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Girls asking blokes out...

  • 13-09-2006 9:13am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭


    I was reading through This Thread on Personal issues and it got me thinking about all the times i've randomly given phone numbers and asked girls out. Then it dawned on me, I have only ever been asked out by one girl who was from Poland and made a special effort to come over to me and have a chat. I've gotten plenty of 'yes you may chat me up looks' (and then gone in for the kill) but the vast majority of girls just don't do it imo :confused: leaving me to make the effort.

    Today I just want to know why? Perhaps it's an Irish thing, I would have no problem going up to a girl in a pub/club and after a chat ask for a phone number bu it often pass girls in said places commenting on some random Fabio over in the corner saying how cute he is etc but none of them actually follow up on it??? The mind boggles. In the UK it's totally different if your a looker girls will queue to talk to you. It's not just me lots of people (guys) feel the same.

    So, is there some sort of secret code of conduct i'm unaware of? Or is this just some sexually repressed culture we have yet to shake off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Love2love


    I asked out my current boyfriend but only when I realised that he was too shy to ask me out. He thought that he wouldn't stand a chance with me (for some strange reason). Maybe this is a possiblity for some girls also. They don't want to appear desperate - I don't really know. But I do know other girls who ask men out and they always get a yes! ;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've done it a good few times but only when I’ve been 1000% sure he wasn't going to turn me down

    And in one case the guy was there with his girlfriend and looking for an ego stroke by flirting with me, this has happened also to a few of my mates
    Those guy's are the best because usually one of his girlfriend’s mates is there and WW3 start's and usually end's with me saying (or screaming for effect) 'You have a girlfriend?!?!?!?!?WTF were you playing at asking me back to a party, SCUMBAG’ Similar situation happened to a mate of mine and his girlfriend gave him knee to the balls, my mate just stood there laughing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    I think 99% of Irish blokes make the first move. The reason that Irish girls don't do it is because they thing they might look desperate or something like that. It seems silly, but that's the way it looks.

    I agree with you OP, girls from other countries seem to be more out going and confident and approaching the opposite sex is like a natural impulse to them. Maybe Irish girls will grow out of this with the influx of other cultures in our society these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    i think girls in ireland know a good "talk to me" look is all they need to get a guy over, which usually works. if not, i've found rather then approaching a guy, they'll send a friend over to you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭Caco


    Supposedly 87% of men would love for a woman to take the first move!
    Personally I would too, it's just so uncommon and unique!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭greenkittie


    I always make the first move! Mainly cause i dont like most of the guys who make the first move on me. I like a wee chase...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭Caco


    Mainly cause i dont like most of the guys who make the first move on me.

    Thats one of the main reasons I don't like approaching women while out, I would hate to be seen as a sleazy drunk perv even though I don't come off as one! I just get the impression that if I were to approach a girl while out, that she would see me in the same light as alot of other sleazy/pervy guys who may have tried to chat her up before! I'm also just shy haha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭greenkittie


    Caco wrote:
    Thats one of the main reasons I don't like approaching women while out, I would hate to be seen as a sleazy drunk perv even though I don't come off as one! I just get the impression that if I were to approach a girl while out, that she would see me in the same light as alot of other sleazy/pervy guys who may have tried to chat her up before! I'm also just shy haha

    Awww, i think most girls can tell the difference between a sleazy drunk and a genuine guy. Its just my luck that most of the guys who approach me are of the sleazy drunk variety!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    I always chat up men! I asked my current boyfriend out in fact. I dunno,it's just that I notice a lot of guys eyeing me up but they rarely actually come over and talk to me.

    Some do,but others can be quite shy or nervous and if I go and chat to them they're usually surprised that I'm friendly. I've been told I look quite angry a lot of the time and I'm quite intimidating.

    Like everyone else,I get men groping me as they walk by or drunkenly coming over and trying to kiss me without saying a word,but I find it refreshing when a guy actually comes over and chats with me.

    I'm sick of men assuming that I wouldn't be interested. Woo me dammit!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 404 ✭✭Doctor Fell


    LadyJ wrote:
    Woo me dammit!

    Woo!!! Woo woo woo!!!!!

    Phhhhwoooaaahhh!!! /pant pant pant

    My pleasure...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    I've done it a good few times but only when I’ve been 1000% sure he wasn't going to turn me down
    This seems to be the main reason women cite as why they don’t ask men out. It would appear that men are better equipped to handle rejection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    LadyJ wrote:
    I always chat up men! I asked my current boyfriend out in fact. I dunno,it's just that I notice a lot of guys eyeing me up but they rarely actually come over and talk to me.

