Budget self-build

willietherock

After reading all the self-build threads on here I'm thinking of taking the plunge. This is from someone who 2 months ago know next to nothing about the working of a computer.
I play a lot of online poker (need decent screen resolution), do a lot of surfing (dial up, no broadband). Play some games , the likes of Chanmpionship Manager,Sim City ect, nothing too flashy.
Could I get a decent rig together for less than €600 ? Or is this wishful thinking?
I have Windows XP cds,speakers,keyboard,mouse and CRT monitor.

challengemaster

WISHFUL THINKING!!!!!!!!!


you'd be lucky to get ram and a recent cpu for that..

Buceph

willietherock wrote:

After reading all the self-build threads on here I'm thinking of taking the plunge. This is from someone who 2 months ago know next to nothing about the working of a computer.
I play a lot of online poker (need decent screen resolution), do a lot of surfing (dial up, no broadband). Play some games , the likes of Chanmpionship Manager,Sim City ect, nothing too flashy.
Could I get a decent rig together for less than €600 ? Or is this wishful thinking?
I have Windows XP cds,speakers,keyboard,mouse and CRT monitor.

First off, the guys who made Championship Manager 3 and previous left with their database and make the Football Manager series now. Check out http://www.sigames.com. Now for the bad part, Football Manager and Championship Manager will take whatever power you can throw at them, apart from graphics, the more the better.

What do you have at the moment component wise?

conzy

Are you joking challengemaster?

From Ankermann

- INTEL Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86Ghz FSB 1066 S.775 2x2MB: € 0.00
- ASRock 775Dual-VSTA (PCIe- AGP8x-SATA-I)
- PCI-e 256MB ATI RADEON x800 GTO TV-out & DVI: € 84.90
- IDE 200 GB Western-WD2000JB (8MB cache-7200rpm): € 31.90
- 256MB DDR-II RAM G-Skill CL4 533MHz
- DDR-II upgrade from 256MB to 1024MB TRANSCEN PC667: € 59.90
- DVD-R Samsung 16x/52x IDE SH-D162C
- DVD-RW LG GSA-H10-N 16x/16x MULTIFORMAT + & - DL (CaseColor): € 33.90
- Ankermann Tower 6x USB 2.0
- Intel CPU cooler
- 525W MAXSILENT 525Watt 2xSata 20/24Pin: € 19.90
- Realtek ALC888 8 channel audio
- 10/100 Ethernet LAN

€629.50 inc vat and delivery

Just take it apart and put it back together :P

Ankermann have a good choice of components, you wont be able to build anything as good as that if you buy individual components, so just pick the components on Ankermann and let them worry about building it

B0X

Well i picked out these parts off komplett, i think they'd make a great budget PC. You could skimp a little more on the graphics card (maybe get a X1600?) to get it a bit cheaper. (The one i have picked is really very good for its price)

challengemaster

wtf free core 2 duo ?

and ffs 256 mb ram, you call that decent... psssht.

i guess our ideas of a DECENT PC are different

B0X

He upgraded it to 1024.

challengemaster

lol missed that. im tired bleeh. imo a decent gaming pc should have atleast 2gb ram. then again im into ut and what not ^_^

willietherock

conzymaher wrote:

Are you joking challengemaster?

From Ankermann

- INTEL Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86Ghz FSB 1066 S.775 2x2MB: € 0.00
- ASRock 775Dual-VSTA (PCIe- AGP8x-SATA-I)
- PCI-e 256MB ATI RADEON x800 GTO TV-out & DVI: € 84.90
- IDE 200 GB Western-WD2000JB (8MB cache-7200rpm): € 31.90
- 256MB DDR-II RAM G-Skill CL4 533MHz
- DDR-II upgrade from 256MB to 1024MB TRANSCEN PC667: € 59.90
- DVD-R Samsung 16x/52x IDE SH-D162C
- DVD-RW LG GSA-H10-N 16x/16x MULTIFORMAT + & - DL (CaseColor): € 33.90
- Ankermann Tower 6x USB 2.0
- Intel CPU cooler
- 525W MAXSILENT 525Watt 2xSata 20/24Pin: € 19.90
- Realtek ALC888 8 channel audio
- 10/100 Ethernet LAN

€629.50 inc vat and delivery

Just take it apart and put it back together :P

Ankermann have a good choice of components, you wont be able to build anything as good as that if you buy individual components, so just pick the components on Ankermann and let them worry about building it

Just take it apart and put it back together. lol. I may just end up doing that.
I dont understand what the DDR11 Ram update 256MB to 1024MB TRANSCEN PC667 means. Is this a mixture of two different sizes RAMS or what?

willietherock

B0X wrote:

Well i picked out these parts off komplett, i think they'd make a great budget PC. You could skimp a little more on the graphics card (maybe get a X1600?) to get it a bit cheaper. (The one i have picked is really very good for its price)

Thx for that Looks v interesting. Will check it out fully later.
Is the GForce 7300 GS PCI EXPRESS card be a decent alternative?

juliuspret

conzymaher wrote:

Are you joking challengemaster?

