€500 + €35 Freeze-out, Saturday Oct 20th 8pm, Dublin

carfax

Stephen Mc Lean and Julie O’Leary are running this event.

The purpose of the event is commercial and the best possible service will be given to players.

The event will take place on Friday October 20th in the Clarion Hotel Dublin Airport.

Registration will be open from 19:00 on the 20th and the tournament will begin at 20:00 sharp.

All are welcome

Qualifiers will be running at different locations around the country, throughout September and October but players can pay their entry fees on the night.

Online satellites will take place on Wednesday 20th and 27th on BoylePoker.com at 8pm I think (still to be confirmed). These will be $50+.50c satellites with one ticket guaranteed.

This event on October 20th will be a no-limit hold’em feeze-out.

The cost of entry will be €500 and there will be no re-buys.

There will be a charge of €35 registration.

100 % of entry fee going into Prize fund.

No guaranteed prize-pool but a conservative estimate would be €35,000.

Starting Chips- 10,000

Blind levels- 25-50, 50-100, 75-150, 100-200, 100-200 (25 ante), 150-300 (25ante), 200-400 (50 ante)

Blind timeframes- 35 minutes.

This will be an all cash pay-out tournament and the top 10% of players will be payed out (this may be subject to a slight change depending on numbers, i.e. if there are 63 players there will probably be 7 places paid)

There will be dealers and we have enlisted the help of some of the best in the
business.

There will be a documented list of rules.

There will be a tournament director- Stephen Mc Lean.

I have final say on any disputes.

Goodluck2me

best of luck stephen.

carfax

cheers bud,

same to you if you're playing, lol....

rogue trader

Personally, I hope every boardster or any person who has played a pokerevents tourney in which Stephen has been involved supports this venture. Good luck Stephen, not that you'll need it!

carfax

Wow,

Cheers Rogue Trader.....

I hope people do play in these €500 events but the one thing I will say is that you probably do need the next day off work.....We're making the blind structures extremely playable so it will be late finsihes all round, that is the reason we are holding them on Fridays and Saturdays.


And wait 'til you see what Julie and myself are thinking up next.....
We're hoping it could be bigger than any other festival in Ireland or Europe probably to take place around Halowe'en 2007.
And it won't just be all hold 'em. Omaha and hopefully other disciplines too.

Thanks again guys.

connie147

carfax wrote:

Wow,

Cheers Rogue Trader.....

I hope people do play in these €500 events but the one thing I will say is that you probably do need the next day off work.....We're making the blind structures extremely playable so it will be late finsihes all round, that is the reason we are holding them on Fridays and Saturdays.


And wait 'til you see what Julie and myself are thinking up next.....
We're hoping it could be bigger than any other festival in Ireland or Europe probably to take place around Halowe'en 2007.
And it won't just be all hold 'em. Omaha and hopefully other disciplines too.

Thanks again guys.

Hi Stephen,
Best of luck in your new venture.

I think tournament organisers in general are starting to put too big a buy in on their tourneys to make them all successfull.
why are you making your tourneys €500 +€35. You could have them at €300 + €35 and I reckon you would get twice the amount of players.

There is a limit to the amount of players who can play big buy ins. This is the general feedback im getting anyway.

carfax

True Connie,

We may well have to take a look at that, but at the same time we are getting a great reaction to these tournaments.

We will have to see how it goes but the reason we decided to run with the €500 buy-in was because players were asking us for it in different areas of the country.
In my experience it is the players that ask you for a specific tournament that will not play in them but we just thought 'what the hey', lol.

Most players would gladly play a €200 freeze-out on a weekly basis but we are only going to be running a €500 buy-in tournament in each area on a monthly or 6 weekly basis.

Getting the most runners isn't our objective but providing the best service is.

And for the players with wife and kids they can now outlay a reasonable amount of money (with the expectation of profit) and only have to spend one day away from families etc.....

The percentage of the registration fee is important to most pro's too and at 7% we are also doing our very best there. With sandwiches and other essentials provided too (free parking at the Clarion Hotel for all players, so if you have to catch a flight you should play in the tournament too, lol)......I sound like a great salesman don't I.....

