloyd????

that'd be Cardshark

eoghan104

Yeh just read llyods post and realised that!! well done on cashing by the way! any opinions on the above?

El Stuntman

I'd let it go with 2 players showing strength in front and a non-nut draw

eoghan104

Yeh it was a bit of a rush of blood all right! If i had your patience id be a much better player!!

cardshark202

I would have folded preflop. Calling for almost 10% of your stack with suited connectors is generally not good.
As you called preflop, I think the push is pretty good as most players fold most hands. However I had a sick read and felt you were flushing with KQdd or something like that. The only hand you could have that I was afraid of was 44 but I figured if that was the case so be it.

eoghan104

cardshark202 wrote:

I would have folded preflop. Calling for almost 10% of your stack with suited connectors is generally not good.
As you called preflop, I think the push is pretty good as most players fold most hands. However I had a sick read and felt you were flushing with KQdd or something like that. The only hand you could have that I was afraid of was 44 but I figured if that was the case so be it.

I didnt think the preflop call was that bad because i was kinda bulling after the previous hand and because it was a min raise i put him on a big hand and thought that if i hit the flop i might get a easy double up to get back in the game. In hindsight it was a bad play all round and to be honest it may be partly due to the fact that im not used to playing such deep stacked tourneys and i need to work on my dicipline and patience a bit.

cardshark202

eoghan104 wrote:

I didnt think the preflop call was that bad because i was kinda bulling after the previous hand and because it was a min raise i put him on a big hand and thought that if i hit the flop i might get a easy double up to get back in the game. In hindsight it was a bad play all round and to be honest it may be partly due to the fact that im not used to playing such deep stacked tourneys and i need to work on my dicipline and patience a bit.

The problem with the call is that neither the pot odds or the implied odds are there for you with that type of hand, especially if you put UTG on a monster. The reason being that you have to outflop him.

smurph

Sorry for jumping in here but would like some feedback on my exit hand. Didn't want to start up a seperate thread cause its not really interesting enough.

Blinds are 100 200 and it's made 500 from ep, 3 callers so far. Im one from the button and i look down at Ac3c. Decide to call, to see a flop (I know limp city but sure f*ck it). Flop comes 10c 7h 7c check check check to me, I bet 2K into the pot with flush draw, fold, fold, last player left dwells a little, then calls. Turn is 4c he checks, I bet 3.5K, he re-raises all in. I instacall, he turns over 4h4s for house of fours. He apologies and then says that he knew i had none of the flop, so I connect with the only club to crucify me. Fair enough, pack up gear and tilt some money off on the cash games...

I read somewhere don't know if it was in a poker book or some article in a magazine that the pots you lose the most money in is the ones you should never have limped into in the first place.

The exact betting amounts are a bit sketchy but so forgive me. I was quite annoyed with myself for limping in the first place (although i thought his call on the flop was a bit iffy). Any comments appreciated. I was kinda disappointed because I would like to have stayed longer in the tournament. Great structure and it was great to meet up with people.

eoghan104

smurph wrote:

Sorry for jumping in here but would like some feedback on my exit hand. Didn't want to start up a seperate thread cause its not really interesting enough.

Blinds are 100 200 and it's made 500 from ep, 3 callers so far. Im one from the button and i look down at Ac3c. Decide to call, to see a flop (I know limp city but sure f*ck it). Flop comes 10c 7h 7c check check check to me, I bet 2K into the pot with flush draw, fold, fold, last player left dwells a little, then calls. Turn is 4c he checks, I bet 3.5K, he re-raises all in. I instacall, he turns over 4h4s for house of fours. He apologies and then says that he knew i had none of the flop, so I connect with the only club to crucify me. Fair enough, pack up gear and tilt some money off on the cash games...

I read somewhere don't know if it was in a poker book or some article in a magazine that the pots you lose the most money in is the ones you should never have limped into in the first place.

The exact betting amounts are a bit sketchy but so forgive me. I was quite annoyed with myself for limping in the first place (although i thought his call on the flop was a bit iffy). Any comments appreciated. I was kinda disappointed because I would like to have stayed longer in the tournament. Great structure and it was great to meet up with people.

thats just ul in fairness smurph. your right that you shouldnt have limped but thats a seriousley iffy call with the 44 and you were just unlucky that was the club that came!

boba_fett3099

What was your stack size smurph? I assume its in the 6-7k range. In that case i think a limp is fine since its only 200 and your not likely to lose much (i hope) if you flop top pair or something. As the hand played out you were ul but i limp here with suited aces, suited connectors or small pp's every time.

Oh and as for OP i agree with cardshark that you should not have called this raise at all as you only have 20bbs and you have to put in 10% of your stack with a weak hand against a raiser with a narrow range, so your implied odds are not exactly great.

Ste05

Limps fine. Big problem is betting your draw on a paired board. Never a good idea.

OP, PF call isn't great, as Cardshark says you don't have the proper pot or implied odds, also a push here is marginal.

fuzzbox

Ste05 wrote:

Limps fine. Big problem is betting your draw on a paired board. Never a good idea.

Rubbish

ocallagh

cardshark202 wrote:

I would have folded preflop. Calling for almost 10% of your stack with suited connectors is generally not good.
As you called preflop, I think the push is pretty good as most players fold most hands. However I had a sick read and felt you were flushing with KQdd or something like that. The only hand you could have that I was afraid of was 44 but I figured if that was the case so be it.

what did u call with?

cardshark202

ocallagh wrote:

what did u call with?

I was in the BB so it was only 1BB more. I had AJo

Goodluck2me

surely there is way more implied odds with 6c7c than there is with Ajo???

Lazare

goodluck2me wrote:

surely there is way more implied odds with 6c7c than there is with Ajo???

I think you'll find, the difference is Reggie had about 70 BB.

cardshark202

goodluck2me wrote:

surely there is way more implied odds with 6c7c than there is with Ajo???

I think you'll find I was in the BB getting over 4:1.

RoundTower

cardshark202 wrote:

I would have folded preflop.

First time for everything.