kids in the cul-de-sac

dbnavan

Hi all just wondered if anyone has any ideas, not sure what i can do if anything at all, wife is due a baby any day and we just moved into a new estate right in the corner of a cul de sac, but every night till 10 and after we listen to kids screaming and shouting as they all seem to gather in our corner outside the house, on sunday night i went and said listen guys I am not trying to be a b*****ks but can u move off to the green or something my wife is 9 months pregnant and trying to sleep, it will be a bigger issue when the baby comes.

They where apoligetic and did move off, these where like 9/10 year olds, they did it again last night, however I didnt say anything as I felt I couldnt...they are on a public road, I only moved in a month ago, so I dont really want to approach parents, or cause agro.

Any ideas??

bounty

shout at them, dont be sacred of causing agro. noise pollution is the worst

chamlis

You don't want to antogonise the little sh!tes. They might make it a personal crusade.

They probably heeded your warning but figured, "ah sure if we're quiet...."
Doesn't translate to quiet in real life, but if you give out to them they think "bo**ocks. Fine so, we'll be even loader! We'll show him! Yeah! WEEEEE!"

Mace ftw

chillywilly

DONT shout at them, they will more than likely just terrorize you.....
just go out to them again and explain you cant have this kind of noise while your wife is pregnant...be really nice, dont sound like an ass!

i was once a youth hanging around on street corners, we wernt trying to cause trouble, we just didnt have anywhere else to go!! when someone asked us to move we had no problem at all, once they didnt treat us like fookin criminals;)

cormie

Once is never enough, speaking as a former child, we always had to be told off about 5-10 times before we deemed that area a no go. Of course we thought the adults were a bunch of moaners at the time but it's the ones who came out shouting and going mad that we aren't fond of now:rolleyes:

dbnavan

I have no intention of entaginising(sp?) them, I am trying to find a way of being nice about it.

Miss Fluff

Try and see if you can have a word with one of two or their parents. As long as you explain the situation as it is and don't appear antagonistic I don't see any reason why a perfectly reasonable adult wouldn't sympathise with you and make sure the kids keep it down a wee bit. Kids could just see you as a grumpy old neighbour while parents may be a bit more understanding. Good luck with new baby btw.;)

arseagon

I had a similar problem with kids kicking a football against the metal railing on the steps up to my apartment. Not in so far as I had a wife preggers or anything like that. They were just annoying me. It took a few attempts at politely telling them to p**s off but eventually they got the message and went elsewhere to play football.

brown*eyed*girl

Its kind've a catch22 situation: i.e. if you give out properly to them they could get worse to spite you and if you're too nice they will only temporarily quieten down. Now they seem to be ok kids as they apologised so I'd try having a another talk with them and this time say that you don't want to have to tell their parents but this is the last time you can ask them and keep it just between you and them. They probably don't realise they are making such a noise. I remember we used to get given out to too when we were younger and half the time you wouldn't realise you were being loud. You need to get on their level if that is possible but still get the message across.

gazzer

Ive been having terrible trouble with the kids up my way.. They are coming in from a neighbouring estate and are causing all sorts of problems.. It started a couple of months back when they threw stones at mine and my neighbours window.. I went out to them (around 8 of them all around 12).. i asked them to give it a rest and i got dogs abuse of them... 'shut up ya queer (?), if you tell my ma on me ill get you shot.. so as you can see they were lovely children.

Anyway since then at least 3 times a week these same kids congregate near the house.. fling rocks and stones at passing cars and buses and have thrown stones at my car and my neigbours car.. last week two of my car windows were smashed in (cant prove it was them though)..

I've ran the guards and the anti social section of Fingal council but nobody seems to do anything...the guards arrive and the kids leg it.. I cant find out where they live as nobody seems to know (or want to 'rat' on them) even the other neighbours who are bearing the brunt of it dont seem to want to get involved....

cormie

gazzer wrote:

Ive been having terrible trouble with the kids up my way.. They are coming in from a neighbouring estate and are causing all sorts of problems.. It started a couple of months back when they threw stones at mine and my neighbours window.. I went out to them (around 8 of them all around 12).. i asked them to give it a rest and i got dogs abuse of them... 'shut up ya queer (?), if you tell my ma on me ill get you shot.. so as you can see they were lovely children.

