EZ river foldo right?

pok3rplaya

What about the rest of this? Is there anything I can do to keep the pot smaller? Villian was pretty laggy. Like 35/18/3.5 if I remember right.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($328.19)
MP ($200.57)
CO ($219.47)
Hero ($295.35)
SB ($204.75)
BB ($242.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, T. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.

Flop: ($23) 6, 3, 7(2 players)
UTG bets $15, Hero raises to $50, UTG calls $35.

Turn: ($123) 8(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $70, UTG calls $70.

River: ($263) T(2 players)
UTG is All-in for $198, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $263

cooker3

Well I would have called probably but I am a big calling station anyway.

So you clearly put him on a 9 but what kicker, 99 certainly would play like that but what else play a hand like that, T9, 89 perharps?
Is he the sort of opponant who would bluff a dangerous looking river or does he just bet the nuts.
In terms of keeping the pot smaller, well not raising on flop I suppose but I think you actually played it fine up until river but I am still leaning towards a call.

5starpool

Since this HH converter gives no suits I am going to assume there are no flushes out there, which causes me to ask what the hell did you think he was on? Surely 99 is the only possible hand that can have you beaten here, as there can't realisitically be many other hands with a 9 in it that he plays this way.

Surely you are ahead often enough is this spot to justify a call with odds of 2.6/1 with top set?

Slightly off topic: Why does this HH converter tool not give suits?

breadmonkey

I see suits.

Ste05

Realistically I think 56, 89, 66, 77 and flush draws would all play the hand like this (would 99 call the flop re-raise??) and so I'd probably actually call this, as we beat just over half of his possible holdings...

What made you think this was an easy fold, did you have history with him???

I'd have pretty much played the hand the same way too here,

El Stuntman

I call expecting to win

5starpool

breadmonkey wrote:

I see suits.

In a Haley-Joel Osment type of way?

Are you seeing suits in the OP that I can't see or are you saying you can see suits when you use this tool?

breadmonkey

Lol, I see soooooooots in the OP. Do you have pics/avs turned off or something?

I took a screen shot for you. Where can I upload it?

5starpool

OK, I am on work pc with all the accompanying 'not allowed to do this/that/tother' type restrictions of which this is presumably one. I assume that no flush hit anyways from the other responses.

Cheers.

spectre

I think you're good here.

djkeogh

I don't think this is an easy fold at all. The way the hand has played is strange. He's been quite passive most of the way up to the River and has thrown you with his all in bet. Indeed a bluff there is huge and probably unlikely but i wouldn't be 100% he has you beat.

He has the look of chasing the missed flush to me AK - A10 or maybe High pocket pair. only other hands I can see him calling preflop would be 55 - 99 unless he's a complete donkey.

Lafortezza

If you make your turn bet bigger it makes calling this river push easier.

poorbarman

call every time.If he has 99 you are just very unlucky.Looks like a busted flush draw to me,A9 very unlikely

RoundTower

I think 1/3 of the time he has a busted flush draw or something, he hit a perfect card to bluff. Call him. I think you played the hand well and the river is close.

ianmc38

This looks like a call. I think you're ahead here alot.

PokerSquid

djkeogh wrote:

I don't think this is an easy fold at all. The way the hand has played is strange. He's been quite passive most of the way up to the River and has thrown you with his all in bet. Indeed a bluff there is huge and probably unlikely but i wouldn't be 100% he has you beat.

He has the look of chasing the missed flush to me AK - A10 or maybe High pocket pair. only other hands I can see him calling preflop would be 55 - 99 unless he's a complete donkey.

maybe i'm half a donkey...

I agree with low pkt prs calling, but 8s or 9s limping? even under the gun? A/K or A/Q suited limping?

still, I don't find most players risk it all on a bluff, he probably had you pegged for big pair and perhaps had trips himself. Calling seems right.

hands you don't beat include 9/9 or J/9h, the latter being a pretty loose call preflop. 8/9, 10/9, Q/9, K/9, A/9? seem like even looser plays.

what you DO beat is any pkt pair other than 9s, big Ace, etc. yah?

NickyOD

At this level on party this would be 99 alot of the time. Looks like an ok fold to me. ~This is where your notes on his postflop aggression are really important. I'd probably have kept the pot a little bet smaller.

Gholimoli

I don’t like the turn bet at all .
Would you have called if he CRAI on the turn with your big bet?
Unless you know him well I don’t think you should be betting the turn here at all.
Your keeping the pot small yadi yadi yadi and its easier to play then.
As played I think it’s a call .your behind to 89s and 99 that I can see would play this way and ahead of all the rest of it.

valor

I would definitely call here

fuzzbox

In my experience - dudes who check/call like this and suddenly come to life with a big bet - have the goods. And the goods is a 9

Hectorjelly

Villain may well have a lower set or 2 pair, I think you should probably call the river. I think checking the turn would of been good.

fuzzbox

Hectorjelly wrote:

Villain may well have a lower set or 2 pair, I think you should probably call the river. I think checking the turn would of been good.

Lower set????
about 111000000000000:1 that he has a lower set.

spectre

fuzzbox wrote:

Lower set????
about 111000000000000:1 that he has a lower set.

Quick question. If you are villain with 66 how do you play the hand? CRAI on turn?

Hectorjelly

I actually think there is a good chance the villain has a lower set. Remember this guy isnt fuzzbox, his actions dont need to make that much sense. He limps utg with 33, leads the flop because thats what hes read is good. Gets raised and slowplays it to the river. Many villains will be so excited by their set they wont be paying any attention to the board

fuzzbox

The standard line for sets are

A. CHECK flop, minraise flop bet, bet weak on turn, go all-in regardless of river
B. Bet flop, get raised, RE-minraise, bet weak on turn, go all-in regardless of river.

I dont see the bet/call-raise, check/call, open shove line here.

spectre

fuzzbox wrote:

The standard line for sets are

A. CHECK flop, minraise flop bet, bet weak on turn, go all-in regardless of river
B. Bet flop, get raised, RE-minraise, bet weak on turn, go all-in regardless of river.

I dont see the bet/call-raise, check/call, open shove line here.

True, these are common lines. But what is the BEST line for UTG if he has flopped a set in this scenario? Will it differ much for a TAG/LAG player?

I will almost always lead out, I'll usually just call the flop raise, what is my plan for the remainder of the hand, or have I gone wrong already?