Question Re: Cash Games

LuckyLloyd · 15-09-2006 10:36am #1

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eggie · 15-09-2006 10:52am

charge him VAT on his winnings as a penalty - Article ? Sixth Directive.

DubDani · 15-09-2006 10:57am

slightly off topic, but what seat were you in? Just want to put names to faces, as I was sitting at the table as well from the beginning.

p.s. I was already gone when this incident happened... Was it Norman (bold guy in seat 3) who commented about it, and then left?

5starpool · 15-09-2006 10:58am

There is a rule (posted on noticeboard, so not just a random one) in the Fitz that a player has to be gone from a game 1 hour before rejoining a feeder game to the one he left earlier.

I have also seen instances where a player left the 100 game with a good profit, went away for a couple of hours and sat back in the hundred game again with a lot less money. This I believe is not against the rules as 2 or more hours had passed, however there was a bit of bad feeling towards this player from some of the guys at the table (I was at an adjacent table) and this guy was told by the person in charge of the poker floor that they should not keep doing that as they had done it several times in the recent past.

I would not be a fan of either of these scenarios either. I am not sure I would kick up a fuss as I am generally a meek pussy at the table, but I would be liable to chip in my opinion depending on who the palyer was, or what was being said.

LuckyLloyd · 15-09-2006 11:03am

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DubDani · 15-09-2006 11:08am

Ah, I see now. I remember you. You were quiet compared to some of the others. :-) I was sitting in seat 8 or 9 (can't remember if it was 9 or 10 handed) until about 1, and then left.

eggie · 15-09-2006 11:09am

LuckyLloyd wrote:

As a VAT consultant I can confirm that there are no provisions in the Sixth Directive regarding the application of VAT to poker winnings.

I am grudgingly laughing at your post however....:)

Associate Consultant:D agreed.

ianmc38 · 15-09-2006 11:13am

Hmm I know the player in question, as I was chatting to him for a while after he left the main table. I think the rule is that he must be gone an hour before he can sit back down at a feeder table.

peeko · 15-09-2006 12:41pm

lads, a feeder table? Cash game? Same things?

LuckyLloyd · 15-09-2006 1:53pm

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opr · 15-09-2006 1:55pm

peeko wrote:

lads, a feeder table? Cash game? Same things?

Yes , In most of the casino's in Dublin they have a main table all of the other games going on around it are called the feeder games when one player leaves the main game a player form the feeder table joins the main table.

On the other point i don't like to see anyone doing this. I actually think it shows a real lack of confidence in the persons poker abilty if they want to get their big stack off the table. I also think its -EV as i have found it is much easier to intimidate and run over the table if you are finding it hard to see across you stack

Opr

Flushdraw · 15-09-2006 4:03pm

LuckyLloyd wrote:

2) He may have intended playing a round of each when he came back but that game never got going.
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I'm pretty sure i know who u are talking about aswel. He was looking for a round of each game which didnt happen and i'm sure if u gave him the chance, he would have rejoined the main table but thats also against house rules. If its any consolation, i was table 2 with him for 2 or 3 hours and he made a loss for the night!

LuckyLloyd · 15-09-2006 5:06pm

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Flushdraw · 15-09-2006 5:13pm

I'm not sure about the rules regarding joining feeder tables. Perhaps he should have sat down with exactly the money he left the main table with to avoid confusion. On ur other point earlier, to my knowledge, if u get busted at the main table, u can buy into a feeder table bu i'm not 100% sure

HalfBaked · 15-09-2006 7:11pm

I haven't seen the player in question do this before. If it became a frequent occurrence then I think the poker staff would speak to them.

eggie · 15-09-2006 7:24pm

Although he's possibly limiting his losses but hes also limiting his potential winnings as there is less money at the feeder tables in general.

Could also be viable reason for the move, if it became a regular trait then i'm sure the staff would catch on to this and take the appropriate action.

