George Galloway on the late late ..

GBX

Has anybody just watched George Galloway on the late late? I first noticed the guy a few years back before the celeb big brother and his views on Iraq, Afghanistan, Bush and Blair impress me. He certainly knows his stuff and put that twat from McGill in his place...

themainburger

This is one of my fave clips of George

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

He is attacking Fiona Phillips and Sky News for their OBVIOUSLY biased coverage of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, in the same way that the American news coverage makes it look as though the Palestinians are to blame and the Israelis are just defending themselves, he accuses Sky News of doing the same.

The sad thing is tho, it's true. Sky News has slowly been getting worse in the last 12 months. When a muslim cleric takes a stand at a press conference (last week) and starts speaking out against the police raids on muslims homes, Sky purposely assign all their resources to covering the "Richard Hammond Car Crash". Now personally I don't give a flying **** if some idiot wants to crash his car at 300mph for a TV show, that's not news to me. However, even for those that think it is newsworthy, there is no excuse for Sky News making it their main breaking news for almost THREE HOURS when it was obvious that the main issue of the day was the muslim cleric.

Not only that but during Sky's live "debate" regarding the cleric issue, any time an important issue was raised or anytime the argument seemed to sway in the muslims favour, Sky cuts to an "update" on the Richard Hammond situation..when of course the update is the same as it was 7 minutes ago: there IS NO update. But how and ever, let's keep distracting people with the Hammond story and if we do this enough times in the next 30 minutes, people will forget what the debate was even about. Muslims? I thought the debate was on road safety....

There is a documentary called Outfoxed with exposes the republican bias of the Fox News network and it's owner: Rupert Murdoch. Same guy that owns Sky News.

I thought I was being a conspiracy theorist at first and then I thought that I was only seeing it because of the Outfoxed docu, but in the last 12 months I have noticed so many instances like this on Sky News that I can't even watch the channel anymore because I don't see it as fair and unbiased news any more.

Sorry for going off topic on this one with the soapbox rant but it's just my own opinion on the same thing George is speaking about in the clip.

mike65

There is a news/media forum.

Mike.

Carcharodon

Good guest to have on, he certainly knows his stuff and spoke with confidence and conviction.
Probably a bit too aggresive towards other people that dont agree with him, insults them and then rams his points down their throat, but he is usually right in what he says!

Poor Pat Kenny, after the serious and heated discussions, he just popped out with the Big Brother question, i really hoped he could of avoided that, realise its what brought him into public eye more but its pointless bringing it up when the galloway has far more interesting things to talk about

Mossy Monk

themainburger wrote:

covering the "Richard Hammond Car Crash". Now personally I don't give a flying **** if some idiot wants to crash his car at 300mph for a TV show, that's not news to me

not news to you, but news to others. besides, who watches Sky News for news coverage anyway. it is The Sun in television form

Sky News Breaking News Banner wrote:

Breaking News: David Beckham Shaves His Head

thats what flashed up on my screen one day

byte

Yes, Sky News really is "Red Top" News.

With regards to the Richard Hammond thing though, Sky News weren't the only ones making a big thing of the accident - BBC News 24 also had it as their main story for quite a while.

As for Pat Kenny, I think he's not really worth talking about

GBX

"There is a news/media forum.

Mike."
Mike, the george galloway spot was on the late late show, not a news program which is why I started the topic under "Television"

I agree too about Sky News. They are very biased ... its probably a case of none of the editors wanting to show "real news" for fear of losing their job.

Call Me Jimmy

themainburger wrote:

This is one of my fave clips of George

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

He is attacking Fiona Phillips and Sky News for their OBVIOUSLY biased coverage of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, in the same way that the American news coverage makes it look as though the Palestinians are to blame and the Israelis are just defending themselves, he accuses Sky News of doing the same.

