75,000 of ye talking - question

BossArky

What exacty does that 75,000 include?

Is it a count of all accounts ever created on boards? i.e. even ones which have been inactive for years and those that are banned / deleted?

If so, how many users have been active in the recent past, i.e. 6 to 12 months?

At a rough estimation 75,000 users for a population of roughly 4 million (give or take those overseas) means that approx 1% of the Irish population uses this site. Subtract the babies and grannies and non internet ready and that means that almost everyone online is using this site.

So, what exactly makes up that 75,000?

monkeyfudge

BossArky wrote:

So, what exactly makes up that 75,000?

Bubbles!

See the bottom of this page, it has the number of users (which I assume is number of accounts ever created).

[edit] Hmm, it's amp's birthday today.

Ruu_Old

Well theres currently 75,639 members going by here, I'm not sure if there have been accounts deleted or how that works or how many are actually active.

Karoma

Happy Birthday amp, et. al. \o/

Very few accounts have been deleted. It includes locked/banned accounts, etc. as well.

Too slow Ruu.

CuLT

Myth wrote:

Too slow Ruu.

He is getting old.

BossArky

This afternoon as I pondered the number I did a profile search on the user ids of people from I knew from years ago (back in the last century and early this century), to see when they last logged on.

Often it was over 4 or 5 years ago - so it started me thinking how many are actually active in recent history which, would be more interesting that all accounts ever created i.e. 75k.

How about "75,000 of ye talking - 65,000 from beyond the cyber grave"?

Karoma

CuLT wrote:

He is getting old.

Lay off him, man! There's bound to be a little bit of a delay as one spams 15 fora silmutaneously.

Ruu_Old

Myth wrote:

Too slow Ruu.

Ah back in my day [rant about walking to school barefoot and young people] etc, etc.

Karoma: How, how, how dare you!

CuLT

BossArky wrote:

This afternoon as I pondered the number I did a profile search on the user ids of people from I knew from years ago (back in the last century and early this century), to see when they last logged on.

Often it was over 4 or 5 years ago - so it started me thinking how many are actually active in recent history which, would be more interesting that all accounts ever created i.e. 75k.

How about "75,000 of ye talking - 65,000 from beyond the cyber grave"?

or "2,000 of ye talkin', 20,000 of ye lurkin' and 53,000 of ye unused, spambot or dual accounts"

Vexorg

For whats its worth

The 75,000 are the registered users, no accounts are deleted.

Last week there were average of 24,279 unique visitors a day.


V.

CuLT

I found a deleted account not three weeks ago

(how, you ask? scanning an old thread in the CS board, there was a post with no username associated and it wasn't an anonymous post)

Edit: here's the post.

DonkeyStyle \o/

So are the 20,000-odd users without any posts to their name also considered to be 'talkin'?
Unless there are a few thousand users who post exclusively on TCN.

Steveire

This was true when 70000 was hit in May. 21000 unique visitors makes a lot of lurkers.

16632 users have made zero posts.

8236 users have made one post.

4226 users have made two posts.

932 users joined before 20th Feb 2000 (Roughly when boards.ie went live)

4932 users joined in 2002.

18447 users joined in 2005.

8614 new users in 2006 so far.

10448 users posted in 2005, and haven't posted since.

20356 users posted in 2005

15465 users have posted this year so far.

5081 users have at least 100 posts.

I think it tells a fuller story.

Vexorg

Vexorg wrote:

For whats its worth

The 75,000 are the registered users, no accounts are deleted.

Last week there were average of 24,279 unique visitors a day.

V.

Wow, impressive.

BossArky

Thanks - those stats are what I was looking for.

ecksor

BossArky wrote:

If so, how many users have been active in the recent past, i.e. 6 to 12 months?

24 Hours: 3104
7 days: 8424
30 days: 14195
6 Months: 31752
12 Months: 44149

Sparky

Suppose in terms of vB accounts created over the years, it amounts to
80,541

An impressive number all the same.

Earthhorse

Vexorg wrote:

For whats its worth

The 75,000 are the registered users, no accounts are deleted.

Out of curiosity, when you click on the Members List it reports on records 1 to 61,613. Are there thousands of "ex-directory" members on boards?

