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  • 11-09-2006 8:41am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭


    Just got the word that Airspeed/A.P.T. have been awarded the contract for Greystones skatepark.
    Anybody who's been to Bushy will know that this is a very good thing.
    I think work is due to start in the next few weeks, tho the final plans need to be ironed-out first.

    With Bushy finally bein fenced & Lucan ready to open very shortly, we're FINALLY gettin there. :):):)

    Cheers,

    JohnBoy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 607 ✭✭✭Kenjd


    Great! Things are really coming on these days! Its going to be great with all these new parks!!! FINALY :):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭skate4evr


    wow irelands skate scenes really looking up :) cant wait to go skate the parks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Mark Wojton


    Just wanted to clarify. Greystones will be built by Jezza and myself. We've worked for all sorts of different companies and we are working in Ireland under AP Thompson. It will still be siiiiiiiiickkkkkkk!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 sdjustin


    sounds sick does any1 have a link to the plans ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭JahEerie


    I'm sure they'll be sorted pretty soon cos everybody involved is keen to get it goin
    - Mark (previous poster) & Jez will be da lads to talk to
    There's a good local crew too, so plenty of input

    JohnBoy


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Mark Wojton


    I can say this much, it won't be all bowls. There will probably be a 6ft spined bowl area and several original banked ledge type street obstacles, a step up banked ledge type deal, wall rides, jersey barriers as well as a few traditional obstacles such as a pyramid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭AJG


    The Greystones/Bray skaters and bikers are working real close with Mark and co on this one.

    The main thing is to keep it original.

    Too many of the park designs are pretty boring so hopefully we can make this park somewhere you'll keep wanting to come back to.

    Wish us luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fisheye


    Why did Airspeed win over Freestyle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭AJG


    I can't really get into specifics regarding a private tender on a public forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fisheye


    The tender was advertised and public; if it were a private tender, nobody would have known about about it. Those who'll be skating it should know why one company was chosen over the other. Send me a private message if you don't want to disclose any "sensitive" information.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭AJG


    Sorry that came out a bit garbled. It was indeed a public tender. But there was a private meeting between council members, skaters and bikers to discuss the merits of each design and it was a very close race. I'll leave it at that. I really don't want to get into specifics. Sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Mark Wojton


    Updated Conceptual design for Greystones. Subject to additional onsite modifications.
    We started yesterday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭f


    looks good, how long will construction take


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭skate4evr


    looks good, a little empty tho! it could do with a full bowl :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fisheye


    Updated Conceptual design for Greystones. Subject to additional onsite modifications.
    We started yesterday.
    Overall good. Personally, I'd add more to that central, low manual pad thing in the middle - make it taller, add a step up ledge to it somewhere; put a ledge on top of the pyramid on the RHS in image 3; change the jersey barrier rail thing to a hubba so it can be used for manuals and make a more defined hip on that part with the upward sloping ledge on it. Looking good so far - what are the dimensions?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭f


    a set would be nice, but that would kinda ruin the whole bowl thing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭h-street23


    Where is the greystones park being built? near charlesland? and when will it be skateable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭JahEerie


    The site is just passed the gym (Jackie Skelly?) & running track
    Strange site - downhill & kinda dog-legged
    Should be interesting.

    The real build (exacavation) has just started so it'll be 10 weeks or so I think
    Mark is at da helm, with Jezza from Oz (both of em built Bushy) so it should be a good job. There's been a lot of local input from both skaters & bikers so people should be happy with the outcome.

    JohnBoy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fisheye


    Jezza was one of the main men who built Lucan. He was also involved with the Malmo skatepark and built a ton of them in Australia over the past 5 years. Top man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭f


    http://www.goreyskateclub.com/gallery/albums/goreyskatepark/gsp.sized.jpg

    how come these are the plans on gorey skate club , htey got progress pictures as well which is cool


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭skate4evr


    that look so sick! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭h-street23


    Gorey too-****in legend.I've been waiting for skateable facilities since 1987.20 years.****.


    Ireland is at least 20 years behind the times though....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Mark Wojton


    I just wanted to explain a concept. You'll find that the better parks in the world are built "design build". One company has complete control over the whole process from conception to completion. No decent builder enjoys building someone elses design as much as doing their own .This allows the designer builder to modify the park throughout the construction process based on soil conditions, available materials, user input, the spots the local take you to,....thanks Phil and Andrew, and so on...
    Critique a design...but don't think any competent builder would prefer to waste time modifying a design when they are proactively modifying the concrete reality of the project as true distances, relative speed and flow become apparent in the dirty work. In other words, time and money spent on a computer could be better spent in steel and concrete...peaceout.


