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  • 05-09-2006 11:20am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭


    I'm not backing any of these but they are the results of a new system I am working on, so lets see how they get on!

    Laytown
    3.45 Tango Step 11/2 unplaced
    4.15 Kleinova 7/4 2nd
    4.45 Speagle 6/1 1st
    5.15 Zimushka 5/1 unplaced
    5.45 Eagle's Pass 7/1 unplaced
    6.15 Spring Charm 10/1 unplaced

    Catterick
    2.30 The Nifty Fox 3/1 unplaced
    3.00 Knead The Dough 11/1 2nd
    3.30 Alugat 12/1 3rd
    4.00 Glenbuck 9/2 1st
    4.30 Mister Arjay 9/2 2nd
    5.00 Bold Marc 6/1 unplaced
    5.30 Moonlight Fantasy 11/1 unplaced

    Leicester
    2.10 Baldovina 4/1 unplaced
    2.40 kaladar 8/1 unplaced
    3.10 Border Artist 4/1 unplaced
    3.40 Aryaamm 4/1 1st
    4.10 Dixie Belle 16/1 2nd - went off at 50/1
    4.40 Ajaan 3/1 unplaced
    5.10 Dubai Twilight 9/4 2nd
    5.40 Lysandra 13/2 1st

    Lingfield
    1.50 Mount Hermon 2/1 2nd
    2.20 Gift Aid 5/1 unplaced
    2.50 Yadina EVS 1st
    3.20 She's Millie 25/1 unplaced
    3.50 Shebang 5/2 unplaced
    4.20 katiypour 4/1 2nd
    4.50 Sriology 11/2 unplaced
    5.20 Nando's Dream 4/5 3rd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Off to Laytwon in a couple of hours and you've picked two of my fancies there so hope this new system works ;o)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Hehe, have fun at Laytown! Have you ever been before?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Hehe, I think this system needs refining. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    From now on I'll leave the prices at SP. The system just produced at 50/1 2nd place. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Aido McGuiness has 2 runners and 2 winners there this evening, a lot to be said for the local trainers doing well at their local tracks, although we cant really class laytown as a track can we ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    You did get at least one winner for each meeting. If you adapted the Martindale system according the the odds on your selection, you would have been well ahead.

    However, there's always the day when one meeting doesn't provide any winners. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Lets try this again.

    Chantilly
    1.15 Numerieus

    Clonmel
    3.45 Dolce Dovo 2nd @ 4/1
    4.15 Samocean unplaced
    4.45 Rising Force 1st @ 11/4
    5.15 Ashlawn 3rd @ 7/1
    5.45 Soldrophina 3rd @ 25/1
    6.15 Eight Fifty Six unplaced
    6.45 Gravely Pint 1st @ 13/8
    7.15 Musical Mist

    Kempton
    2.10 Copernican unplaced
    2.40 Dumas unplaced
    3.10 Saint Elena 2nd @ 7/1
    3.40 Somersault unplaced
    4.10 Whatizzit 2nd
    4.40 Giving unplaced

    Southwell
    1.50 Didactic unplaced
    2.20 Malaaq 2nd
    2.50 Tom Tower unplaced
    3.20 Rabbit Fighter 3rd
    3.50 Go Tech 3rd @ 9/2
    4.20 Pacific Pride unplaced
    4.50 Bold Marc

    Uttoxeter
    2.00 King of Angels 2nd @ 7/1
    2.30 House Martin 2nd @ 11/2
    3.00 Kind Sir unplaced
    3.30 Present Oriented unplaced
    4.00 Incas 1st @ 13/2
    4.30 Little Task unplaced


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    This is the second last day I'll try this - providing there is no improvement that is.

    Chepstow
    2.00 Amazing Request 1st @ 8/11
    2.30 Beech Games unplaced
    3.05 No Recollection 3rd
    3.35 Sybella 3rd @ 5/1
    4.10 River Logic unplaced
    4.40 Tiber Tiger unplaced

    5.10 Carcinetto 2nd @ 9/1

    Haydock
    2.20 True Companion unplaced
    2.50 Tom Tower non-runner
    3.25 Muree Queen 3rd @ 40/1
    3.55 Quito 1st 11/8
    4.30 Breaking Shadow 3rd @ 13/2
    5.00 Dark Charm unplaced
    5.30 Uno 1st @ EVS

    Longchamp
    2.00 Getaway
    3.35 Blue Damask

    Southwell
    2.10 Pegasus Dancer unplaced
    2.40 Abunai 1st @ 9/4
    3.15 Stretton unplaced
    3.45 Into the Dark unplaced

    4.20 Power Politics 3rd @ 4/1
    4.50 Carnivore unplaced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Are you going to spill the bean on the system if tomorrow ends up being your last day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    It's just a little program I wrote which attempts to spot horses with potential to improve. This is just the first run. I really want it to work, so what I might do is change a few things. I'm not concentrating the draw at all yet. For now it concentrates on drops back in trip, tries to assess if it's still ahead of the handicapper, drops in class, positive jockey bookings considering previous jockeys, etc. It actually outputs 3 horses per race, and I post the one from those three which I think has the best chance (and I've been wrong alot! hehe). What I will do is if it fails to impress by tomorrow, I'll redesign it somewhat, post exactly how the new design works, and go from there. I'll also post the 3 selections it gives for each race and see how that works. What d'ya think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Go for it :D

    Im a little late and dont have much time to type but for the next one

    240 Southwell: Palo Verde


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Southwell

    315: Trick or Treat
    345: Into the Dark
    420: Power Politics
    450: Carnivore

    Haydock:

    250: First Mate
    325: Strobilus
    355: Polar Ben
    430: High Voltage
    500: Macroville
    530: Brocatello


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Sizzler wrote:
    Go for it :D

    Im a little late and dont have much time to type but for the next one

    240 Southwell: Palo Verde
    Fook me:eek: Abunai took off like a rocket there to win fairly handy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    I can't see past stretton in the 3.15 Sizzler. That's me after putting the jinx on it so it'll probably break a leg now! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    System sounds good. Well in.

    Are you still heading to Listowel the week after next?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Bluetonic wrote:
    System sounds good. Well in.

    Are you still heading to Listowel the week after next?

    Early days yet!

    Yeah I'm still planning on heading to Listowel. I'll be there for the racing on the Saturday and Sunday, provided nothing comes up in the meantime. Are you thinking of going mate?

    I think fade2black went a booked a holiday JUST so he doesn't have to come to Listowel. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    sjones wrote:
    I can't see past stretton in the 3.15 Sizzler. That's me after putting the jinx on it so it'll probably break a leg now! :p

    Im watching it ;) Crime Scene is my fear...we shall see!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    sjones wrote:
    Yeah I'm still planning on heading to Listowel. I'll be there for the racing on the Saturday and Sunday, provided nothing comes up in the meantime. Are you thinking of going mate?

    I think fade2black went a booked a holiday JUST so he doesn't have to come to Listowel. :D

    Yeah I'll be in Tralee (Staying in Tralee) from the Monday and racing the Tuesday until the Friday. Flight back to Dublin on the Saturday is subject to change depending on how well the week goes.

    Must PM you a number on the off chance I'll still be around on the Saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Well I got the first two home ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    I'm off to spec savers! :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    In the three days this has ran it has produced a 50/1 2nd place, 25/1 3rd place and a 40/1 3rd place, although that was 3rd from 3 :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Bangor-On-Dee
    2.15 European Dream 2nd @ 7/1
    2.50 Incas (my nb that won by 6l 2 days ago) unplaced
    3.25 Cardington unplaced
    4.00 Ellerslie Tom 1st @ 11/2
    4.35 Steppes of Gold 2nd @ 11/2
    5.10 Amadeus unplaced
    5.40 Wensleydale Star unplaced

    Kilbeggan
    4.10 Omas Leader unplaced
    4.40 Babyshan unplaced
    5.15 Bullhill Flyer 1st @ 12/1
    5.45 Lunar Light unplaced
    6.15 Deep Return 1st @ 9/4
    6.45 Good Old Days unplaced
    7.15 Golden Aran

    Sandown
    1.55 Tahafut unplaced
    2.30 Blue Maeve 3rd @ 13/2
    3.05 Border Edge && Personify 1st @ 7/2
    3.40 Mosharref 1st @ 5/1
    4.15 Red Gala unplaced
    4.50 And Again unplaced

    York
    1.35 Mudawin 3rd @ 11/2
    2.05 Wi Dud 1st @ 11/4
    2.40 Anna Pavlova 2nd @ 5/1
    3.15 Alcazar 2nd @ 11/2
    3.50 Voodoo Moon 2nd @ 15/2
    4.25 Fire Up The Band && Strike Up The Band 3rd @ 7/1
    5.00 Wake up Maggie 2nd


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    I'm about to jinx this sytem but so far only 2 selections haven't returned anything. Definitely a better day today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Corben Dallas


    keep it goin SJ, every one of yur York selections placed , nice work

    Steppes of Gold
    seems to be a quality horse, Amacelli had to dig deep to pull out a win, SogG travels beautifully, and Amacelli is a fine horse as well, did u see the race?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Cheers mate. I didn't see that race unfortunately. I am watching the days round up on ATR now though so hopefully they'll show it. Into the notebook it goes.

    Saturday 9th
    Bath
    2.15 Vaunt 1st @ 10/11
    2.45 Jost Van Dyke unplaced
    3.20 Candle unplaced
    3.50 Early Evening unplaced
    4.20 Desert Realm unplaced
    4.50 Hurry Up Helen unplaced

    Chester
    2.30 Fourfoot Bay unplaced
    3.00 Circuit Dancer unplaced
    3.35 Soulacrix 2nd
    4.10 Angus Newz unplaced
    4.40 Al Raahi unplaced
    5.15 Topflight Wildbird unplaced
    5.50 Squirtle unplaced

    Goodwood
    2.20 Compton's Eleven unplaced
    2.50 Caldra 1st @ 5/1
    3.25 Illustrious Blue 1st @ 11/4
    4.00 Minos 1st @ 11/10
    4.30 Desert Lord unplaced
    5.05 Theatre 2nd
    5.40 Overwing / Safari Mischief 1st @ 7/2

    Leopardstown
    1.40 Sweet Peak 3rd @ 10/1
    2.10 Lord Admiral / Royal Intrigue 3rd @ 5/1
    2.40 Ugo Fire unplaced
    3.15 Ireland's Call unplaced
    3.55 Ouija Board 2nd
    4.35 Galisitic unplaced
    5.05 Chivalrous 3rd
    5.35 Tikraar unplaced

    York
    2.05 Cape Royal unplaced
    2.35 Eagle Mountain 2nd
    3.10 Iffraaj / Quito 1st @ 4/6
    3.45 Sixties Icon 1st @ 11/8
    4.25 Stage Gift 2nd
    5.00 Simply Perfect 1st @ 4/1
    5.30 Bolodenka unplaced

    I'm going to do placepots on the English meetings. Where there is 2 selections in the one race, for example the 3.10 at York, I'll be doing two placepots for that meeting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    sjones wrote:
    Leopardstown
    3.15 Ireland's Call

    I put this horse in the "horses to follow thread", a little late however as only got 2 wins since, but I followed her since her first naas win (got a call off the track for her, wish I could say I paddock picked her myself but I didnt!).

    She's in alot better company today (see card below) and at 7/1 she's E/W fodder only IMO. Hopefully she'll win it, but Id be very surprised.

    http://www.irish-racing.com/v4card093200609091515.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Been following it for a while too. I don't think it will win either, Im going for a place. It's 8/1 with PP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    at 8/1 it is a definate E/W bet. King of Tory looks very good though

    what about Sling back each way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Good call on King of Tory mate.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Let down by one runner in the York placepot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    sjones wrote:
    Good call on King of Tory mate.

    pity I didnt back it! Im €300 down for the week. time to give it a rest.

    my last bet of the week will be 20 E/W on UCanStep at Cork tomorrow, but since Laytown Ive been doing crap so dont listen to me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭frodi


    €0.10 To Win - Trebles from 7 Internet 35
    2:20 HANDICAP 7f Comptons Eleven 5.00 (GP) Lose €23.13 €0.00
    2:50 LISTED STAKES 1m Caldra 5.00 Win
    3:25 HANDICAP 1m 1f Illustrious Blue 3.75 Win
    4:00 MAIDEN STAKES 1m Minos 2.20 Win
    4:30 LISTED STAKES 6f Desert Lord 4.50 Lose
    5:40 HANDICAP 5f Safari Mischief 5.00 Win
    5:05 HANDICAP 2m Theatre 2.62 Lose

    €0.10 To Win - Doubles from 7 Internet 21
    2:20 HANDICAP 7f Comptons Eleven 5.00 (GP) Lose €9.28 €0.00
    2:50 LISTED STAKES 1m Caldra 5.00 Win
    3:25 HANDICAP 1m 1f Illustrious Blue 3.75 Win
    4:00 MAIDEN STAKES 1m Minos 2.20 Win
    4:30 LISTED STAKES 6f Desert Lord 4.50 Lose
    5:40 HANDICAP 5f Safari Mischief 5.00 Win
    5:05 HANDICAP 2m Theatre 2.62 Lose
    Nice one SJ. I was a bit bored in work so I decided to do a few doubles & trebles using the selections from each track. This one cover the cost of all the rest and then some. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Good man frodi. :)

    Cork
    2.40 Dapple Dawn unplaced
    3.10 Miss Blarney Stone 3rd
    3.40 Golden Arrow 1st @ 11/8
    4.15 Aura of Calm 1st @ 5/2
    4.50 Charming Hymn fell at the last
    5.25 Euro Leader 1st @ 4/5
    5.55 Drumderry 1st @ 7/4

    Galway
    2.50 Spes Ultima 2nd
    3.20 Chomba Womba unplaced
    3.55 Aerlite Rooler unplaced
    4.25 Jawad unplaced
    5.00 Dix Villez fell
    5.35 Drive On unplaced
    6.05 Off The Mark non-runner

    Goodwood
    2.10 Montage unplaced
    2.40 Machinist 2nd
    3.15 Counterpunch 1st @ 5/6
    3.45 Primary unplaced
    4.20 Compton Court unplaced
    4.55 Dodge City 1st @ 11/8
    5.30 Yerevan unplaced

    Kempton
    2.20 Ishibee non-runner
    2.55 Verbatim unplaced
    3.25 Primo Gold 1st @ 7/2
    4.00 October Ben 3rd 8/1
    4.35 After The Show unplaced
    5.10 Scottish River unplaced

    Stratford
    2.30 Dazzling Jim 2nd @ 11/2
    3.05 Steppes of Gold 3rd @ 9/2
    3.35 Granite Man withdrawn
    4.10 Nesnaas 2nd
    4.45 Borehill Joker 2nd
    5.20 Truckers Delight 1st @ 11/4
    5.50 Shiwawa / Iris's Flyer 1st @ 4/9

    Not going to do any placepot betting today. The racing isn't the best to be honest. I do have strong fancys for Steppes of Gold, Aura of Calm and Dix Villez today.
    Aura of Calm was a Mullins reserve who won last time out at 20/1, coming from literally nowhere to destroy the competition in a matter of strides at the end. It showed lots of potential.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    It would not effect the winner, however, Miss Blarney Stone had to be snatched up when Starspangled hit the front and got in it's way causing Miss Blarney Stone to lose second place. As this is Irish racing, I'm fairly sure there will be no enquiry. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    sjones wrote:
    Aura of Calm was a Mullins reserve who won last time out at 20/1, coming from literally nowhere to destroy the competition in a matter of strides at the end. It showed lots of potential.

    Absolutely hacked up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Not too bad a day considering. 4 winners from 7 at Cork is decent enough, even if they were all short priced winners. I've thought about it and I'll keep this going for a while to see how profitable it would be with placepot betting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    What a day for willy! That Aura of Calm was sus big time last time out, won easy today. Didnt touch the race, nor the first handicap either (had my eye on Kleinova and UCanStep - who need softer IMO). Got a phonecall for Aura of Calm this morning but bottled it!

    Backed Euro Leader at 5/4
    and Drumderry at 9/4 :)

    made some of money back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Folkestone
    2.20 Bahamian Love 3rd @ 9/2
    2.50 Sweet Pickle unplaced
    3.20 Taranaki 3rd @ 4/1
    3.50 Black Moma
    4.20 Bobsleigh
    4.50 Benbrook

    Galway
    3.45 Lady Shanghai
    4.15 Rajeh
    4.45 Rockall Blizzard
    5.15 Mull on the Run
    5.45 Luckyvera
    6.15 Incline
    6.45 Deep Return
    7.15 Marfinca

    Redar
    2.10 My Mirasol / Carillon 1st @ 15/2
    2.40 Caj unplaced
    3.10 Jardines Bazaar unplaced
    3.40 Government
    4.10 Spinning
    4.40 Planters Punch
    5.10 Harington Bates
    5.40 Coronation Flight

    Wolverhampton
    2.30 Mr Loire 3rd
    3.00 Gilded Cove unplaced
    3.30 Mighty Dancer
    4.00 La Viola / Keon
    4.30 Joshua's Gold
    5.00 Bel Cantor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Ayr
    1.40 Glenbuck
    2.10 La Presse
    2.40 St. Petersburg
    3.15 Borderlescott
    3.50 Tender Moments
    4.25 Ashaawes

    Catterick
    1.20 Tagart / Nautico
    2.00 Cadeaux Du Monde
    2.30 Tuscany Rose
    3.05 Monkey Glas
    3.40 Nero's Return
    4.10 Ebraam

    Newbury
    1.50 Longquan
    2.25 Cheap Street
    2.55 Doctor Brown
    3.30 Formal Decree
    4.05 Dixie Belle
    4.40 Plum Pudding

    Warwick
    1.45 Namir
    2.15 Love Dubai
    2.50 Bay of Light
    3.25 Stanley George
    3.55 Stagehand
    4.30 Gandalf

    Wolverhampton
    7.00 Sedge
    7.30 Only Hope
    8.00 Signal Hill
    8.30 Aussie Cricket
    9.00 Zalkani
    9.30 Count Cougar


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