Action Jackson

Hectorjelly

I know nothing about this guy bar ivey totally outplaying him, but Im just in the middle of watching the Monte Carlo millions and he just bet 25,000 into a 611,000 pot with a full house on the river. I nearly fell of my chair. He gave the guy 20-1 to call!

delanec8

Crazy fold by Kenna James all the same

Ste05

Hectorjelly wrote:

I nearly fell of my chair. He gave the guy 20-1 to call!

And the guy folded??

Hectorjelly

Board of KJT,x,J and the guy folded KT.

luckyvegas7

folded k10 for that pot? lmfao...must a been a tough laydown!!!:)

anyone fancy heads up on ppp,

Hectorjelly

yeah what stakes

luckyvegas7

i just got busted...

set on flop.

lost.

why d didnt utg re raise the bb's $4 raise with aa! i wuda folded my ducks

hang on ive 1.75 left! ... for a dollar then. ill sit at one

NickyOD

He was at my table in the €800 event in June. He wanted to be able to play on his laptop while at the table and wasn't aloud. He was incredibly rude about it. I thought he played ok, but I didn't see how he went out. His bet sizing was defintely very odd though, especially the preflop 2.5BB raises and 1/5 the pot flop bets.

Hectorjelly

luckyvegas7 wrote:

i just got busted...

set on flop.

lost.

why d didnt utg re raise the bb's $4 raise with aa! i wuda folded my ducks

hang on ive 1.75 left! ... for a dollar then. ill sit at one

ive got the $1 1by1 stt open. Say hello and ill sit down!

ul btw

luckylucky

Hectorjelly wrote:

I know nothing about this guy bar ivey totally outplaying him, but Im just in the middle of watching the Monte Carlo millions and he just bet 25,000 into a 611,000 pot with a full house on the river. I nearly fell of my chair. He gave the guy 20-1 to call!

FYI He's very well known on Ladbrokes poker - his alias there is actionjack and he has an excellent record in mutlis there - i think he has been top iof the yearly board on more than one occasion - he's certainly always there or thereabouts, there was a big article on him in some poker mag i read recently he has supposedly made several hundred thousand from playing mutlis online, apparently he multi-tables in them.

CoD

He used to, maybe still does, that The Poker Godfather program, where he went round some regular players house, and they entered a $100 FO or rebuy, and he guided them through it, talking about hands and tactics compared to what the guy would usually do.

luckyvegas7

Hectorjelly wrote:

ive got the $1 1by1 stt open. Say hello and ill sit down!

ul btw

sorry fell asleep ... next sat!...mayb ill go abit crazy and go for a $5 1x1 stt

gosplan

Hey All,

Just wanted to add my thoughts on the now closed 'HJ is a fascist' thread.
IMO HJ you're a scumbag. You've said you were partially joking but that’s enough for me to identify you as a di**head and I don't doubt that in a large way your 'joke' mirrored your view on life.

Was everyone in Ireland pre 80's a failure? Do your s**thead theories include economic realities or do you just find it self gratifying to swap privilege for success?

What the f**k have you done? A few people in the poker world know your name or your pseudonym? You think that you can equate a bank balance to superiority or?

Either:

a: you live the rest of your life an asshole oblivious to the finer realities of life.

b: at some ripe old age you finally grow up and realise that maybe money isn't the benchmark of success or failure.

It's ****ing people like you that jeopardise what you mankind’s path to the stars with your ****ing neanderthal attitude.

W**KER

staringelf

ok, i'll chime in as well seeing as this thread is pretty much not going anywhere interesting anyway and has now gone off topic.

i agree, HJ you should be banned. if you really believe what you said in the other thread that's disgusting. however, i think you should be given a chance to retract what you said and apologize to the forum but failing that if i was a mod i'd ban you completly for what you said.

aaaand, in before the lock.

Lafortezza

gosplan banned for a week.

What exactly should HJ be banned for? Maybe I missed it. Someone can't be banned for their opinion in most cases.

staringelf

lafortezza wrote:

gosplan banned for a week.

What exactly should HJ be banned for? Maybe I missed it. Someone can't be banned for their opinion in most cases.

from the forum charter sticky:

3. Outbursts of personal abuse/racism/hissy fits/sarcastic jibes/newbie bashing etc. will not be tolerated. These posts will be deleted. Punishment Type - A or B at the Moderator's discretion depending on the severity of the post.