Thanks very much though Connie, I think you have a very good point and you may well see us taking your advice over the coming weeks.

Fatboydim

Sounds good.

Any qualifiers out west?

nicnicnic

carfax wrote:

True Connie,

We may well have to take a look at that, but at the same time we are getting a great reaction to these tournaments.

We will have to see how it goes but the reason we decided to run with the €500 buy-in was because players were asking us for it in different areas of the country.
In my experience it is the players that ask you for a specific tournament that will not play in them but we just thought 'what the hey', lol.

Most players would gladly play a €200 freeze-out on a weekly basis but we are only going to be running a €500 buy-in tournament in each area on a monthly or 6 weekly basis.

Getting the most runners isn't our objective but providing the best service is.

And for the players with wife and kids they can now outlay a reasonable amount of money (with the expectation of profit) and only have to spend one day away from families etc.....

The percentage of the registration fee is important to most pro's too and at 7% we are also doing our very best there. With sandwiches and other essentials provided too (free parking at the Clarion Hotel for all players, so if you have to catch a flight you should play in the tournament too, lol)......I sound like a great salesman don't I.....

Thanks very much though Connie, I think you have a very good point and you may well see us taking your advice over the coming weeks.

I suppose it depends on where its on, €500 may well be fine in Dublin as you the have pool of players there and you get the other's from around the country who want such a game travelling. I have to say Stephen I'm fearful for your numbers for the game scheduled in Waterford. I could be wrong but I feel that there isnt the amount players aspiring to this level of tournament to make it viable for you. I hope I'm wrong

connie147

nicnicnic wrote:

I suppose it depends on where its on, €500 may well be fine in Dublin as you the have pool of players there and you get the other's from around the country who want such a game travelling. I have to say Stephen I'm fearful for your numbers for the game scheduled in Waterford. I could be wrong but I feel that there isnt the amount players aspiring to this level of tournament to make it viable for you. I hope I'm wrong

Hi Nicky

I agree with you 100%. I have a core of players here who would play a €500 euro tourney but not once a month. A monthly 250 f/o i could see being a success but a regular 500, no way outside the pale.

Steven,
This thing about reg really gets to me.
OK, maybe the pro players are big on it, but what the average tournament player wants is a well run tourney with a good structure. They dont really mind the reg once its not raping the punter.
Reg is more apt in casinos because they make their money off the player in more ways than one.

To hire a hall, pay dealers, organise food, pay tournament directors, transport tables, advertise and try and make a profit, this cant be done by getting €20 reg on a 200 tourney. I might get my nose bitten off here,but if somebody puts on a €300 with a good structure etc,etc, then I would not have a conplaint in paying a €50 reg. But having paid that reg, if I was not happy with the tournament then I wouldnt be back.

I know people will say how can you agree with a 16.5% reg. Its just that I can understand the costs involved and if organisers cannot run at a profit, then the games will dry up.
But if you figure you need €35 per player reg to make the tournament work,
that shouldnt mean you have to run a €500 tourney so you can announce a 7% reg. I think you wouldnt have a problem getting the same reg (35€) on a well run,well structured €250 or €300 tourney.

Thats my 2c anyway. Now stand back--let the attack begin LOL

nicnicnic

connie147 wrote:

let the attack begin LOL

you don't know how to play a small pp in mid position and when you win you over react


http://www.dancesisterdance.com/myvid/index.php?v=9fd54dd763d4

carfax

Hi Connie/ Nic,

I think our main objective from the start was to offer players outside of the pale the chance to play for big stakes.....From the players that we have spoken to it is something that they really wanted.....

We all know that the likes of CPT come along into a town and show the general public something that really shouldn't be considered poker (I know they get a hard time so I don't want to dwell on that fact or go into details here, especially seeing how you like them so much Nic, ha ha!).

We want to offer a real poker tournament that doesn't cut any corners and we also want to help every tournament organiser in the country run their events well and see that they are well supported.

We have qualifiers running all over and hope to get many more....We are at the very beginning of our venture and if players don't support our events then so be it but we are trying to do something of quality.

