Some folds and calls

Hectorjelly

All 12nl 6 max

Hand 1
I have A9s on the button, make it 8. Unknown makes it 16 from sb, I call. He has 500 and I cover

Flop is J45r. Check Check

Turn 9, he bets 16 I call

River A, he bets 16 - I make it about 50 more. He pushes! I ..

Hand 2
I have 65o on the button. Ok tight player makes it 10 utg, fish calls, I call. Tight player has 600 and I cover

Flop is K56 2 hearts. He bets 30, fish calls, I make it 90 more. He makes it 150 more to me (or so) I...

Hand 3
Blind battle. Guy with 200 makes it 8 and I call from the bb with 22 (he is on the sb), no reads.

The flop is 443 and I check call 10. Turn 5 and he bets 10 again, there are now 3 clubs on the board. I have no club. I make it 40 and he pushes I...

Hand 4
I have QQ on the bb. Utg who is LAGish makes it 10. Cutoff who isnt that tight makes it 30. I have 200 and ???

cardshark202

Hand 1: Fold

Hand 2: Call and raise AI on a blank turn once he commits himself/ bet the turn if checked to.

Hand 3: Fold

Hand 4: Call i guess, not sure about this one, i think all your options are accessible here.

Lafortezza

1) He's pushing over $400 into a $140 pot? AA, AJ or set beats you but he really didn't play it like any of those. I'd be really tempted to call. Is he a total unknown? How has he gotten his stack?

2) Call and get in allin on a non-A or non-K turn. If he has KK so be it.

3) Fold.

4) Either call, or make it $100 to go.

NickyOD

Hand 1: It's a call I think. It looks a lot like how a bad player will play AK.

Hand 2 : Yuck. I think you lose money by not pushing here in a 1-2 game. I'd be extremely surprised to see top set after he bet the pot on the flop. I had a very similar hand in the blinds recent with 67 on a K-6-7 flop and he went broke with Aces. We both had over 450 in a 1-2 game.

Hand 3: You're a ****in lunatic.

Hand 4: Call. Check and evaluate on the flop

cardshark202

NickyOD wrote:

Hand 2 : Yuck. I think you lose money by not pushing here in a 1-2 game. I'd be extremely surprised to see top set after he bet the pot on the flop. I had a very similar hand in the blinds recent with 67 on a K-6-7 flop and he went broke with Aces. We both had over 450 in a 1-2 game.

HJ has described the player as tight, which is why I don't think he will go broke on this flop with one pair. However, if you just call the flop rr, I think you could happily get it in on the turn as any bet he makes will commit him to the pot, especially if he thinks you're drawing.

valor

I fold 3 and call the rest

fuzzbox

fold
fold
fold
make it 100.

cardshark202

fuzzbox wrote:

fold
fold
fold
make it 100.

Wow, you tight fúck

fuzzbox

300 BBs deep is a LOT different than 100 BBs deep sir. (but yeah)

cardshark202

fuzzbox wrote:

300 BBs deep is a LOT different than 100 BBs deep sir. (but yeah)

I know but you are realistically only behind one of his holdings. AA, KK and AK will all be playing the same way on the flop. They may not go broke with AK or AA on the flop but they may do on the turn if they bet big. There's no way I'm folding this.

fuzzbox

cardshark202 wrote:

I know but you are realistically only behind one of his holdings. AA, KK and AK will all be playing the same way on the flop. They may not go broke with AK or AA on the flop but they may do on the turn if they bet big. There's no way I'm folding this.

Im tight and I open raise KK/66/55.

Also - for him to bet flop, get a call and a raise, and then be happy to 3-bet when this deep .... does not signal good things.

HJs action, looks like a hand that beats AK. Therefore he likely beats AA too.

Hectorjelly

Yeah hand 2 I should of folded. He has KK. I doubt anyone with any sense has AA there.

Hand 1 I folded, he had JJJ woohoo!
Hand 2 I got it all in on the turn, he had KK boo
Hand 3 I called all in, he had AKo woohoo
Hand 4 I pushed they folded semi woohoo

cardshark202

fuzzbox wrote:

Im tight and I open raise KK/66/55.

Also - for him to bet flop, get a call and a raise, and then be happy to 3-bet when this deep .... does not signal good things.

HJs action, looks like a hand that beats AK. Therefore he likely beats AA too.