From Ankermann

- INTEL Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86Ghz FSB 1066 S.775 2x2MB: € 0.00
- ASRock 775Dual-VSTA (PCIe- AGP8x-SATA-I)
- PCI-e 256MB ATI RADEON x800 GTO TV-out & DVI: € 84.90
- IDE 200 GB Western-WD2000JB (8MB cache-7200rpm): € 31.90
- 256MB DDR-II RAM G-Skill CL4 533MHz
- DDR-II upgrade from 256MB to 1024MB TRANSCEN PC667: € 59.90
- DVD-R Samsung 16x/52x IDE SH-D162C
- DVD-RW LG GSA-H10-N 16x/16x MULTIFORMAT + & - DL (CaseColor): € 33.90
- Ankermann Tower 6x USB 2.0
- Intel CPU cooler
- 525W MAXSILENT 525Watt 2xSata 20/24Pin: € 19.90
- Realtek ALC888 8 channel audio
- 10/100 Ethernet LAN

€629.50 inc vat and delivery

Just take it apart and put it back together :P

Ankermann have a good choice of components, you wont be able to build anything as good as that if you buy individual components, so just pick the components on Ankermann and let them worry about building it

Ive been a long time fan of self builds....but that site has got some great deals!!

Have you used it yourself?

If so could you give us details on shipping and such as its very tempting for future purchases!!!

Skud

looks savage, good site

DVD-Lots

I've been ranting about these guys for months now, they are brilliant. Got my rig a few weeks back and I have no complaints, had it built and shipped to me in just over a week. Got a Conroe E6400, 1GB G-skill Ram, 256MB X1900GT and 250GB HDD and all the rest for €800, plays Oblivion at ultra high settings with no probs. Highly recommend these guys, seriously.

um7y1h83ge06nx

Great to hear they're a good company. Heard of them ages ago and was tempted to take the plunge and buy, but wanted to hear some feedback first.

They are extremely tough to beat on price, sometimes cheaper than self builds!

DVD-Lots

yeah, I even managed to convince the company I work for to buy a basic Conroe system and use as a test server. They have always gone with Dell but as this is a non critical piece of hardware, the next day on-site warranty isn't needed. For the same config Dell were looking for over €1000, I got it from Ankermann at €570!!!! My mate has 1 too and he's very happy, and I have 3 other people very interested in getting systems from them, maybe I should start looking for commission!!

juliuspret

DVD-Lots wrote:

yeah, I even managed to convince the company I work for to buy a basic Conroe system and use as a test server. They have always gone with Dell but as this is a non critical piece of hardware, the next day on-site warranty isn't needed. For the same config Dell were looking for over €1000, I got it from Ankermann at €570!!!! My mate has 1 too and he's very happy, and I have 3 other people very interested in getting systems from them, maybe I should start looking for commission!!

Do they make any fuss over credit card payment like PixMania as I had to scan bills and such for them which delayed the delivery!

The price they charge for shipping is fixed but it just takes longer to get here?

Honestly, if I had know about them 3 weeks ago I would have certainly used them!!!

DVD-Lots

no probs with CC, my m8 did it that way and all he had to do was ring them with the details. I opted for COD which was sooooo handy. I ordered the PC on a Wednesday, they had it Shipped Monday evening and I had it first thing Thursday morning so no real delay imho.

I think a lot of people should be made aware of these guys as they really are unbeatable on price, even for self build. Also, the build quality was excellent for me, real neat and tidy, everything looked well on the inside.

Naux

DVD-Lots wrote:

no probs with CC, my m8 did it that way and all he had to do was ring them with the details. I opted for COD which was sooooo handy. I ordered the PC on a Wednesday, they had it Shipped Monday evening and I had it first thing Thursday morning so no real delay imho.

I think a lot of people should be made aware of these guys as they really are unbeatable on price, even for self build. Also, the build quality was excellent for me, real neat and tidy, everything looked well on the inside.

What VAT rate did they charge you on the invoice as a matter of interest???