The sad thing is tho, it's true. Sky News has slowly been getting worse in the last 12 months. When a muslim cleric takes a stand at a press conference (last week) and starts speaking out against the police raids on muslims homes, Sky purposely assign all their resources to covering the "Richard Hammond Car Crash". Now personally I don't give a flying **** if some idiot wants to crash his car at 300mph for a TV show, that's not news to me. However, even for those that think it is newsworthy, there is no excuse for Sky News making it their main breaking news for almost THREE HOURS when it was obvious that the main issue of the day was the muslim cleric.

Not only that but during Sky's live "debate" regarding the cleric issue, any time an important issue was raised or anytime the argument seemed to sway in the muslims favour, Sky cuts to an "update" on the Richard Hammond situation..when of course the update is the same as it was 7 minutes ago: there IS NO update. But how and ever, let's keep distracting people with the Hammond story and if we do this enough times in the next 30 minutes, people will forget what the debate was even about. Muslims? I thought the debate was on road safety..

What are you talking about? Sky did a report on a muslim cleric at some labour guy's press conference around a week ago which I actually saw more than once in the same day and they did a talk with the reporter who was at the thing. They gave it more than enough coverage.

And I don't care about Richard Hammond but he is a well-liked British TV personality, it was big news, bigger than some random muslim shouting his mouth off.

HelterSkelter

When is the late late repeated? I'd love to see this.

themainburger

mike65 wrote:

There is a news/media forum.

Mike.

I apologised at the bottom for taking it off topic.

Mossy Monk wrote:

not news to you, but news to others.

Agreed, and I did mention straight after that it may be newsworthy to others.

Call Me Jimmy wrote:

What are you talking about? Sky did a report on a muslim cleric at some labour guy's press conference around a week ago which I actually saw more than once in the same day and they did a talk with the reporter who was at the thing. They gave it more than enough coverage.

And I don't care about Richard Hammond but he is a well-liked British TV personality, it was big news, bigger than some random muslim shouting his mouth off.

I was making a valid point about the same thing George Galloway was talking about in my clip ; media bias. I did take it slightly off topic but the connection is not that hard to make, because we were discussing him, I posted a link to a George Galloway clip where he accused Sky of not covering Palestinian deaths with the same compassion as that of Israelis, I then gave my own opinion which is that whenever Sky has to cover any sensitive or hard hitting news stories, they use distraction tactics and play it down with minimal coverage so as to kind of steer the viewer into having an opinion which suits the owners.

I don't have anything against Richard Hammond either, the term idiot applied to anyone driving a car that fast, not him personally. I also don't necessarily aggree with the Muslim clerics opinions that day, I just thought it was unnecessary for Sky to keep interrupting a debate about it every five minutes for an update on the Hammond story, when there clearly was none, for hours there was nothing new to report about his condition. And it was just one example of many I've seen.

It wasn't meant to be an overly politcal/news/media topic, more just an agreement with Georges opinion in the clip, apologies if it came across that way

HelterSkelter

Call Me Jimmy wrote:

What are you talking about? Sky did a report on a muslim cleric at some labour guy's press conference around a week ago which I actually saw more than once in the same day and they did a talk with the reporter who was at the thing. They gave it more than enough coverage.

Did you see the coverage on their web site? For the photo of the muslim cleric they used a particular shot that made him look like a mad man.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13543286,00.html

J.R.HARTLEY

the muslim cleric was reported on both SKY and BBC to have been a member of an outlawed Islamic group that had come out in support of terrorism, as was the other man who was thrown out later, there were plenty of other muslims in the room that didn't start shouting

mike65

Staying off topic that fella was a Rent-A-Rant muslim, he's well known for it in media circles.

Mike.

Mossy Monk

HelterSkelter wrote:

For the photo of the muslim cleric they used a particular shot that made him look like a mad man

dont see the problem. it is an accurate representation

like Mike said, he is Rent A Rant

HelterSkelter

The late late is repeated tonight at 11:35pm if anyone is interested.

miketv

I saw it and thought he was fantastic, he's gone up a notch in my book

slipss

seen it there yesterday, I thought he made good points and all that but I mean for a politician he isn't a very good debater, loses his temper and lets people wind him up way way too easy and if someone brings a point up that shows a previous point he made to be inaccurate instead of trying to re-address it he seems to try to change the topic as quickly as possible and hopes no one notices. A bit up his own arse aswell, but like I say he does seem to know his stuff reasonably well, shame he couldn't win a debate with a drunken, bound and gagged 5 year old.