Anyway since then at least 3 times a week these same kids congregate near the house.. fling rocks and stones at passing cars and buses and have thrown stones at my car and my neigbours car.. last week two of my car windows were smashed in (cant prove it was them though)..

I've ran the guards and the anti social section of Fingal council but nobody seems to do anything...the guards arrive and the kids leg it.. I cant find out where they live as nobody seems to know (or want to 'rat' on them) even the other neighbours who are bearing the brunt of it dont seem to want to get involved....

Hmmm, you should record them and let the police see them throwing stones and everything.

biko

OP I think that you should keep asking them to leave. Just be nice and calm about it.

If you go out every time they'll see that you mean business - after a while they'll start hanging out somewhere else.

pleba

dbnavan wrote:

but every night till 10 and after we listen to kids screaming and shouting as they all seem to gather in our corner outside the house
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these where like 9/10 year olds,

Is it just me getting old or what? 9 and 10 year old kids out till 10pm at night? And on school nights? There was no way at that age I was allowed out that late. Are parents these days afraid of their kids? Or are they happiest when their kids are out of the house annoying someone else...

Rb

dbnavan wrote:

entaginising(sp?)

Antagonising

I'd say just be persistant about it, but stay nice. I remember when I was a kid we'd kick a soccer or rugby ball around on our road and there was this one woman who used to come out and freak out at us, claiming we were waking up her kids (even though we knew full well she didn't have kids) so we'd intentionally get louder. While on the other hand, an elderly woman asked us if we wouldn't mind playing on another part of the road quite nicely and we moved off. Just the way kids work I guess, but since the ones in your case listened the first time, they sound reasonable so persistance might work.

gazzer wrote:

Ive been having terrible trouble with the kids up my way.. They are coming in from a neighbouring estate and are causing all sorts of problems.. It started a couple of months back when they threw stones at mine and my neighbours window.. I went out to them (around 8 of them all around 12).. i asked them to give it a rest and i got dogs abuse of them... 'shut up ya queer (?), if you tell my ma on me ill get you shot.. so as you can see they were lovely children.

Anyway since then at least 3 times a week these same kids congregate near the house.. fling rocks and stones at passing cars and buses and have thrown stones at my car and my neigbours car.. last week two of my car windows were smashed in (cant prove it was them though)..

I've ran the guards and the anti social section of Fingal council but nobody seems to do anything...the guards arrive and the kids leg it.. I cant find out where they live as nobody seems to know (or want to 'rat' on them) even the other neighbours who are bearing the brunt of it dont seem to want to get involved....

Throw rocks back at them!
Or set up a security camera perhaps, get a bit of evidence together. The stuff they're doing isn't normal kid stuff like, they sound like little knackers and should be treated so. They're only kids, you're the adult so should take control of the situation.

Sofaspud

As has been said, be nice about it, treat them as equals.

Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT bring their parents into it, or even threaten to, becausethat's the point at which you'll stop being "that sound bloke who wants a bit of peace", and you'll become "That 'oul bollox who thinks he's better than us"

The way you did deal with it was good, but they probably assumed it meant you only wanted peace that night. Just walk up to them again, "Howyis, lads, me wife's pregnant and needs sleep, would yis be able to keep it down a bit, please?"

sdanseo

Hmmm, you should record them and let the police see them throwing stones and everything.

You'd be surprised how illegal this is...I'd consider it going too far and If the kids found out, you'd always be ''that crazy guy at the end of the road''...

Rb

sdonn_1 wrote:

You'd be surprised how illegal this is...I'd consider it going too far and If the kids found out, you'd always be ''that crazy guy at the end of the road''...

The kids are throwing stones at his house windows and his car windows ffs, who cares what the little knackers think of him as long as they get sorted out one way or another?

chamlis

Sofaspud wrote:

As has been said, be nice about it, treat them as equals.

Do NOT, I repeat, do NOT bring their parents into it, or even threaten to, becausethat's the point at which you'll stop being "that sound bloke who wants a bit of peace", and you'll become "That 'oul bollox who thinks he's better than us"

The way you did deal with it was good, but they probably assumed it meant you only wanted peace that night. Just walk up to them again, "Howyis, lads, me wife's pregnant and needs sleep, would yis be able to keep it down a bit, please?"