DVD-Lots

VAT charged @ 16%

juliuspret

DVD-Lots wrote:

VAT charged @ 16%

Thats Germanys VAT isnt it?

I wish there were more German online shops accepting Irish credit cards.
They are ALWAYS the cheapest due to the economy of scale thing.

jes.de only do the money transfer thing these days....are there any CC accepters left?

Oh the COD....how did that work out..?
Did you have to pay the delivery man all the money up front or what?

willietherock

conzymaher wrote:

Are you joking challengemaster?

From Ankermann

- INTEL Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86Ghz FSB 1066 S.775 2x2MB: € 0.00
- ASRock 775Dual-VSTA (PCIe- AGP8x-SATA-I)
- PCI-e 256MB ATI RADEON x800 GTO TV-out & DVI: € 84.90
- IDE 200 GB Western-WD2000JB (8MB cache-7200rpm): € 31.90
- 256MB DDR-II RAM G-Skill CL4 533MHz
- DDR-II upgrade from 256MB to 1024MB TRANSCEN PC667: € 59.90
- DVD-R Samsung 16x/52x IDE SH-D162C
- DVD-RW LG GSA-H10-N 16x/16x MULTIFORMAT + & - DL (CaseColor): € 33.90
- Ankermann Tower 6x USB 2.0
- Intel CPU cooler
- 525W MAXSILENT 525Watt 2xSata 20/24Pin: € 19.90
- Realtek ALC888 8 channel audio
- 10/100 Ethernet LAN

€629.50 inc vat and delivery

Just take it apart and put it back together :P

Ankermann have a good choice of components, you wont be able to build anything as good as that if you buy individual components, so just pick the components on Ankermann and let them worry about building it

I dont understand to memory configuration. Is this 256MB + 1024MB RAM, or something else?
Are the 2 dvd drives necessary?

PogMoThoin

willietherock wrote:

I dont understand to memory configuration. Is this 256MB + 1024MB RAM, or something else?
Are the 2 dvd drives necessary?

:rolleyes: Its the price they charge to upgrade you from 256mb to 1024mb. 256mb comes with the package originally.

Dvd drives cost fcuk all, i'd add 2, easier to copy disc to disc.

EOA_Mushy

conzymaher wrote:

Are you joking challengemaster?

From Ankermann

- INTEL Core 2 Duo E6300 1,86Ghz FSB 1066 S.775 2x2MB: € 0.00
- ASRock 775Dual-VSTA (PCIe- AGP8x-SATA-I)
- PCI-e 256MB ATI RADEON x800 GTO TV-out & DVI: € 84.90
- IDE 200 GB Western-WD2000JB (8MB cache-7200rpm): € 31.90
- 256MB DDR-II RAM G-Skill CL4 533MHz
- DDR-II upgrade from 256MB to 1024MB TRANSCEN PC667: € 59.90
- DVD-R Samsung 16x/52x IDE SH-D162C
- DVD-RW LG GSA-H10-N 16x/16x MULTIFORMAT + & - DL (CaseColor): € 33.90
- Ankermann Tower 6x USB 2.0
- Intel CPU cooler
- 525W MAXSILENT 525Watt 2xSata 20/24Pin: € 19.90
- Realtek ALC888 8 channel audio
- 10/100 Ethernet LAN

€629.50 inc vat and delivery

Just take it apart and put it back together :P

Ankermann have a good choice of components, you wont be able to build anything as good as that if you buy individual components, so just pick the components on Ankermann and let them worry about building it

Man i have been out of the loop for a while. When did these guys pop up? Are they reliable?

Never mind the questions, I was shocked at the price. Mental note "read the rest of the thread"

willietherock

PogMoThoin wrote:

:rolleyes: Its the price they charge to upgrade you from 256mb to 1024mb. 256mb comes with the package originally.

Dvd drives cost fcuk all, i'd add 2, easier to copy disc to disc.

DOH!
Another stupid q. This needs a 56kmodem card?

PogMoThoin

willietherock wrote:

DOH!
Another stupid q. This needs a 56kmodem card?

Its got onboard ethernet for bb. Very few pc's comin with modems now unless you ask for it.

Naux

DVD-Lots wrote:

VAT charged @ 16%

I reckon that Ankermann would be in deep s**t if the German taxman audits their operation!!!! I'm open to correction but I thought that the VAT laws on internet orders within the EU were changed in the past year or two.I think they should be charging VAT based on the country that they deliver to (ie) 21% for Ireland.

Its all good for us customers though 5% cheaper:D