DéiseGirl

He has a good radio show on Talksport, 8.00-10.00pm on Sat/Sun nights.

miketv

D&#233 wrote: »

He has a good radio show on Talksport, 8.00-10.00pm on Sat/Sun nights.

Is that on AM only? how easy is it to pick up on irish radio dials and is the quality any good? Or is the only option, the net?

Mossy Monk

TalkSport is available online, the AM band, DAB, satellite and UK cable

http://www1.talksport.net/listen/listentous.asp?listen_id=99980

irish_bob

interesting debate here
however i strongly disagree with most of the posts
1st of all , sky news is an excellent news channell, a few things about sky
rupert murdoch only has a 41% stake in sky news , due to the fact that fox news is referred to as sky news sister network in the usa, sky is then the victim of guilt by association
while fox news is a blatant propoganda machine for the republican party in the usa, it is grossly unfair to make any comparrison between fox and sky new
i have been watching it since 1995 and i have always found it to be even handed , i would rate it as high as the bbc even
sure it has the fingerprints of murdoch with its breaking news ticker but almost all news chanells are some what sensationilists now
it is an unfair comment to call it the sun newspaper on tv

secondly , the issue of the muslim who interupted john reid
how anyone could defend that fanatic is beyond me
the guy baschially told john reid that he was in a muslim area as if thier were parts of the uk where white people could not go
sky gave plenty of air time to this story and in my opinion when talking to another fundamentalist muslim , were very restraint considdering this guy was saying that democrocy was a crime in islam
as regards sky then interupting to break the news of richard hammonds car crash, i saw no problem with this at all as he is a much loved tv personality from one thee most popular programmes in the uk , in ireland too
top gear is a wonderfully informative and also witty show , its has countless fans in ireland aswell as the uk , as a car enthsiast , i am one of them and am glad to see that richard hammond has made a remarkable recovery

to summarrise
rupert murdoch = one of the most awfull men alive
sky news = highly respected and compentant news service

irish_bob

sorry , i forgot the central theme of the debate , george galloway
galloway while a really good debater and a highly intelligent man is a charlatan of epic proportions , the guys a media whore
this man was a mate of sadamm husien , its a strange phenomonon but some leftists love to cosy up to dictators, its always been the way
he was celeb big brother earlier in 2006 and anyone who watched it saw the acid tongued bully he is
he was also on bbc question time around the time of the danish cartoon controversy and actually took the side of the fanatical protesters
this was of course a political move as his consituence in london is over whelmingly muslim , he got elected off the back of bad mouthing tony blair over the iraq war, which is fine in one aspect , the war is a crime and a disaster, thing is , hes known for very little else
he craves attention and is hardly ever out of the spotlight , galloway
on the late late show , he charechter assisinated eamon sweeney , the editor of mc gill like a big bully , just because sweeney confornted him about his afternoon tea partys with sadamm husien

as i said earlier , the guy is a charlatan

Mossy Monk

listened to him on Talk Sport the other night

wouldnt piss on him if i found him on fire. the man is vile

Hobbes

irish_bob wrote:

1st of all , sky news is an excellent news channell, a few things about sky

More for the media forum, but Sky news is far from balanced.

secondly , the issue of the muslim who interupted john reid
how anyone could defend that fanatic is beyond me

I don't think anyone has. If it is the same guy I think it is, even in the Islam forum the muslims there are discussing how they can effectively distance themselves from this muppet.

the guy baschially told john reid that he was in a muslim area as if thier were parts of the uk where white people could not go

There are always parts of certain places where certain people don't go.

this guy was saying that democrocy was a crime in islam

You should ask on the Islam forum if this is actually true or not. I'd say it isn't but would be intresting to hear it from some actual muslims instead of a rent a rant.

sky news = highly respected and compentant news service

Like I said more for media forum but horribly wrong.