Punishment Types

A - Instant Ban for minimum of one week (length of ban at the discretion of the Moderator).
B - Anything from a warning to a banning at the discretion of the Moderator.

Lafortezza

Hi staring elf, like I posted in the other thread, lets try not to get off the topic of this thread. Please pm with quotes of what you found unacceptable.

Hectorjelly

You must be taking the piss! racism! At no stage did anyone even mention different ethnic groups.

staringelf

Hectorjelly wrote:

You must be taking the piss! racism! At no stage did anyone even mention different ethnic groups.

excellent, i knew you'd say that. i'm assuming that racism includes fascism, sexism and all the other isms that are collectively and usually all grouped under the one heading of being racist.

or is it ok to be a fascist? after all they believe in cleansing those with inferior genes from the gene pool don't they?

Hectorjelly

staringelf wrote:

excellent, i knew you'd say that. i'm assuming that racism includes fascism, sexism and all the other isms that are collectively and usually all grouped undere the one heading of being racist.

or is it ok to be a fascist? after all they believe in cleansing those with inferior genes from the gene pool don't they?

Racism does not refer to the other isms no.

Im not a facist, someone else mentioned killing disabled children, I didnt. I believe in democracy (to a certain extent anyway) which rules out facism for me.

Facism is actually quite a broad term and refers to many past groups with quite different idealogies.

The way you are acting is much more in line with being a facist than me. Facists are generally anti-intellectual and dont believe in freedom of speech.

mickste

HJ , this topic has gone off the original point , but you were out of line.
Be the bigger man and apologise, it's not that hard.

Try it, sure u can do it with sarcasm if u want. just do it

cardshark202

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I can see where both sides are coming from, but there is no need to call anyone any names for giving their opinions. I think people can take things to the extreme. What HJ said is perfectly valid but people can argue for and against it without resorting to 'banworthy' tactics.

Daithio

Just read through the other thread after being away for a few days. Pretty interesting reading, but yeah, why does every thread nowadays have to descend into a scathing personal attack on someone or other? People are entitled to their own opinions, discussion forums would be pretty pointless otherwise.

I don't entirely agree with what HJ said, but there definitely is evidence to suggest that if people don't have to work to survive then they will become dependant on welfare, which is definitely not a good thing. I don't think HJ was saying that giving to charity in all cases is bad. He's hardly arguing that starving children in Africa are starving through fault of their own, but simply that if people who could work, and otherwise would, become dependant on welfare then it creates a whole load of social and economic problems that will be very difficult to solve down the road. There is alot of sense to this argument. Holding this opinion doesn't make you a fascist or a rascist, and not holding this opinion doesn't give you some sort of moral trump card to play any time you like. The dispute is precisely that one person thinks welfare systems are immoral, and another thinks that they are moral, so to attempt to solve it by claiming that your opinion is more 'moral' than the other (as ROONEY_DIVES did) is completely begging the question. And the personal attacks are just silly, have you two even met each other in person?

The Snapper

Mods
I dont wish to join in the ethics / morality themed ongoing debate. However, I am concerned that.

1/ There is suitable section for such issues to be discussed. Please use it.

2/ This is the second thread hijack from the " I hate HJ folk".:(
Now, while HJ can present as a condescending SOAB at times, I think he means well and has taken the time to contribute some valuable analysis to many poker problems posted on here. I value his poker opinions and reading his posts has improved my game and !! Thats why I read & post on the poker forum

So, can we keep threads on topic please.:mad:

DapperGent

It's hard to run from the thought police. Especially when they're so very stupid.

poker4life

Daithio wrote:

The dispute is precisely that one person thinks welfare systems are immoral, and another thinks that they are moral

With respect I think you are way off the mark here. That is not what the dispute is about at all. The welfare system is neither mentioned nor alluded to.
I'm not attacking anyone, but lets be honest and accurate about what was said!
HJ never mentions the welfare system, I don't know how you can possibly read that from what was actually said. His argument seems to be that poor people are somehow detrimental to society, that they are undeserving of help, and that they are holding back the progress of humanity ( the whole "progress to the stars" thing). I totally disagree with that.
And the line should be drawn somewhere - everyone is entitled to their opinions is BS. If I advocated that all Jews are detrimental to society, that they are undeserving of help, and that they are holding back the progress of humanity and should be deported to work camps, would my opinion be tolerated?
Welfare is never mentioned once.