Point taken. Well said. I guess I wasn't thinking along those lines.

valor

I didnt notice stack sizes in Hand 2, stupid me

NickyOD

The difference in styles between party and tribecca is astonoshing. BTW i hete the river raise in H1

Hectorjelly

NickyOD wrote:

BTW i hete the river raise in H1

why? I was actually quite proud of myself afterwards. I think worse hands definitely call. I think just calling is losing a lot of value, allthough if you cant trust your opponent not to move in with with a worse hand then just calling is better.

robinlacey

hand 1 i fold with no reads,however any little bits of info i had on him at all might swing it the other way,but without a read its a fold...

hand 2 ugh if im playing well i probably fold,if not i push,again though if i've seen any evidence that he's out of depth playing this deep i might lean towards a call,but if he overvalues top pair enough for you to be good here you'll get him again,so either way its safer just to fold,going broke with bottom two 300 bbs deep is raspy

hand 3 you got caught,so you fold,i don't see why you posted it?

hand 4 i dunno,i probably just raise/push,but then again people don't reraise that much at 1/2 so its hard to know,it might be a case where your raise only folds hands you beat and obviously gets called by AA and KK,if thats more likely to be the case given how the tables going then i might just call even though this is a pretty lame option and is going to wreck your head on the flop...

robinlacey

NickyOD wrote:

The difference in styles between party and tribecca is astonoshing. BTW i hete the river raise in H1

why?
i don't see how you can just call here,there is obviously value in raising so long as you're aware that you might have to fold if he raises again

robinlacey

wow nice call in hand three,though its obviously one of those calls based on how the game has been going ,i don't think you could call with just the information given,fair balls though

fuzzbox

I'd be pretty sure that calling in hand 3 is a long-term money loser.

Gholimoli

fuzzbox wrote:

I'd be pretty sure that calling in hand 3 is a long-term money loser.

i agree i hate the call in hand 3.

robinlacey

well obviously the call in hand 3 should be a fold given the information in the original post,its just one of those situations where you get a strong feeling of weakness from a bet based on the rhythm the table has been going at or something,happens very rarely and when it does you post a couple of hands to a message board and slip it in as an undercover brag post!

RoundTower

I would fold the first three hands, I think #2 is the most interesting. If the K is not a heart I probably call.

Hectorjelly

Im not so sure you guys are right about about hand 3. Remember this is a blind battle, On the turn I felt pretty sure my hand was good, I raised because I didnt want to give a cheap card to a flush, or the board counterfeiting my hand. Then he pushed which I obviously didnt like but I really felt it was a bluff. The turn small bet then big overraise screamed like a hand that didnt want a call, I expected to see a big club. Late night tribeca 6 handed cash games play pretty aggro.

Hand 2 I really felt there was no chance he was semi bluffing, I should of put that in the OP. His reraise seemed very strong and was definitely a made hand. I think he would either call my raise or push with a draw.

RoundTower

Hand 2 a "tight player" surely slows down with AK/AA here some or all of the time, so if he definitely has a made hand I think folding is correct.

Hand 3 you are behind to a random hand.

Gholimoli

Hectorjelly wrote:

Im not so sure you guys are right about about hand 3. Remember this is a blind battle, On the turn I felt pretty sure my hand was good, I raised because I didnt want to give a cheap card to a flush, or the board counterfeiting my hand. Then he pushed which I obviously didnt like but I really felt it was a bluff. The turn small bet then big overraise screamed like a hand that didnt want a call, I expected to see a big club. Late night tribeca 6 handed cash games play pretty aggro.

.

even though this is blind v blind but the pot was raised.
you raise the turn and on that board he still shoves.
i still think it was a bad call.

Hectorjelly

RoundTower wrote:

Hand 3 you are behind to a random hand.

He doesnt have a random hand though, he has AK AQ AJ with or without a club, and a small chance of a pair.

RoundTower

Hectorjelly wrote:

He doesnt have a random hand though, he has AK AQ AJ with or without a club, and a small chance of a pair.

You can't narrow his range down like that from the info you gave us. If there is something different you're not telling us then why bother posting the hand?

Hectorjelly

RoundTower wrote:

You can't narrow his range down like that from the info you gave us. If there is something different you're not telling us then why bother posting the hand?

He raised from the sb, usually this means AT+ or a Pair, maybe KQ. I didnt think to post this as its so standard in the games im used to

RoundTower

Hectorjelly wrote:

He raised from the sb, usually this means AT+ or a Pair, maybe KQ. I didnt think to post this as its so standard in the games im used to

OK I was thinking more like any 2 cards.