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Give it a shot!

Hobbes

As noisy as they are ,they are just kids being kids. You act like a bollox to them your liable to get more then just noise thrown your way. Unless they are destroying the house I'd keep the parents out of it too.

I'd go with asking them to keep it down rather then move on. Although its liable they will do that anyway.

It was like visiting a friends out. The little ****es where all over my car messing. The second time I went around I saw one of the ringleaders and asked if he would keep an eye out for the car. Afterwards threw him a euro which he seemed happy about. After that they left the car alone.

gazzer

Just in reponse to some posters good ideas about catching the kids on camera i actually did that a couple of weeks back and guess what the kids said??? They told me that I was a pervert and that i should be locked up and that i wanted to molest them... they are little b**tards. I actually got wary of getting in touch with the cops cos i wasnt sure of the legal inplications of capturing under age kids on camera.

Anyway there is a residents meeting about it later in the week and hopfully some local guards will be at it so i can ask that question then.. im not the only resident in the area been affected by this.. It just seems though that most people affected by it dont seem to care or else are afraid of retaliation.

Its mad though that 12 years olds are out until midnight

Rb

gazzer wrote:

Just in reponse to some posters good ideas about catching the kids on camera i actually did that a couple of weeks back and guess what the kids said??? They told me that I was a pervert and that i should be locked up and that i wanted to molest them... they are little b**tards. I actually got wary of getting in touch with the cops cos i wasnt sure of the legal inplications of capturing under age kids on camera.

Anyway there is a residents meeting about it later in the week and hopfully some local guards will be at it so i can ask that question then.. im not the only resident in the area been affected by this.. It just seems though that most people affected by it dont seem to care or else are afraid of retaliation.

Its mad though that 12 years olds are out until midnight

Well judging by their behaviour, they've been brought up badly so it wouldn't surprise me that their parents are letting them out until midnight.
I'm sure security cameras are legal, sure they have to be. Your property is being destroyed at the hands of knacker kids, what are you expected to do?Sit there and take it?
Hope your residents meeting goes well and theres some action proposed or set up to deal with this because it sounds like a horrible situation to be dealing with.

FlutterinBantam

Ring Lisneys and get out of there pronto...

Snake Plisken

Yep I was just going to suggest residents committee as the way to go! Problem I see in my street is there are lot of rented houses and some have non-nationals in them and they don't seem to give a damn about the other residents in the street and leave thier kids run wild! Another issue I have is one of the houses rented across the road decided to use the front of my house as their own personal carpark! One has non-nationals and the other 3 blokes working locally. I think the landlords need to be held accountable for their tennants

Snake

magpie

Get an angry, hungry dog that looks big enough to eat children. Then let him roam around loose in your front garden. Problem solved.

magpie

magpie wrote:

Get an angry, hungry dog that looks big enough to eat children. Then let him roam around loose in your front garden. Problem solved.

Or a tiger.

dbnavan

Think the general consensus is to be nice and keep at them which is what I thought anyway, maybe when the baby does arrive they will take more heed to because they will know we have a kid and have a real reason to ask them to keep it down, one of them just knocked on the door looking for sponsorship for some school walk, gave him 2 euro want to keep them on my side.

Tazz T

Hobbes wrote:

It was like visiting a friends out. The little ****es where all over my car messing. The second time I went around I saw one of the ringleaders and asked if he would keep an eye out for the car. Afterwards threw him a euro which he seemed happy about. After that they left the car alone.

Now they only smash the cars that haven't paid.

An early start to a career in politics.

exCrumlinBoyo

gazzer wrote:

Ive been having terrible trouble with the kids up my way.. They are coming in from a neighbouring estate and are causing all sorts of problems.. It started a couple of months back when they threw stones at mine and my neighbours window.. I went out to them (around 8 of them all around 12).. i asked them to give it a rest and i got dogs abuse of them... 'shut up ya queer (?), if you tell my ma on me ill get you shot.. so as you can see they were lovely children.

Anyway since then at least 3 times a week these same kids congregate near the house.. fling rocks and stones at passing cars and buses and have thrown stones at my car and my neigbours car.. last week two of my car windows were smashed in (cant prove it was them though)..