FastMachine

For god sake, HJ made an off the cuff humorous remark and it's dragged out over 4 pages and 3 threads, some people need to lighten up a bit. No need to take personal offence at a few amusing non-pc comments.

FastMachine

And I'm not a big fan of poor people either, what have they ever done for the rest of us.

Davey Devil

As a poor college student, Chuck Norris went to the local sperm bank to make some quick cash. He retired later that day.

Not all poor people are doomed. Just 99.99% of them.

Daithio

poker4life wrote:

With respect I think you are way off the mark here. That is not what the dispute is about at all. The welfare system is neither mentioned nor alluded to.
I'm not attacking anyone, but lets be honest and accurate about what was said!
HJ never mentions the welfare system, I don't know how you can possibly read that from what was actually said. His argument seems to be that poor people are somehow detrimental to society, that they are undeserving of help, and that they are holding back the progress of humanity ( the whole "progress to the stars" thing). I totally disagree with that.
And the line should be drawn somewhere - everyone is entitled to their opinions is BS. If I advocated that all Jews are detrimental to society, that they are undeserving of help, and that they are holding back the progress of humanity and should be deported to work camps, would my opinion be tolerated?
Welfare is never mentioned once.

I used the term 'welfare system' as an easy way to denote what I perceived HJ to have a problem with. He had a problem with 'giving $$$ to the poor', which is exactly what a welfare system is and does. There's not much point in getting caught up in semantics, I suppose I was trying to outline HJ's arguments in less sarcastic terms so that certain people would see that the personal attacks aren't necessary just because of a difference in opinion.

Oodges

poker4life wrote:

I'm not attacking anyone,

That's interesting given you also said

"This vermin is referring to handicapped people as "it" - I'm not a violent person, but posters like that drive me to violence. I would love to inflict serious pain on whoever that is. Really."

In response to one of my posts, Now at this juncture I'd like to apologise for not knowing the sex of Hectorjelly's hypothetical baby and hence referring to it as "it" and not as either he or she. I suppose I warrant serious pain being inflicted on me, for not taking the excessive amount of time to say "the child" each time I was referring to it. -(whoops, I mean each time I was referring to the child)

Just to clarify "it" is not considered a derogatory term
- * It (pronoun) is a third-person neutral pronoun in the English language.

Vermin on the other hand is generally considered offensive, as is the wish to inflict serious pain on people without good reason. Perhaps in future you should be a little calmer, and a little less reactionary. If my post inspired such rage in you, you'd probably get a hernia from just reading the paper. -(it says it in there a lot too.... I mean "The paper" says the word it a lot too-
didn't mean to offend newspapers there...)


So perhaps you'd either like to apologise to me, or retract the statement that you're not attacking anyone?

poker4life

Daithio wrote:

I used the term 'welfare system' as an easy way to denote what I perceived HJ to have a problem with.

Well I think that's not correct - seems to me HJ has a problem with individual charity, not state charity. So welfare system doesn't apply imo. You're right though, its semantics we're arguing I suppose.
I appreciate that you're trying to cool it down, and at the risk of flogging a dead horse, let me say I believe anybody who needs help should be given it. Boo hoo, but that's my opinion. Nothing wrong with the dole etc, society should be judged by how the weakest and most in need are treated imo.

The Snapper

Hectorjelly wrote:

I know nothing about this guy bar ivey totally outplaying him, but Im just in the middle of watching the Monte Carlo millions and he just bet 25,000 into a 611,000 pot with a full house on the river. I nearly fell of my chair. He gave the guy 20-1 to call!

anyone any comment on this !!!:mad:

Sangre

Rofl, I'm so sorry for starting all this!

poker4life

Oodges wrote:

So perhaps you'd either like to apologise to me, or retract the statement that you're not attacking anyone?

Apologise to you?
lol
Really, lol.
I'd rather not. You're right though, I am attacking you. I'm not convinced your retraction is genuine. I've no time for people like you who sneer at other people like that - your comment about handicapped people insulted me. That's my opinion. I dislike you intensely because of that. No apology, you must be off your rocker.

poker4life

The Snapper wrote:

anyone any comment on this !!!:mad:

Ye, sorry. I just love a good argument! Pity the other thread was locked.

ArmaniJeanss

The Snapper wrote:

anyone any comment on this !!!:mad:

On the face of it, it looks stupid.