Mitch Connor

i'm sorry for continuing the off-topic sky news bit - but the talk has interested me.

Sky News is fast becoming a tv tabloid in my opinion - full of horrible sound bites and terrible cliches, the standard of their journalism is quickly falling too.

the recent murders in Ipswich is a prime example of this - the charactor assassination of the first person to be brought in for questioning (not even charged) was a disgrace and had the man been charged and brought to trail, sky news would have played a very large role in having it thrown out of court as there is no way th man could have been garunteed a fair trail. Stupid camera moments such a close up of the man's house, along with comments of "this is as close as we can get" were the icing on the cake.

Eamon Holmes bleating "But the police never told is not to say something" was utter stupidity and childisness - as well paid professionals and 'leaders in the field' they should simply know better and know where the line is.

As for Galloway, can't stand the man. The way he seems to personally go after Blair is irritating, and his antics on big brother were a joke.

HelterSkelter

irish_bob wrote:

... galloway
on the late late show , he charechter assisinated eamon sweeney , the editor of mc gill like a big bully , just because sweeney confornted him about his afternoon tea partys with sadamm husien.

...Well I think Eamon Sweeney deserved it as does anyone else who defends the war in Iraq. I have great admiration for Galloway.

Mossy Monk

Tauren wrote:

Sky News is fast becoming a tv tabloid in my opinion - full of horrible sound bites and terrible cliches, the standard of their journalism is quickly falling too

wont be long now before Sky News is on the same level as its sister station FOX News

irish_bob

There are always parts of certain places where certain people don't go.


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this guy was saying that democrocy was a crime in islam


You should ask on the Islam forum if this is actually true or not. I'd say it isn't but would be intresting to hear it from some actual muslims instead of a rent a rant.


Quote:
sky news = highly respected and compentant news service


Like I said more for media forum but horribly wrong.

im not sure why i would need to check the authtenticity of what i posted in any forum
i heard all this with my on ears , the guy who said democrocy was a crime in islam was not the same guy who heckled john reid , this guy was interviewed by sky news later in the day about the john reid debacle and made the democrocy comment , as i said already , i heard it with my own ears

secondly i find your comment that thier are certain places that people dont go astonishing
the uk is a free country , were the likes of the guy (you dubiously suggest is a rent a rant ) who heckled john reid ever to get his hands on the reigns of power , it would not be free for very long
dont defend the indefensable , its not brave and its not clever

Dave!

He can be watched here:
http://www.rte.ie/tv/latelate/20060929.html

Click "Watch clip" (I think you need Real Player)

irish_bob wrote:

he charechter assisinated eamon sweeney , the editor of mc gill like a big bully , just because sweeney confornted him about his afternoon tea partys with sadamm husien

He went ballistic on Sweeney because Sweeney started referring to GG as Saddam's "bosom buddy" (if I remember correctly). If you want to start insulting someone then you can only expect a similar response.

As to Galloway,

I'm a big fan of him! He's the most entertaining politician around today, and I agree with alot of his policies. He's also a really really talented orator and public speaker. Watch that clip someone posted earlier where he rips into a Sky reporter. He tears her to bits for her bias. Also watch him in front of the Senate committee, he rips them a new asshole too!

Having said that, I don't agree with everything he says. I don't like how he always seems to be on the Muslims' side. With the war in Iraq that's one thing, but he can't really say a bad word against Muslims cos they're his constituents. I also don't like the way he defends Fidel Castro. A dictator is a dictator, no matter how good the health system is.

But still my favourite politician of the day, and I love watching him!

HelterSkelter

DaveMcG wrote:

...Having said that, I don't agree with everything he says. I don't like how he always seems to be on the Muslims' side. With the war in Iraq that's one thing, but he can't really say a bad word against Muslims cos they're his constituents...

I have a sneaking suspicion he is a convert who has yet to come out of the closet.