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doe, how long does it last for??

  • 14-09-2006 11:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭


    I have a vehicle testing pass certificiate here,
    it was issued on the 11/4/6.
    this is only the test part of getting the doe, on the back it says:
    "this state ment must be exchanged at a motor taxation office for a certificate of roadworthiness, for which a fee is payable"

    so.... is my carvan doe'd, or do I have to go and get the cert of roadworthiness. and if so, for how long???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    As far as I know, commercials need a DOE test every year. I think you do need the certificate of roadworthiness to get it taxed etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Redrocket


    thanx stephen, hows things??
    anyone else know if they need the test every year??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    Since January 2005 all commercial vehicles (at least light commercials under 3.5ton) have to be DOE'd every year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Light commercials used to have a 2 year DOE and everything else had to do it every year, but everything has a 1 year DOE now.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Redrocket


    thanks for the clarification guys


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Rudolph Claus


    Rovi wrote:
    Light commercials used to have a 2 year DOE and everything else had to do it every year, but everything has a 1 year DOE now.

    .
    Another racket! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭SGKM


    Yeh,they have to be DOE'd every year. And that certificate that you have isnt a Certificate of Road Worthiness(an official DOE test cert),so it probably doesnt count as a DOE cert as you have to exchange it for a Certificate of Road Worthiness in a motor tax office for 13 euro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭overdriver


    Thats the greatest stroke of all. I had to do it yesterday. What a load fo nonsense. Why can't the testers give you a CRW? Rubbish.
    Ker-ching!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    stevenk wrote:
    I have a vehicle testing pass certificiate here,
    it was issued on the 11/4/6.
    this is only the test part of getting the doe, on the back it says:
    "this state ment must be exchanged at a motor taxation office for a certificate of roadworthiness, for which a fee is payable"

    so.... is my carvan doe'd, or do I have to go and get the cert of roadworthiness. and if so, for how long???

    One year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Redrocket


    thanks crosstown,
    if it's doe'd, does that mean i pay car tax or commercial tax??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    stevenk wrote:
    thanks crosstown,
    if it's doe'd, does that mean i pay car tax or commercial tax??
    If it was accepted and tested for a DOE, it'll be a commercial. The word 'Goods' should appear somewhere in its '(J.2) Motor Taxation Class' on the Registration Certificate.

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭overdriver


    See? There's an upside!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭Doctor14


    Ok,

    Have an issue with the expiry dates for DOE Certs.

    My current DOE Cert runs out on 15 Dec 2012. So I got the van tested last week (29 Nov) and went in to get the new DOE Cert today. They told me that the new cert can only be dated from 29 Nov and does not carry on from the old cert.

    Last year when I went to renew it, the carried it on from the previous Cert (15 Dec 2011 to 15 Dec 2012) but now my certs overlap for nearly 3 weeks and I am losing nearly 3 week because of it.

    This also means that, if this is the case, I will have to leave the test to the last possible minute next year in order to get my moneys worth.

    Did the person I dealt with get it wrong? Should it be dated from the expiry date of the previous Cert or the test date?

    I know the NCT is from the expiry date of the previous Cert, but what about the DOE Cert?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    It's exactly 12 months from the date of test. None of this nonsense like the NCT where it can be backdated to the expiry date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Doctor14 wrote: »
    It isn't nonsense. By renewing it from the expiry date, you force the person to test it each year around the same time period.

    It is. I've bought cheap cars without an NCT and then only getting a cert for 9 months because it's been backdated? Nonsense. There is nothing stopping from letting the cert expire and doing it at another time and when you test it your getting your moneys worth and getting a cert for exactly 12 months.
    Doctor14 wrote: »
    Seeing as you have 21 days to produce it if asked to, what stops you from getting it tested when asked?

    I would imagine you would have to have a valid cert at the time you were stopped. Same with the NCT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭Doctor14


    I'm not looking for a debate on it, I'm looking for the regulations that set down the expiry date for the DOE Cert.

    Anyone know them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ghogie91


    Apparently the DOE isnt from date that test was due as far as I know. Like ya know the way the nct could be done in sept while meant to be done in July its still counted as if it was done in july as regards the lenght of time its NCT'd for, basically you dont gain out of not getting it done for a month or two (in b4 get the guards to sign a letter)

    Where as the DOE is out in july, you get it done in september, its DOE'd until the following september. I could be sprayin' here like but i though thats how it works


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Doctor14 wrote: »
    It isn't nonsense. By renewing it from the expiry date, you force the person to test it each year around the same time period.

    What stops a person leaving it for a few weeks and then testing it? They are taking a small risk but are gaining a few extra weeks out of their cert. Seeing as you have 21 days to produce it if asked to, what stops you from getting it tested when asked?

    It is complete nonsense, and making a flawed system which is inconvencing plenty of honest people just to make it not worth to delay NCT for those who wish to do that is stupid.
    They should introduce normal system where your cert if valid year or two from time of test. And introduce heavy fines for those who drive without test. And actually start enforcing it. That's it.


    Doctor14 wrote: »
    I'm not looking for a debate on it, I'm looking for the regulations that set down the expiry date for the DOE Cert.

    Anyone know them?

    If I were you, I would just start new thread with your problem, as this one is going to closed very soon I suppose. It's 6 years old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2004/en/si/0771.html
    Certificate of roadworthiness

    15. (1) On presentation of a pass statement to an issuing authority, accompanied by the fee appropriate to the class of vehicle in accordance with Regulation 11(3), the authority shall issue for the vehicle a certificate of roadworthiness in the form specified in Schedule 4.

    (2) A certificate of roadworthiness for a vehicle is in force from the date of its issue up until the expiration of 12 months from the date of the test in respect of which the pass statement was given under Regulation 14.

    (3) A certificate of roadworthiness issued under the Regulations of 1991 to 2004 which is in force immediately before the commencement of these Regulations continues in force until the date specified on the said certificate to be the date of expiry.

    12 months from test date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭Doctor14


    BX 19 wrote: »
    12 months from test date.

    Thanks for that. Not what I wanted to hear but at least I have it in writing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    BX 19 wrote: »
    You have your answer. Thread closed.


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