  • Site Banned Posts: 59 ✭✭boarderco


    the only and best way to do things is yourself.
    that how mike n me built rampnrail. but we had the problems of wall,roof and space. and we built it all for have the price of anything the coucils have come up with. but at least they are trying. 20 years late . but better late than never
    5 ,6 years ago there were no parks in the country ... so its coming along sllllloooowwllly.

    it cant rain forever!! or cant it...


    www.boardercoeire.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Mark Wojton


    Here' some image so of the latest greystones design. Left some open space up top for some ledges, flat bar etc. We were kicking around the idea of putting some pool coping on the clamshell this evening. Maybe an artifical grass gap as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fisheye


    Got an overview?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Mark Wojton


    Here's a work in progress overview. We're still fine tuning the upper section based on how much dirt we have left.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭f


    this park looks great, probably the best park in ireland if this gets built like the plans. I like the odd ness of some of the obsticles. definitley room for a rail , the one thing lucans lacking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭AJG


    There will probably be some type of flatbar but probably no handrail as such and definitely no stairs. No stairs at all. Whats the preoccupation with youngsters and their stairs.

    But seriously, the people involved in designing the park were really after some odd stuff. Its great that there are other concrete parks cropping up and while this is a great thing they all seem to be on the plain side.

    I made sure all the skaters/bmx'ers got together and sweated over the design. Many thanks to Mark for his patience. Hopefully it will all come together.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fisheye


    Bragging rights, just to say "I flipped down 12 stairs". You're right though, useless in a skatepark unless it's a 3up3down like the one in UCD or that church on the southside.
    Here's a work in progress overview. We're still fine tuning the upper section based on how much dirt we have left.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/79473/35044.jpg

    You see that short stumpy ledge at the top tier just before the bank down? What about extending that down the bank, along the next flat to either stop at the top of the next bank or go down it so it's essentially a double/triple kink ledge? And wide enough to do manual tricks down it? It only needs to be 3-4 ft wide. Looking good so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭f


    fisheye wrote:
    Bragging rights, just to say "I flipped down 12 stairs". You're right though, useless in a skatepark unless it's a 3up3down like the one in UCD or that church on the southside.



    You see that short stumpy ledge at the top tier just before the bank down? What about extending that down the bank, along the next flat to either stop at the top of the next bank or go down it so it's essentially a double/triple kink ledge? And wide enough to do manual tricks down it? It only needs to be 3-4 ft wide. Looking good so far.
    ah they wouldnt be useless if they buiilt a plaza or a big park to skate in . like finland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fisheye


    There's no steps in that Helsinki plaza. Can you ollie up 12 stairs? Anything over 3 or 4 small steps becomes negative space as you can't get up them and it kills all flow. A bank of the same size means you can go up it, do stuff into it, out of it or over it to the flat. With a bunch of steps all you can do is tricks over/down it. Simple as. Large flights of steps in skateparks are utterly pointless...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭f


    fisheye wrote:
    There's no steps in that Helsinki plaza. Can you ollie up 12 stairs? Anything over 3 or 4 small steps becomes negative space as you can't get up them and it kills all flow. A bank of the same size means you can go up it, do stuff into it, out of it or over it to the flat. With a bunch of steps all you can do is tricks over/down it. Simple as. Large flights of steps in skateparks are utterly pointless...
    nah i meant like build a park like that ! sets are pointless in parks youve tought me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭smois


    f for how long now have i told u that there is no point in buildin sets in parks???:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭f


    smois wrote:
    f for how long now have i told u that there is no point in buildin sets in parks???:D
    shut up u smois, u seemed to go missing for 2 days there:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭smois


    make it three and maybe five on friday. here i need a new deck spread the love with one of your old ones. have to say greystones looks nice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭f


    smois wrote:
    make it three and maybe five on friday. here i need a new deck spread the love with one of your old ones. have to say greystones looks nice
    bradys gonna ge tyou eventually , you cant stay out forever:D ill give you my old rasa libre one, its my only other deck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 marcomolo


    hey guys, has the greystones park been finished yet. I'm lookin forwrd to givin it a go and i'll be in the city tomorrow.

    I've been to the Gorey one and it's a bit smaller than i expected but a skatepark's better than none and Grant Masterson and The gorey skaters/boarders/bikers put a lot of work into it. Fair play to them.

    One in every town i say!!!
    M:D


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