Possibly hero had a read that his oppo had some sort of hand, and hero was trying to induce a raise so he could then put in a decent 3-bet ???

RoundTower

actually I thought HJ was very insulting in that thread, he suggested that I might overplay 22 preflop.

cardshark202

RoundTower wrote:

actually I thought HJ was very insulting in that thread, he suggested that I might overplay 22 preflop.

Did you report the post to the mods? You can have him banned for this.

The Snapper

ArmaniJeanss wrote:

On the face of it, it looks stupid.

Possibly hero had a read that his oppo had some sort of hand, and hero was trying to induce a raise so he could then put in a decent 3-bet ???

Gotta love the weak lead

Oodges

poker4life wrote:

Apologise to you?
lol
Really, lol.
I'd rather not. You're right though, I am attacking you. I'm not convinced your retraction is genuine. I've no time for people like you who sneer at other people like that - your comment about handicapped people insulted me. That's my opinion. I dislike you intensely because of that. No apology, you must be off your rocker.

Ok, so now we have established you are a liar and you were in fact attacking me.
I can detect no sneer in my comment, and since I wasn't commenting about handicapped people-(just pointing out that HJ wouldn't need the baby put down) -it's fair to say I was not making a retraction in my above post, merely clarifying my comment for people such as yourself who seem to struggle with the finer points of the english language.

poker4life

Oodges wrote:

I can detect no sneer in my comment, and since I wasn't commenting about handicapped people-(just pointing out that HJ wouldn't need the baby put down) -it's fair to say I was not making a retraction in my above post, merely clarifying my comment for people such as yourself who seem to struggle with the finer points of the english language.

No, you have the problem with comprehension here. Perhaps you should be put down? Ha ha ha, so funny. Or at least you should be stopped from having kids? lol, that's hilarious.
You did make a retraction. You clarified that you did not intend "it" to be derogatory. I don't believe you though. Its comments like "HJ wouldn't need the baby put down" that make me think you are not sincere and that p*ss me off. You are jokingly referring to people like animals, or worse. Except you are not really joking I suspect. That is the "sneer"ing quality of your posts.
You are talking about putting down babies (in jest of course) etc, and that's the finer point of the english language???
Use your fantastic understanding of english to see if you can work out what I think of you.

Sinfonia

poker4life wrote:

(in jest of course)

.

ArmaniJeanss

JFC lads, this is a poker forum, there must be a forum better suited to this argument.

I've been contributing to boards and AAM for about a year, and The MotleyFool for about 5 years, and have never seen ANYONE have their opinion changed by a political argument on a dicussion board. So why bother?

On topic, it reminds me of a gholi thread (i think), about how if a 1% of pot bet gets called 100% of the time, and an all-in bet gets called 1% of the time, then is either bet wrong? Maybe that was in ActionJacksons mind.

Anyway I'm p1ssed out of brains and off to play $3 STTs on Tribeca if anyone wants a rest from the politics. jbowie is the name.

Oodges

I did not make a retraction: see 2 below:

re‧trac‧tion 
1. the act of retracting or the state of being retracted.
2. withdrawal of a promise, statement, opinion, etc.

I stand by my statement that he wouldn't need to have the baby put down, so I have not made a retraction. So it seems it isn't just the word "it" that you have trouble with.
As for the rest of your post, I can't really see why you're being so irrationally aggressive, perhaps you shouldn't read internet forums if you take offense so trivially.

White Knight

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Jackson_(poker_player)

Jackson is described by Jesse May as "The most successful tournament player in Ladbrokes poker history and one of the most successful players in online poker history."

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Hectorjelly wrote:

I know nothing about this guy bar ivey totally outplaying him, but Im just in the middle of watching the Monte Carlo millions and he just bet 25,000 into a 611,000 pot with a full house on the river. I nearly fell of my chair. He gave the guy 20-1 to call!

Post Oak Bluff surely? (from my reading of Harrington on Holdem Volume 2!)

p.s. my cousin has given me e-book PDF versions of Harrington vol 1-2-3. If anyone wants me to email them a copy then PM me. (or get my email address from my website in my sig)

Lafortezza

Thread closed since the original post was lost somewhere amongst all the handbag waving.

Take it to Humanities.

Poker4life and Oodges, if you can't debate something without attacking the poster then don't post at all.