    Some do,but others can be quite shy or nervous and if I go and chat to them they're usually surprised that I'm friendly. I've been told I look quite angry a lot of the time and I'm quite intimidating.

    Like everyone else,I get men groping me as they walk by or drunkenly coming over and trying to kiss me without saying a word,but I find it refreshing when a guy actually comes over and chats with me.

    I'm sick of men assuming that I wouldn't be interested. Woo me dammit!

    I wish I knew more people like you when I was younger then instead of poor Ruu having to do all the chasing and asking. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    This seems to be the main reason women cite as why they don’t ask men out. It would appear that men are better equipped to handle rejection.

    Yeah I think a lot of women find rejection just too embarrassing. Some men do as well but moreso women,I find.

    Personally,I always think it's kinda funny being rejected (in a chatting up situation that is). It's only ever happened to me twice,as far as I remember,but it was hilarious both times.

    I think a lot of people seem to invest too much into their ability to "score" and so rejection is a huge blow. However,everytime I chat someone up I just see it as chancing my arm. It's not like I know the guy,I just think he's hot so who cares if he's not interested? Maybe I'm just not his type. There are plenty of men that I consider good looking and nice to talk to but it doesn't mean that they're necessarily my type.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭ferdi


    ah getting rejected is a great laugh, personally i dont think a night has been successful unless i've been shot down.

    and i've maintained a very successful track rocord, let me tell you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 463 ✭✭greenkittie


    LadyJ wrote:
    I always think it's kinda funny being rejected (in a chatting up situation that is).

    I quite agree, mostly, i find the guy looks rather embaressed by the whole thing. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    LadyJ wrote:
    Yeah I think a lot of women find rejection just too embarrassing. Some men do as well but moreso women,I find.

    Personally,I always think it's kinda funny being rejected (in a chatting up situation that is). It's only ever happened to me twice,as far as I remember,but it was hilarious both times.

    .

    Totally agree.Its healthy to get rejected every know and again to keep egos in check etc

    Ive asked out every guy ive ever gone out with bar one. Saying that I would have done it in a really subtle way. Becoming friends first and then saying do you want to meet up sometime or something along those lines. Its quite sad actually that in 23 years only one guy has gotten my number and asked me out..poor panda!However all the relationships Ive had has ended disastrously cos I suppose I always had this underlining feeling that I had asked them out and if they had really liked me they would have asked me out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Getting embarrassed by rejection is awfully secondary-school-ish. I don't think any adults actually laugh at that or tell their friends "Ah jaaaysus that girl asked me out, what a muppet!"

    Maybe it's an Irish-girl thing, don't know (not Irish myself). I don't see a problem with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Laslo


    Judging by this thread the fact that, in general, Irish men chat Irish women up and not the other way around makes the majority of Irish women sexist! You can't have your cake and eat it girls :D Now get those chat-up lines ready...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Belle_Morte


    Laslo wrote:
    Judging by this thread the fact that, in general, Irish men chat Irish women up and not the other way around makes the majority of Irish women sexist! You can't have your cake and eat it girls :D Now get those chat-up lines ready...

    Some of us already have ;) although I don't know if I count as I'm not Irish.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    ferdi wrote:
    ah getting rejected is a great laugh, personally i dont think a night has been successful unless i've been shot down.

    and i've maintained a very successful track rocord, let me tell you!

    That sounds like a cool healthy attitude, seriously it does!!! :cool: :D :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    Darragh29 wrote:
    That sounds like a cool healthy attitude, seriously it does!!! :cool: :D :cool:

    you have to joke when rejected. the kind of "i'm not fired, i quit!" type of thing just to lighten the mood before moving on to the girls mates :D

    (note: i swear i'm not speaking from experience)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭Nala


    I have no problem going up to a lad if I've already made eye contact with him, I am not shy once I've a few drinks on me but I'd only go up to him if he was on his own on only with one or two friends. I remember a lad coming over out of nowhere once and asking me to dance in front of my friends, I didn't like him so I told him I had a boyfriend but I felt awful cos my friends were all watching and I said no!

    Most of the people I've met in a club came up to me first though, often out of nowhere. I never seem to notice a lot of them before they come over.

    Oh yeah, and I hate the ones that just stare and stare but don't come over. Drives me mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    I would thoroughly enjoy getting approached in that kind of situation.

