Veronica Mars - Season 3 Promo..

Basq

Click here!

Looks good.

Hope it doesn't disappoint me as much as parts of last season... sure, the dialogue was still sharp and snappy and Kristen Bell is still fantastic and should have won an Emmy 2 - 3 times over now.

But the whole (SEASON 2 SPOILER)

bus crash storyline tied in with Beaver was just horribly contrived.

PS - back October 3rd by the way!

pokerwidow

Thought the trailer looked kind of cheap, this one however was done on the cheap but looks good (season1&2 promo, not season3)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNuqjuDWngI

Fast_Mover

Ya, season3 looks good, her in college: new characters and what not.
Kristen Bell is brilliant indeed!!

BolBill

Veronica Mars = Not funny

tvnutz

BolBill wrote:

Veronica Mars = Not funny

What? Its not a comedy.

Fast_Mover

It's a drama series BobBill.
Have you ever watched it at all even?!

iguana

Though it certainly does have it's funny moments. I was very nearly tempted to change my sig to; 18 - IT'S LEGAL!

Logan looks really awful in the promo shot.

doh.ie

basquille wrote:

Click here!

Looks good.

Hope it doesn't disappoint me as much as parts of last season... sure, the dialogue was still sharp and snappy and Kristen Bell is still fantastic and should have won an Emmy 2 - 3 times over now.

But the whole (SEASON 2 SPOILER)

bus crash storyline tied in with Beaver was just horribly contrived.

Couldn't agree more. Great start to the season, but for a show with an outstanding first season, the second was very weak. Quite rare to have a better first year than the second - Everwood had a similar exceptional success in writing in the first year and much less in those that followed.

The second season mystery had huge potential, but was squandered, and I'm sure the writers did not know what they were doing with it villian-wise when they wrote and planned 2x01.

Let's hope for a stronger season 3. The show is definitely overlooked in Emmy terms, but shows perceived as being for 'teens' are never properly recognised there.

October 3rd, Veronica's back and October 4th it's Lost - gonna be a good start to the month!

iguana

doh.ie wrote:

The second season mystery had huge potential, but was squandered, and I'm sure the writers did not know what they were doing with it villian-wise when they wrote and planned 2x01.

No, they knew

Beaver would be the 2nd season killer when they introduced him in season 1. Although he was only made guilty of raping Veronica at the end of the 2nd series, I suspect as they wanted Veronica to feel more empathy with the Hearst rape victims in season 3

doh.ie

Had to avoid the end bit there, but I still think as mysteries go, it was flimsily pieced together. There were several elements which did work

(Beaver's reluctance to get closer to Mac, the missing person from the conversation, the constant mayor sexuality hints), but it all didn't fit nearly as well or as neatly as the Lily investigation. In fact, Veronica's STD connection to Beaver seemed to be, to me, an afterthought as well.

They say they planned it all out in advance, so it's just a pity its transition to TV script seemed to lose some of the plan.

iguana

I think that the season 2 story had a lot of potential, but it wasn't realised. The revelation scenes played out like a Scooby Doo denoument. I remember watching it in horrified fascination, and every minute brought more, you can not be serious snorts out of me. My husband had watched the entire 2 series but was at work when I watched "not pictured" and couldn't be bothered to watch it once he saw my reaction.

I'm only coming back this year for Cliffie. If he's not there I'm not either.:D

doh.ie

iguana wrote:

I think that the season 2 story had a lot of potential, but it wasn't realised. The revelation scenes played out like a Scooby Doo denoument. I remember watching it in horrified fascination, and every minute brought more, you can not be serious snorts out of me. My husband had watched the entire 2 series but was at work when I watched "not pictured" and couldn't be bothered to watch it once he saw my reaction.

I'm only coming back this year for Cliffie. If he's not there I'm not either.:D

LOL @ Scooby Doo. The actual "I did it!" scene on the rooftop was definitely played out with a "And I've have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you" style confrontation. Meh. Did a bit of reading earlier on, and you're spot on on the groundwork being laid in the final episodes of season 1 for what was to come, but, crikey, if they were going to plan something so early on, you'd think that'd be even more reason for them to have gotten it right.

Just remembered, too, that the not-great-mystery with Jackie wasn't greatly executed either. OK, so we found out she was a great waitress at one point and were supposed to store that away, but it really didn't amount to a hill of beans. Was there ever any mention of

her mother beforehand? Did we get told that the person we expected her to be (i.e. Terrence's wife) was dead?

So much ran so quickly in that last episode, you couldn't help feeling let down, I thought. If maybe the Jackie stuff was cleared up beforehand, and some of the red herrings had been laid to rest, it mightn't have seem so cobbled together.

Hopefully Rob Thomas and Co will have read fan reaction to the finale and see the sense in a more carefully constructed mystery that pays off well rather than careers off a cliff like a school bus.

Oh, and I'm sure Cliff will be back. Too good a character not to use again. (Not that it's stopped them from building up background characters only to barely use them. I'm convinced the programme regularly overspends on guest cast - and main cast (Duncan's non-appearance for half a season) and winds up not using someone again due to finances. They seem to say to an actor, "We'll have you in seven episodes over the course of the season" and then end up having to give them eps 1, 2, 3, 15, 18, 21, 22 - the effect to the viewer being, "Oh, Wallace's mother! I remember now...!" And since US programmes have to pay their main titles credited actors whether they're in the show or not - Colm Meaney often cleaned up on DS9 through this when he was off filming Irish movies - why not ditch Duncan from the credits after 2x12 so they could use that money for something else?

Basq

Cliffie rules...

.. but people, where's the love for Vinnie Van Lowe? The guy stole every scene he was in last season. One of my highlights of last season was the scene (i can't remember the exact circumstances) negotiating with Keith and coming forward to reveal himself handcuffed behind bars.

PS - echoing practically everything doh.ie said above... amen to that brother!

doh.ie

Basquille - great minds think alike, obviously! Must be a Sligonian thing!

So true - Vinnie is another woefully underused guest character, but he's great when he's in it. This year, they gave Lamb a great central role - I'd like to see that kind of presence being given to Vinnie or Cliff. Most of the time, they turn up so irregularly, casual fans have to be wondering who they are.

For a lot of season 1, I thought they should have made more use of Mac, so I was pleased her role was beefed up in season 2 (though they kind of did some damage to her towards the end.) Would like to see her revisit her real mother at some point to give her character some more depth. Ironically, she had her most depth in her first-ever appearance.

tvnutz

It was something to do with his contract,they couldn't remove him from the credits because he had signed the contract before. In smallville

they didn't remove Jonathon Kent from the credits after he died.

doh.ie

tvnutz wrote:

It was something to do with his contract,they couldn't remove him from the credits because he had signed the contract before. In smallville

they didn't remove Jonathon Kent from the credits after he died.

Hmm, good point. A contract thing makes sense, probably finalised as season one drew to a close. But that would mean they signed him up for a full year, and then chose to lose the character half-way through. Not great financial sense, cos they had to pay him either way. (Same thing with Boone in Lost, and possibly Shannon too, though her credits didn't run all year.)

If anything, for their screen time, Dick, Beaver and Jackie could have remained just Guest Stars. (Jackie was in it a lot in season 2 up to about ep 8, then her appearances were a lot less frequent and for shorter screen time.) If anything, Sheriff Lamb appeared a lot more than all three of those.

elurhs

I'm fairly hopeful for the new season. Rob Thomas seems to have learned his lesson and is splitting it up into three self-contained sections. This should make it a lot easier to maintain the momentum of the mysteries. There's going to be two new characters so hopefully they will do the business. More Mac and Lamb should also be an improvement.