I've ran the guards and the anti social section of Fingal council but nobody seems to do anything...the guards arrive and the kids leg it.. I cant find out where they live as nobody seems to know (or want to 'rat' on them) even the other neighbours who are bearing the brunt of it dont seem to want to get involved....

In a case like the above you need to get a mate with you grab one or two of them when the least expect it, try and not make your self know and be smart about it. Basically bundle one or two of them into the back of a car and bring them up the mountains and beat the **** out of them. Tell them to stay out of the area and tell their mates to keep out as well or there will be more of the same. Also tell them if they try any funny **** the hiding will be worst.

When I lived in Crumlin, which I have done all my life, had the same problem. Brother had a nice car and a bunch of lads always hanging around the car, messing with it ect. Noise was another thing outside the house. About 10 of them in all. Well me and the bro borrowed a car from outside of the area, watched a couple of the ring leaders for a day or two, grabbed them both into the car, we had our faces covered, brought them up to the mountains and kicked the living crap out of them. The so called hard men were crying like babies and we had no trouble after that with anyone because people knew but could not prove it was us and did not want to take the chance...

OP I am not saying this is what you need to do as the kids sound all right, talk to them again, but when you tell them you would like them to move on because of the wife and baby, don’t just leave it at that, stay a few minutes and talk with them and have a laugh, leave and say lads, great talking with yis, but fair is fair with the wife and baby... As your walking away you will here come lads, yer man is cool... if it don’t work and they give you ****, revert to the above...

#Smokey#

exCrumlinBoyo wrote:

In a case like the above you need to get a mate with you grab one or two of them when the least expect it, try and not make your self know and be smart about it. Basically bundle one or two of them into the back of a car and bring them up the mountains and beat the **** out of them. Tell them to stay out of the area and tell their mates to keep out as well or there will be more of the same. Also tell them if they try any funny **** the hiding will be worst.

When I lived in Crumlin, which I have done all my life, had the same problem. Brother had a nice car and a bunch of lads always hanging around the car, messing with it ect. Noise was another thing outside the house. About 10 of them in all. Well me and the bro borrowed a car from outside of the area, watched a couple of the ring leaders for a day or two, grabbed them both into the car, we had our faces covered, brought them up to the mountains and kicked the living crap out of them. The so called hard men were crying like babies and we had no trouble after that with anyone because people knew but could not prove it was us and did not want to take the chance...

OP I am not saying this is what you need to do as the kids sound all right, talk to them again, but when you tell them you would like them to move on because of the wife and baby, don’t just leave it at that, stay a few minutes and talk with them and have a laugh, leave and say lads, great talking with yis, but fair is fair with the wife and baby... As your walking away you will here come lads, yer man is cool... if it don’t work and they give you ****, revert to the above...

thats the solution to every scumbag problem. Only the next step is gettin a big guy named butch and leaving the knacker in with butch for a few days.



@ OP : Treat em as they were yer friends and dont have a rat ot parents as they WILL f*ck with you big time.

chillywilly

Myth wrote:

Or a tiger.

or a dinosaur:eek:

mad m

@exCrumlinBoyo

You must of lived in the nice part of Crumlin so,where I used to live you went out and smacked them with something hard to the knee! Or worse some were followed up to pearse park and god knows what went on:)

L31mr0d

gone are the days when you could just say "get out of here or i'll tell your parents" and that was enough. The fear of that alone kept myself and all of my friends in line. Sure I climbed on peoples walls, broke the potted plant or two, had perpetual grazed knees but I knew where the line was.

But to the OP, it would be nice to think that they will just leave if you ask them, but I think you are going to be stuck with them there. My parents live facing a corner in their estate for the last 20 years and have watched 3 generations of kids grow up hanging out on that corner, and I can guarantee if I went there now there would be some kids hanging out. My parents and others have asked them to leave and be quite, some times they listen... only to be replaced by another troupe of teens and wannabeteens the next night. Fact is they aren't breaking any laws and they really have nowhere else to go, I mean if they leave your corner they are just going to hang out on someone elses corner and get asked to move, so why bother moving at all.

My advice... double glazing and ear plugs

Winters

****ing pedo's with yore innuendos.!

I need more drenik1

Kastro

either attack them with the hose or call the cops and tell them theres a bunch of jockys (small people) selling drugs....