    Someone mentioned earlier about girls not taking a rejection as well as guys... reverse power-trip?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Feral Mutant


    Nala wrote:
    Oh yeah, and I hate the ones that just stare and stare but don't come over. Drives me mad.
    AAAH I've been discovered :eek: *jumps out of bushes and runs off*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    i've never been asked out by a woman, so i'm putting myself out there now.
    ladies of boards.ie, i'm a 30 year old bum. who wants to touch me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭GAA widow


    Raekwon wrote:
    I think 99% of Irish blokes make the first move. The reason that Irish girls don't do it is because they thing they might look desperate or something like that. It seems silly, but that's the way it looks.

    Yeah, I agree with you. Personally I would never have approached a guy - not out of shyness or anything like that but if a guy does the approaching and the spadework I think he appreciates you more in the long run after putting in the downtime and effort. Decisiveness is attractive in males.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Hmm, so it's 'being decisive' when a man does it, but 'desperate' when a woman does.
    What about the men who've decided quite concusively that they're desperate for a shag? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭GAA widow


    Hmm, so it's 'being decisive' when a man does it, but 'desperate' when a woman does.
    What about the men who've decided quite concusively that they're desperate for a shag? :D

    Yeah basically. Who says they're definitely going to get a shag though?!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 638 ✭✭✭theTinker


    Nala wrote:
    Oh yeah, and I hate the ones that just stare and stare but don't come over. Drives me mad.

    oh so u girls notice....damn....:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭Trinity


    I asked a guy out once and i dont think i would be too quick to do it again.

    He was dead late for our date - i mean dead late, i had to call him to see if he was coming. Under normal circumstances i wouldnt have waited but having taken the time to get ready organising the babysitter etc there was no way i was going home!

    fast forward a month it transpired he had a girlfriend at the time and only finished with her after seeing me a couple of times and realising he liked me. Have to say i was shocked as he was a very quiet guy from the country.

    In the end he liked me a hell of a lot more than i liked him so i decided never to trust my own judgement again :D

    I'm with the others, gets lots of stares but few come over until they are pissed and then they are really wasting their time. I suppose it is unfair of me to assume that men can handle rejection better than women but i suppose thats what i grew up with, men ask women if they like you enough or wnat to enough. Although i am old school now :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭GAA widow


    Trinity1 wrote:
    men ask women if they like you enough or wnat to enough.

    That's it in a nutshell really!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭Trinity


    GAA widow wrote:
    That's it in a nutshell really!

    Yeah and if they *want* too also :o

    note to self - spellcheck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    wyndham wrote:

    I love when something interesting pops up in between all this 'blah blah blah.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭Susannahmia


    I'm too shy to ask a guy out so I'm kinda glad i'm not really expected too!! Lazyness tbh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Well, id be in the 'dont like rejection, so dont randomly ask many girls out' camp, its a lonely place to be. I think the important thing to know is that rejection is rarely anything personal, cud be she has a boyfriend/too busy, etc. and just not looking for a relationship.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    It's a culture thing to a large degree. Since overseas I've found that the States is not uniform either. In some parts, like So Cal girls are allowed to be more forward, where in the farming mid-west, they are not. Guys in So Cal like it when a girl approaches them, whereas, guys from the farming mid-west might think that the girl is easy or loose (and they can get a bad rep for appearing that way).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Kastro


    to be honest im just sick of women... i have bin with nothing but phycos and ive taken a step back to re-evaluate myself and wake up..
    but it would be odd and interesting having the girl make the first move.. nothing 2 strong tho.. its happened once or twice and it was a no no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 nasher


    I dont think i would ask a guy out unless i knew he was too shy and i knew he liked me .A few of my girl mates have in recent months all ending in failure.Me ,i couldnt take the rejection .There is no point in chasing a guy, he is either interested or not if he really liked ya in my opinion he should go after the girl its all part of the fun!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Kastro wrote:
    to be honest im just sick of women... i have bin with nothing but phycos and ive taken a step back to re-evaluate myself and wake up..
    We all feel like that at some points man.

    Anyway girls asking out, it rarely happens, but it has a few times to me and I loved it.
    I am more of a let somebody come over to me kind of person.
    I wish more would do it and I find it funny that when taken girls seem to flock about you, whereas when single, that never happens. Maybe I'm an exception or something, I just always find that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 111 ✭✭punky


    Fair play to girls who ask lads out. No reason why they shouldn't. I never felt it was weird.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 87 ✭✭WunderFull


    I don't chat up. I flirt, but not obviously - rather I horse around and I generally get a good idea from that. Secondly, I would rather a guy who relaxed and enjoyed my company rather thatn looking for an ego massage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 521 ✭✭✭EOA_Mushy


    Every one ask every one out.

    Whether its on physical attraction or other wise. You will only find out the other detail after. THEN you can make another decision.


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