If you're looking for a qualifier in the Waterford area, The Shamrock Club and The Pike Club in Kilkenny are your best bets so far. I would be surprised if we get less than thirty runners to the Belfry on Oct 7th (and I have a good track record of predicting fields)......

Don't forget you can qualify on BoylePoker.com too this Wednesday Sept 20th and Sept 27th at 8pm for €40....That will be our first real test to see how much demand there is for this.

Poker_Ireland

Hi guys,

Julie here -Just to let you know you'll be able to register for the online qualifiers on Boyle Poker as of 2 pm tomorrow afternoon. It will be in the MTT section under Poker Ireland Dundalk Freezeout. However if the Dundalk location or date don't suit you then you can use your ticket for one of the subsequent freezeouts.
We will also be running satellites at our tournaments for other major poker tournaments coming up in Ireland over the coming months as well and cash sit and go's and cash tables.
And thanks for all your feedback guys -we want to run tournaments that represent very good value for players and take on board their preferences as much as is possible. And your point about value is well made Connie. I agree that for most players the key thing is the playability of a tournament and this is something that we've put a lot of thought into as regards blind structures and starting stacks. At the same time we've also decided to go with a low registration fee so there really is value at both ends of the scale. Of course this is something that Stephen and I will have to review once we've ran a few tournaments to see if it's really viable especially given the varying costs we're getting for venues and the like in different parts of the country but I guess at the base we feel it's possible to run a good tournament without charging to the max.
Running 300€ freezeouts may well be something we will look at - and if the demand in some areas is greater for a tournament with that level of buy-in then we will respond to that. As I said what we're about is trying to respond to player demand so all your feedback is much appreciated.

hope to see you soon and good luck in the meantime,
Julie

califano

Poker_Ireland wrote:

if the Dundalk location or date don't suit you then you can use your ticket for one of the subsequent freezeouts.

Dundalk?. I thought the game is in the Clarion Hotel Dublin Airport as Stephen listed above?. Is the online freezeout not for the Clarion game?.

What is the blind structure for the online Satellite?. I should be able to play if its good and if boylepoker can ever sort a drawn out prima skin issue (i have an all-in poker account) im having. No luck so far though.

carfax

rounders123 wrote:

Dundalk?. I thought the game is in the Clarion Hotel Dublin Airport as Stephen listed above?. Is the online freezeout not for the Clarion game?.

What is the blind structure for the online Satellite?. I should be able to play if its good and if boylepoker can ever sort a drawn out prima skin issue (i have an all-in poker account) im having. No luck so far though.

Hi,

The online satellite is for the Dundalk tournament because this is our first event on Friday Sept 29th. If this date or venue doesn't suit you then you can use the credits at any of our other tournaments around the country, Waterford, Donegal or Dublin (Clarion Airport Hotel Oct 20th)......

If you want to give me a call on 0872 424 626 I will talk to Boyles and make sure any issues you're having are sorted. The online sat will be the usual online structure with probably 15 min blinds but I'm not actually sure yet.

Cheers Rounders.

carfax

Fatboydim wrote:

Sounds good.

Any qualifiers out west?

Hi Len,

I will start trying to organise sats in the Galway/Mayo area now.

Thanks.

LuckyLloyd

connie147 wrote:

This thing about reg really gets to me.
OK, maybe the pro players are big on it, but what the average tournament player wants is a well run tourney with a good structure. They dont really mind the reg once its not raping the punter.
Reg is more apt in casinos because they make their money off the player in more ways than one.

To hire a hall, pay dealers, organise food, pay tournament directors, transport tables, advertise and try and make a profit, this cant be done by getting €20 reg on a 200 tourney. I might get my nose bitten off here,but if somebody puts on a €300 with a good structure etc,etc, then I would not have a conplaint in paying a €50 reg. But having paid that reg, if I was not happy with the tournament then I wouldnt be back.

I know people will say how can you agree with a 16.5% reg. Its just that I can understand the costs involved and if organisers cannot run at a profit, then the games will dry up.
But if you figure you need €35 per player reg to make the tournament work,
that shouldnt mean you have to run a €500 tourney so you can announce a 7% reg. I think you wouldnt have a problem getting the same reg (35€) on a well run,well structured €250 or €300 tourney.

Connie, I completely agree with this reasoning. Outside of a club I am happy to pay a higher percentage reg if it equates to a better structure and service.

connie147

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Connie, I completely agree with this reasoning. Outside of a club I am happy to pay a higher percentage reg if it equates to a better structure and service.

Phew!!--I thought I was the only one.

Stephen,
We were having a chat about this in the club last night and what im telling you here is the general view of a number of players not just for your benefit but for tournament organisers in general.
For a €500 buy in tournament, having 35min blindlevels and antes coming in at the 100-200 level does not seem like a good value tournament .
For an example of that,take the citywest inter county team event last month.
45 min blind levels, antes in at 100-200 and even the average stacks were under pressure all the way during the tournament.It just becomes a crap shoot too early.
This was a great tourney but the general feeling afterwards was that it became a crapshoot too early ,so do you think the same thing is gonna happen in your tournament, only earlier on a 35min clock?

califano

carfax wrote:

Hi,

The online satellite is for the Dundalk tournament because this is our first event on Friday Sept 29th. If this date or venue doesn't suit you then you can use the credits at any of our other tournaments around the country, Waterford, Donegal or Dublin (Clarion Airport Hotel Oct 20th)......

If you want to give me a call on 0872 424 626 I will talk to Boyles and make sure any issues you're having are sorted. The online sat will be the usual online structure with probably 15 min blinds but I'm not actually sure yet.

Cheers Rounders.

Thanks for clearing that up. Thanks for the offer, i will give them a day or so on their own before i contact you. I might have exagerated the 'drawn out' part. I tried to link up yesterday morning and was told it would be sorted that evening at the latest so im sure theyre onto it. Im just used to immediate action!!

Hope the satellite gets a good few runners.

GL

Goodluck2me

connie147 wrote:

Phew!!--I thought I was the only one.

Stephen,
We were having a chat about this in the club last night and what im telling you here is the general view of a number of players not just for your benefit but for tournament organisers in general.
For a €500 buy in tournament, having 35min blindlevels and antes coming in at the 100-200 level does not seem like a good value tournament .
For an example of that,take the citywest inter county team event last month.
45 min blind levels, antes in at 100-200 and even the average stacks were under pressure all the way during the tournament.It just becomes a crap shoot too early.
This was a great tourney but the general feeling afterwards was that it became a crapshoot too early ,so do you think the same thing is gonna happen in your tournament, only earlier on a 35min clock?

does the amount of runner tend to change how quickly the game changes to a crapshoot? as it is unlikely that there will be 200+ peopel playing this, and i was wondering wiht smaller fields does it get "crappy" earlier or later?

carfax

connie147 wrote:

Phew!!--I thought I was the only one.

Stephen,
For a €500 buy in tournament, having 35min blindlevels and antes coming in at the 100-200 level does not seem like a good value tournament .

Hi Connie,

I am very grateful for how you are airing your opinions but I can assure you we will be putting on the very best as regards a non-crap-shoot tournament......

The blind structure I had in mind there had running antes yes but it was also modelled very closely off the WSOP, for example after the 200-400 level there would be a 250-500 and after 500-1000 there would be a 600-1200 level, and so on throughout.....

However we may well alter this now and just run the usual structure with a longer clock.....Its really six of one and half a dozen of the other......

We will post the revised structure as soon as we arrive at it.

Thanks.

califano

carfax wrote:

If you want to give me a call on 0872 424 626 I will talk to Boyles and make sure any issues you're having are sorted.

Stephen,
Ive kept close contact with Boylespoker since saturday with regard mapping my alias(from an All-In account) and the feedback i keep getting back is "Prima have a strict mapping request queue, we will check again for you". Still no joy yet though.

However something has come up and i wont make tomorrows satellite anyway. Hopefully they will have me sorted by the time the Dublin sat arrives, if not i might contact you before that.

carfax

No worries Rounders,

Yeah I'm a bit worried now that nobody will play tomo night, lol....

The EPT satellite in the jackpot tomorrow night is very tempting.

Let me know how you get on and I will try to help if you're still having trouble.

Cheers.