Unfairly discriminated

Chillwithcian

I am a straight person, but i am disgusted by some actions of lads who love to slag off gays, les. and bi's. What is wrong with todays society that we cannot accept new cultures /ideas? Marrige is about LOVE not gender of race. What is it that defines gay people as wrong? Are people afraid of what they dont know, or do we tend to generilase/sterotype? Thoughts people?

Goodshape

Chillwithcian wrote:

What is it that defines gay people as wrong? Are people afraid of what they dont know, or do we tend to generilase/sterotype? Thoughts people?

Honestly? I'd blame 100's of years of social conditioning by religious forces.

Beyond that, I don't really know.

monkey tennis

It's the auld sheep mentality. I'd say a significant percentage of 'homophobic' people aren't really into it with any feeling, it's just that their mates will slag off 'fags' or whatever and they'll go along with it. If you go along with something for long enough, you'll start believing in it (or believing that you believe in it?). People so rarely use their brains for independent thinking anymore.

UU

Well I blame religion (mainly the Catholic Church) to begin with as it influenced the people's opinions on homosexuality for a long time. Today, Ireland is a more secular society though so that isn't really a factor for younger generations.

The problem with teenagers (and even kids) is that horrible word "peer pressure". They hear their friends using 'gay', 'lezzer', 'fag', 'queer' with such a negative air. Thus, it is obvious that they will pick up these stigmas and habits. Then it happens that somebody is gay and they'll pick on them because they're "different". If they weren't gay, they'd find some other thing to bully them over - whether it be race, religion, size, appearance, etc. I don't think it's so much that they are gay but moreso because they aren't a part of the club. I mean, just say their is a group of skangers and one of them comes out as gay, but he is just like them, wears the clothes, has the accent, the air, etc. and is well respected, it could be that they wouldn't mind. Of course their are teenagers out there who are homophobes and some of them are gay themselves but are struggling internally with their sexuality and how others will see them.

It's a problem these days which schools need to address greatly. When I was in school, teachers would speak out against the gay insults but if one said '******' or 'Arab scum', they'd be in hot water. Insults against sexuality should be at level with those of race, etc. Teenagers need to be informed about sexualities and stuff. I was never taught about that when I was in secondary school from 2000 - 2006. And that's not very long ago at all.

abetarrush

UU wrote:

Well I blame religion (mainly the Catholic Church) to begin with as it influenced the people's opinions on homosexuality for a long time. Today, Ireland is a more secular society though so that isn't really a factor for younger generations..

Burn the pope!

The problem with teenagers (and even kids) is that horrible word "peer pressure".

Thats 2 words!



Was jus thinkin about this today. theres a black family down the road from me, and they play with all the other kids, n everyone gets along

where on the other hand, the 15/16 year olds might as well be in the KKK

Its cool to hate people who are different, and not perfect like you

UU

abetarrush wrote:

Thats 2 words!



Was jus thinkin about this today. theres a black family down the road from me, and they play with all the other kids, n everyone gets along

where on the other hand, the 15/16 year olds might as well be in the KKK

Its cool to hate people who are different, and not perfect like you

Well put actually! And thanks for be so grammatical too. Yes, basically if one isn't part of the club, then they are considered inferiour and something to abuse. Sorta sounds like world conflict really! :rolleyes:

Chillwithcian

UU wrote:

Well put actually! And thanks for be so grammatical too. Yes, basically if one isn't part of the club, then they are considered inferiour and something to abuse. Sorta sounds like world conflict really! :rolleyes:

Exactly, i strongly think the department of education is pulling on the heels when it comes to homophobic bullying policys.

Twinkle-star15

Sometimes, though, a lot of kids use those words as insults without deliberately meaning any insult to the glbt community, and mainly say it because they know their parents/teachers/society don't approve.

Just to play Devil's Advocate .

Larry David

Chillwithcian wrote:

Marrige is about LOVE not gender of race.

Catholic marraige is about gender.

Chillwithcian

Larry David wrote:

Catholic marraige is about gender.

Well to hell with catholicisim, thats why im an agnostic now!

Annasopra

Larry David wrote:

Catholic marraige is about gender.

I'm sure the whole scarament of marriage is about so much more than gender. Anyway Civil Marriage in Spain, Canada, Holland, Belgium is gender blind - here's hoping Ireland will follow suit

Twinkle-star15

Johnnymcg wrote:

I'm sure the whole scarament of marriage is about so much more than gender. Anyway Civil Marriage in Spain, Canada, Holland, Belgium is gender blind - here's hoping Ireland will follow suit

OUI!

Aw, this makes me think of my granny...