starting out online

whatawaster

hi everyone.

I'm just getting into online play - i've played several play money games on holdempoker.com, and am looking to start playing some small cash games. The problem is i'm on a very tight budget, so what would be the minimum deposit I should make to really get into things.

Also what site would you recommend as the best?

ArmaniJeanss

Welcome to Online Poker (Please leave your soul at the door).

Most sites have microlimit games , and only small deposits required.

I'd tentatively recommend PaddyPowerPoker.com or GreenJokerPoker.com (they are actually the same site), they have 2c/4c real money tables in limit and no-limit holdem, which are a cheap way of starting off, and also have STTs starting from 10c etc.
Minimum deposit is €20 as far I know.

Edit.
Also, it would be a very good idea to read Musicians 'The Poker Guide..please read this first' sticky at the top of the forum. Chockfull of excellent info, hints, and tips, the guy obviously has too much time on his hands!

Rb

Get $75 free on PartyPoker, check out Ste05s signature for details. The lowest stake cash tables they have though are $.10/$0.25.

Miniumum deposit on Tribeca is €10 but you're probably better off depositing more.
2c/4c is a good start for cash games, $8 max buyin so theres not a lot at stake. Standards poor but money can be made.

Sangre

1/2c blinds on noblepoker, I started with just 5$.

Ste05

TBH, the micro limits of 1c/2c blinds are useless really, it's basically just like Play money, if at all possible, you should try to play at least .10/.25 or concentrate on low buy in STT's

shoutman

imo sngs are the way to start off. The players who play proper poker at the small limit sngs are well up as there is so much dead money ( even in a six seater)

Sangre

Ste05 wrote:

TBH, the micro limits of 1c/2c blinds are useless really, it's basically just like Play money, if at all possible, you should try to play at least .10/.25 or concentrate on low buy in STT's

well if you can't beat 1/2c i dont see how you could beat 10/25.

Yeah, low limit stts would provide a game with lesser variance.

Hectorjelly

Ste05 wrote:

TBH, the micro limits of 1c/2c blinds are useless really, it's basically just like Play money, if at all possible, you should try to play at least .10/.25 or concentrate on low buy in STT's

I dont agree with this at all. Being able to beat players who are playing as if its play money is a good skill to learn. Also for someone starting off, who is definitely going to be a losing player at first, you can burn through a lot of money playing 10.25.

Ste05

Sangre wrote:

well if you can't beat 1/2c i dont see how you could beat 10/25.

Yeah, low limit stts would provide a game with lesser variance.

It's not about being able to beat the games, the 1c/2c games requires a completely different strategy to beat, and once this is cracked it will have a detrimental affect on your game. My point about .10/.25 is that at this level it's basically the lowest level where you are actually playing Poker.

But as said STT's are probably the way to go...

dvdfan

Yeah, id recommend the Low Stakes STT's on Paddypower or wherever you can find them at low stakes. Im pretty good at the $5-$10 STT but ive gotten wiped out at cash games too many times, at least if your great hand gets beat in STT's (Single Table Tourneys) you only lose your entry fee whereas you could be up 20 euro after playing cash games for 3 days and get wiped out in one hand. If you get a good run of STT's youre bank wont be too badly effected with a bad run but you wont get rich either with a good run but a good place to start until you learn the ropes.

Hectorjelly

Ocallagh posted here a while ago that anything under $1 $2 wasnt poker. So which is it? Under $1 $2 or under .10 .25?

Ste05

Hectorjelly wrote:

Ocallagh posted here a while ago that anything under $1 $2 wasnt poker. So which is it? Under $1 $2 or under .10 .25?

LOL, I suppose it's all relative, and 2c/4c is Poker, but IMO, a winning strategy at .10/.25 can be transferred to say .50/1 with some minor adjustments, however the strategy to beat .02/.04 won't really work much higher than that. I just think that the micro levels in on-line Poker are an anomoly of sorts in that, they have their own rules that don't really work at any other level. (But I suppose it could also be argued that this is the same for all levels... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

But you do have a point about it being a good skill to learn. And I suppose Poker is Poker no matter what amount of money you're playing with.

Sangre

Ste05 wrote:

It's not about being able to beat the games, the 1c/2c games requires a completely different strategy to beat, and once this is cracked it will have a detrimental affect on your game. My point about .10/.25 is that at this level it's basically the lowest level where you are actually playing Poker.

But as said STT's are probably the way to go...

Being able to beat the worst players in poker will have a detrimental affect on your game? If you can't master a simple strategy like push with a premium pair pre-flop or the like, then you've no hope at 10/25c, especially if you're starting out trying to build a bankroll.

Poker is all about money, who cares if it isn't pretty?

Hectorjelly

I think its actually a type of snobbery, and also in a lot of cases comes when people cant beat a certain limit because their game relys on other people folding weak hands. Im dont think thats the case with Ste or O'Callagh though

Ste05

God, I'm sounding like a Poker snob, which I certainly didn't consider myself to be.

My rather bad point was that a good winning strategy at these levels is basically just wait for a good hand and Go all-in Pre-Flop. I suppose it could be said that it'll give you a good grasp of PF hand selection, and what I was talking about it being detrimental to your game is that, you don't learn anything about the subtlities of the game. Even simple things like a continuation bet, the proper value of position, will be completely lost and no where near as valuable in the (even slightly) higher levels. And also where's the fun in this type of game??

But I think I'm onto a loser here so I might just cut my losses and cashout... with one final thought. Again I'll say that STT's are the best way for new players to start out...

EDIT: Started writing this before HJ's post, won't go into what the delay was :rolleyes: