is it legit to let other people play on your account?

El Stuntman

specifically for the purposes of clearing a bonus through low-risk play, i.e. low buy-in SNGs?? $10

I need to play about 200 SNGs to clear a bonus of $500 but don't have the time (or the willpower!) to do this myself. Could try playing turbos I suppose

Is it legitimate to give my account details to someone else and have them do it for me? I'd then split the bonus with them and they can also keep any money they make on the SNGs. Nice money for a student type...

I genuinely don't know if this is OK or not so all serious answers appreciated please.

luckylucky

I think many people do this. I doubt if there is any prob with this, I mean if you were playing at home, a friend of yours or your partner could easily pop on to play for you and I can't imagine any poker site has any problem with this, it's still making them money in the end.

As I say I doubt if there's any prob (though I'm not absolutely sure) with the poker sites but at the end of the day there is no way for them to know it's not you anyway is there ?:D

In terms of dishonesty goes well I wouldn't consider it to be dishonest... you are not colluding.. I guess the one advantage your friend playing for you has is that any notes people have on you are redundant unless your friend plays very similar but I don't think that advantage goes as far as to be considered cheating.

I'd say go fo it but If you're really concerned you could check out the sites terms and conditions

Boie

I'm pretty sure it not legit, at least I've read so in some of the sites terms and agreements. A lot of high stakes players seem to do it though from what I've read.

PPP-Pit Boss

I can give you are view only... It is not legitimate and it is contrary to t's and c's. See below:
Your account is personal to you. You shall not allow others to use your account or to accept any prize or participate in any of the Games. Any person found to have violated this section will be liable for all losses on the account but will not be entitled to collect any winnings.

7. KEEPING YOUR ACCOUNT SECURE

It is your responsibility to keep your password private and secure. We recommend that you disable any automatic password memory in your browser prior to using the site. This will help to limit the risk to you of unauthorised use of your account.

Players are solely responsible for the security of their account information and password(s). Should you inadvertently disclose your password to another person, you agree to contact Us immediately to modify the password. You are responsible for any unauthorized use of your account and/or password. In the event that a third party places a stake or is thought to have placed a stake, such stake shall be valid and the liability will be with you the player, whether or not the alleged third party had the prior consent or knowledge of the player or has misappropriated account and password information of the player


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The main reason why this would be considered wrong is this:
In internet poker your identity and the ability to take notes is the net version of live poker when you sit down at a table with someone you know is say loose aggressive, likes to play suited connectors from mid position etc. So exit stage left genuine account holder and enter new player misrepresenting as genuine player.....

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As Boie said I strongly suggest you check the terms and conditions of the site you are playing on.

On a personal note
If your friend ever say won a ticket to the WSOP on your account a row might ensue as the ticket would belong to the account holder only.

Lafortezza

I think it's against every site's T's & C's but how will they ever know? Stars had a problem with this when there was one poker account that was being played around the clock. It was obviously a team effort but how could Stars prove it?

RasTa

I'll do it!

PPP-Pit Boss

lafortezza wrote:

I think it's against every site's T's & C's but how will they ever know? Stars had a problem with this when there was one poker account that was being played around the clock. It was obviously a team effort but how could Stars prove it?

Yep absolutely it is very difficult to prove in some cases but we have caught it and dealt with it.

luckylucky

Yeah the more I think about it I can see a few genuine reasons why the sites would have a problem with this, but in practice it's a grey area... I mean my wife doesn't play poker but I'm sure there must be couples who play off the one account and even if a site knew this to be true I doubt they would look to enforce the rules here. I rem playing a multi-table on ladbrokes when one of the top players there let's call him John(not real name) was chatting to some people on the table when John said it's not actually John it's his wife and this guy is a very well known poker player on Ladbrokes and it's written proof that it was his wife playing and not him and Ladbrokes obviously have done nothing about it.

Anyways I have never heard of anybody being barred for doing this, be interested to know if somebody else has?

El Stuntman

well given that the consensus seems to be that it's unethical, I'll chug through this myself today and tomorrow.

Just played 12 HU Turbo SNGs over lunch, won 6 for an overall loss of $3 but at least the promotional points are falling off fairly rapidly...got rivered 3 times while all-in too!!!:mad:

OwenHargreaves

Unethical maybe but why in God's name would any site want to clamp down on it? So long as there is no collusion/chip dumping/bot's/illegal programs in use, simply an account playing 24/7 is jackpot scenario for sites surely, constant stream of rake. A lot of sharing goes on, as long as there is no cheating i cant see any major site investing the time to clamp down on it. There's no T&C against overplaying or being an insomniac so trying to prove anything wouldnt be easy and actually against their best interests.

sikes

other players put pressure on the site when they see that certain players are playing 24/7.

mewso

Anyone remember Poker Godfather on the Poker Channel? Playing a tourney on Ladbrokes and all of a sudden the fish you have notes on is playing like [insert cheap pro. hired by tv show here]. Same thing isn't it?

califano

musician wrote:

Anyone remember Poker Godfather on the Poker Channel? Playing a tourney on Ladbrokes and all of a sudden the fish you have notes on is playing like [insert cheap pro. hired by tv show here]. Same thing isn't it?