LuckyLloyd · 16-09-2006 11:19am

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pppspecial · 19-09-2006 1:43pm

again me involved. i had just got moved from a feeder game to the main table with 500. played the main game for half an hour. was card dead a mad table and i simply got bored with everything. consulted the pitt boss and said i wasnt happy with this new table so he suggested i go offcome back after half an hour and he will start me from scratch so i did. i was also interested in a round off each which never got going. i left the main game with 530. also norman the grump was also on this table which personally if i had a choice i will not play with him he is a twat off the highest order and to avoid any confrontation with him i just dont like sitting near him.

poker4life · 19-09-2006 1:59pm

pppspecial wrote:

norman the grump was also on this table which personally if i had a choice i will not play with him he is a twat off the highest order and to avoid any confrontation with him i just dont like sitting near him.

I agree, he annoys the tits off me too. In fact I know a player who stopped playing on the Dublin scene because of that guy.

hotspur · 19-09-2006 3:45pm

Does the SE have an official rule on the time that has to elapse before you can return to play? Less than an hour seems strange. But having said that there perhaps ought to be some way to change tables in certain circumstances where you don't want to play on the table due to non-poker playing reasons. Playing with Norman could certainly be one, although there's a far more egregious character who regularly plays in the SE, Ritchie I think his name is (middle aged moustache, kinda balding - not Eamon but looks like him), incredibly insulting, aggressive, racist individual whose presence there not only dissuades me from playing at the same table as him but I won't even play in the SE anymore because the management indulge his behaviour.

Hectorjelly · 19-09-2006 3:59pm

This thread highlights 2 of the main reasons why live poker sucks

1 Game Selection
2 Being forced to spend intimate time with people like Ritchie (im pretty sure I know who you are talking about )

fixer · 19-09-2006 7:40pm

Live poker in Dublin, anyway. At the Commerce, there are 20 tables of 100NL (2-3 blinds) at any given time, and you can request a table change any time.

cardshark202 · 19-09-2006 8:24pm

poker4life wrote:

I agree, he annoys the tits off me too. In fact I know a player who stopped playing on the Dublin scene because of that guy.

I have no problem with him. Always been good to me.

jbravado · 19-09-2006 8:33pm

I saw said "grump" give back half the pot to a youngish guy who was visibly upset due to a dealer error.Not many around who would do the same.

Ok he can snap when he takes a beat but who doesnt.I think hes grand and can be a bit of banter if hes winning.

poker4life · 19-09-2006 9:01pm

cardshark202 wrote:

I have no problem with him. Always been good to me.

That's fine, but I do.
He drove my mate out of the game by continual harrassment and being an asshole. Sure he can be funny, but he's also a twat imo.

5starpool · 20-09-2006 9:42am

Your mate should not be so sensitive. He should post on the PI forum about it. I can see how he would get on yout tits, but I have no problem with him, and get on grand, but I can see no situation where someone being an asshole to me would drive me out of poker unless I didn't really like it to begin with and was looking for an excuse.

poker4life · 20-09-2006 9:52am

5starpool wrote:

Your mate should not be so sensitive. He should post on the PI forum about it. I can see how he would get on yout tits, but I have no problem with him, and get on grand, but I can see no situation where someone being an asshole to me would drive me out of poker unless I didn't really like it to begin with and was looking for an excuse.

That's just BS. Not be so sensitive? You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Its not quite as simple as that.
I think its generally accepted that people being bullied or whatever can't simply remedy it by not being "so sensitive". The problem lies with the bully.
Again, fair enough you have no problem with him, I do.
You wouldn't be driven out of poker, bully for you, but that's you, not anyone else. Situations do exist for other people where that can happen.
And to suggest the person doesn't like poker and its an excuse is total and utter nonsense. This guy loves the game, just doen't play in Dublin anymore coz of Norman. You're way off with your analysis there.

5starpool · 20-09-2006 10:30am

Fair enough then. There may be more to it that meets the eye I suppose.

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