Victor

Sparky-s wrote:

Suppose in terms of vB accounts created over the years, it amounts to 80,541 An impressive number all the same.

There are some blank numbers near the start where various DBs were merged.

Gone West

Steveire wrote:

18447 users joined in 2005.

8614 new users in 2006 so far

Curious that registrations seems to have slacked off a little this year.
Is this the registered people levelling off?
Ie- almost everyone in Ireland who is actively online (and who signs up on forums, not lurks) already has a boards account?

hmmm

delly

FuzzyLogic wrote:

Curious that registrations seems to have slacked off a little this year.
Is this the registered people levelling off?
Ie- almost everyone in Ireland who is actively online (and who signs up on forums, not lurks) already has a boards account?

hmmm

Or maybe Bubbles got knocked down and spent 6 months in traction, that or he's in Mountjoy.

Steveire

Curious that registrations seems to have slacked off a little this year.

True.

Also curious the way registrations in feb'98 has picked up this year...

steveland?

Steveire wrote:

True.

Also curious the way registrations in feb'98 has picked up this year...

Yeh I was kinda wondering how Fuzzy managed that...

Sparky

Steveire wrote:

True.

Also curious the way registrations in feb'98 has picked up this year...

Shhhhh.....

iFight

Interesting stats.

Steveire wrote:

5081 users have at least 100 posts.

I would have thought there would be alot more on that one.

ecksor

The actual number recorded in our database is 5867. I don't know where Steveire is getting his numbers ...

secret_squirrel

ecksor wrote:

The actual number recorded in our database is 5867. I don't know where Steveire is getting his numbers ...

Thats an interesting question, wouldn't you need access to the DB to get those numbers? (which I presume you have and Steveire doesnt)

steve-hosting36

You'd be amazed at how many people have never heard of boards.ie

Steveire

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/memberlist.php You used to be able to do searches on that page, so I got the numbers from there.

padser

To bring us back to where this conversation all started.

BossArky wrote:

At a rough estimation 75,000 users for a population of roughly 4 million (give or take those overseas) means that approx 1% of the Irish population uses this site.

Its an extremely rough estimation, how anyone could think that any multiple of 75 is ever going to 1% of any multiple of 4 beggers belief. Common sense I would have thought.

Its actually just under 2%.

BossArky wrote:

Subtract the babies and grannies and non internet ready and that means that almost everyone online is using this site.

I kinda doubt that grannies and babies make up 99% of the Irish population.

Taking boards membership to be either 1% or 2% (whichever estimate you prefer) Im sure if you check the CSO you will find that at least 30 or 40% of Irish people are online (Ill call it 20% to be safe) , so at the very most 1 out of every 10 people online in Ireland uses boards.

WizZard

padser wrote:

...so at the very most 1 out of every 10 people online in Ireland uses boards.

How mad is that?

DeVore

Come on people...

Clearly we are employing some hubris with the 75,000 number similar to how a parent puffs out their chest when they relate their childs bronze medal at the community games or local chess meet.

There arent 75,000 people on this site this minute, day, week or year.
Ecksor gave the stats:
24 Hours: 3104
7 days: 8424
30 days: 14195
6 Months: 31752
12 Months: 44149

I think the top two are the most important imho...

btw:
Most users ever online was 1,512, 28-07-2006 at 14:02.
When did we stop noting that?? (rhetorical/philosophical question)
I was shocked to see that just now....

Anyway, the number of guests is ALWAYS higher then logged in users, usually about 1:1.5 ratio which should be considered (though at least a large chunk of those users have accounts and may well log in during the week which will include them in the weekly numbers).

As far as percentages go, I doubt we have more then 10% of the the online audience in Ireland. Currently.

As for the slow down in registrations, its only slight and I would imagine its the pyramid-scheme limiting effect kicking in... ie: pretty soon the word of mouth method of reaching people is going to start reaching people who have already been reached. I dont think its about topping out the audience I think the audience is simply no longer as fertile as some of the target people already have accounts....


DeV.

Hobbes

What we need is a new sex and sexuality forum to help boost subscribers again.

Victor

DeVore wrote:

There arent 75,000 people on this site this minute, day, week or year.
Ecksor gave the stats:
24 Hours: 3104
7 days: 8424
30 days: 14195
6 Months: 31752
12 Months: 44149

I think the top two are the most important imho...