Dont sully 'actionjack's good name like that ever again!

best poker show ever btw.

Norwich Fan Rob

couple of times ive been running late for a multi i want to play in (15-20 mins usually) and had to phone a friend to reg for me and said something along the lines of keep an eye on it til i get back, give me a shout if u get AA or KK, and for god sake dont donk away any chips !!
(never really considered i was doing much wrong)

MrPillowTalk

PPP-Pit Boss wrote:

I can give you are view only... It is not legitimate and it is contrary to t's and c's. See below:
Your account is personal to you. You shall not allow others to use your account or to accept any prize or participate in any of the Games. Any person found to have violated this section will be liable for all losses on the account but will not be entitled to collect any winnings.

7. KEEPING YOUR ACCOUNT SECURE

It is your responsibility to keep your password private and secure. We recommend that you disable any automatic password memory in your browser prior to using the site. This will help to limit the risk to you of unauthorised use of your account.

Players are solely responsible for the security of their account information and password(s). Should you inadvertently disclose your password to another person, you agree to contact Us immediately to modify the password. You are responsible for any unauthorized use of your account and/or password. In the event that a third party places a stake or is thought to have placed a stake, such stake shall be valid and the liability will be with you the player, whether or not the alleged third party had the prior consent or knowledge of the player or has misappropriated account and password information of the player


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The main reason why this would be considered wrong is this:
In internet poker your identity and the ability to take notes is the net version of live poker when you sit down at a table with someone you know is say loose aggressive, likes to play suited connectors from mid position etc. So exit stage left genuine account holder and enter new player misrepresenting as genuine player.....

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As Boie said I strongly suggest you check the terms and conditions of the site you are playing on.

On a personal note
If your friend ever say won a ticket to the WSOP on your account a row might ensue as the ticket would belong to the account holder only.

I know of high stakes accounts on tribeca that are shared so and have been for a long time so maybe you need to investigate further.

RoundTower

MrPillowTalk wrote:

I know of high stakes accounts on tribeca that are shared so and have been for a long time so maybe you need to investigate further.

No I think you should say you take it seriously and don't allow it, but actually do nothing at all.

bohsman

bollox, there is absolutely nothing wrong/unethical with allowing others to play on your account/ playing on someone elses. I know a few casinos around the country have set accounts set up shared by anyone that wants to play in the casino.

El Stuntman

amazingly enough I've only had 1 PM offering to play for me so far...what an unenterprising lot...:)

califano

El Stuntman wrote:

amazingly enough I've only had 1 PM offering to play for me so far...what an unenterprising lot...:)

Maybe they read the thread where you flung your monitor out the window and feared if they didnt get off to a good start they might get clipped!?.

MrPillowTalk

bohsman wrote:

bollox, there is absolutely nothing wrong/unethical with allowing others to play on your account/ playing on someone elses. I know a few casinos around the country have set accounts set up shared by anyone that wants to play in the casino.

I often wondered how these accounts were allowed operate, the condition should really be removed considering that the practice is widespread and nothing is done to enforce it anyway. Doesnt marcell openly often talk about team playing on the el capitano stars account.

Daithio

It's pretty much impossible that the poker sites will be able to detect it let alone prove it, despite what their terms and conditions say, so I wouldn't worry about it.

El Stuntman

rounders123 wrote:

Maybe they read the thread where you flung your monitor out the window and feared if they didnt get off to a good start they might get clipped!?.

listen here Frenchie, don't get me started on you cheese-eating surrender monkeys...;)

Shaydy won that satellite btw

califano

El Stuntman wrote:

listen here Frenchie, don't get me started on you cheese-eating surrender monkeys...;)

Shaydy won that satellite btw

I represent my country proudly!. Its a bit awkward when a fellow frenchie starts talking french to me though, how can i reply without giving myself away.
A funny moment when i was playing in a gjp online satellite the other day and i was wondering why the Drogheda lads were quizzing me about being an awful long way out of my way to get to Drogheda?. I didnt know what they were on about at first before the penny dropped!.

Yeah glad to hear a good player took it down he told me about it later.