Not necessarily, quite a few people have told me they don't post / join, they just read.

BossArky

padser wrote:

To bring us back to where this conversation all started etc etc.

Obviously rough, approx and hyperbole mean nothing to you. The point of the thread was to find # of active users.

Back on topic, some new fangled gizmo is required to get people signed up. How about only allowing people who are not logged in to browse a subset of forums? i.e. After Hours & The Cuckoo's Nest (probably not the best two forums to have only accessible to the general public). This would force new sign-ups as they will know that there is a heap of other info accessible if they bother to actively sign-up.

However, seeing that for the other point of view it does annoy me when the New York times or some such site asks you to create an account to read the news.

Verita

DeVore wrote:

btw:
Most users ever online was 1,512, 28-07-2006 at 14:02.
When did we stop noting that?? (rhetorical/philosophical question)
I was shocked to see that just now....



DeV.

It was mentioned at the time. There is a post on Feed back somewhere.

http://www.theregister.com/2006/07/28/google_earth_swastika/ Is the reason.

DeVore

Thats a bit drastic Bossarky!! lol

I dont want to "force" people to do anything, why would I? Yes I like the fact that Boards grows like a weed but I'm not really into forcing people to do stuff to continue that. *shrug*

DeV.

stevenmu

BossArky wrote:

Back on topic, some new fangled gizmo is required to get people signed up. How about only allowing people who are not logged in to browse a subset of forums? i.e. After Hours & The Cuckoo's Nest (probably not the best two forums to have only accessible to the general public). This would force new sign-ups as they will know that there is a heap of other info accessible if they bother to actively sign-up.

I think letting people see what they're missing out on is more of an incentive to get people to sign up.

Mojito

Vexorg wrote:

For whats its worth

The 75,000 are the registered users, no accounts are deleted.

Last week there were average of 24,279 unique visitors a day.


V.

bollox!

DeVore

We dont delete accounts as a policy because it allows the user to reregister with that name. There are 1500 people online concurrently for a good deal of the day with an average stay of about 30 minutes each (afaik). Vex would have gotten that number from Ecksor or Regi I expect and I have no reason to doubt him (nor by the looks of things have you). Looks like a reasonable number to me. Remember a unique visitor is one unique IP (afaik) which means that repeated dialups will show as duplicates but also an office (like say, Dell will show up as one unique user when in fact it is many.

DeV.

Mojito

FuzzyLogic wrote:

Curious that registrations seems to have slacked off a little this year.
Is this the registered people levelling off?
Ie- almost everyone in Ireland who is actively online (and who signs up on forums, not lurks) already has a boards account?

hmmm

The majority of people I know who are online don't have a boards.ie account, the "75,000 of ye talking" is nonsense. 75,000 created accounts yes, but it just doesn't have they same catch now...

Mojito

DeVore wrote:

We dont delete accounts as a policy because it allows the user to reregister with that name.

They would have to be really stupid to reregister with the same name (and I can imagine some are) I would have thought it would have to do with the posts that that banned user would have previously made?

po0k

Go read a book, inspect your navel or volunteer for some charity work.

Goat save us from pedants.

Mojito

SyxPak wrote:

Hey your pic's in the wrong thread, you should have posted your pick in the "Know your nerds" thread.

Agent Smith

Mojito wrote:

Hey your pic's in the wrong thread, you should have posted your pick in the "Know your nerds" thread.

"SPLAT"


MY sides Just Split.....



Idiot.


With the Idea Of Making some forums Hidden to unlogged in users/ non-members, would that Not strain the servers, haveing a HUGE amount of people logged in at the same time? using DeV's Figure of 1:1.5.

secret_squirrel

agent smith wrote:

With the Idea Of Making some forums Hidden to unlogged in users/ non-members, would that Not strain the servers, haveing a HUGE amount of people logged in at the same time? using DeV's Figure of 1:1.5.

Not sure what you are getting at. It would just increase the occurence of the 'you dont have access to this forum messages' and the simple (and therefore quick, Im assuming) sql query that runs to check access. I cant see that being a significant additional load.

Unless of course the private forums listing is maintained in a heath-robinson fashion.