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Vaguely Interesting STT Hand.

  • 22-08-2006 11:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,745 ✭✭✭✭


    $20 - NL - 9 Seats 11218352-19 Holdem No Limit 30/60
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Hand Start.
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 1 : Aristoff has $1,820
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 2 : THOMX1 has $3,890
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 3 : DonBeech has $3,500
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 4 : damom has $1,680
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 5 : wespacker has $1,800
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 7 : WizardOfAz has $1,920
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 8 : 1Mattman has $2,570
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 9 : RowlyPowly has $820
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : WizardOfAz is the dealer.
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : 1Mattman posted small blind.
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : RowlyPowly posted big blind.
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Game [19] started with 8 players.
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Dealing Hole Cards.
    [Aug 22 21:40:16] : Seat 3 : DonBeech has Kh Kc
    [Aug 22 21:40:19] : Aristoff folded.
    [Aug 22 21:40:20] : THOMX1 folded.
    [Aug 22 21:40:28] : DonBeech called 60 and raised 140 (Smaller than usual raise hoping that the short stack will push).
    [Aug 22 21:40:29] : damom folded.
    [Aug 22 21:40:30] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 2 min.
    [Aug 22 21:40:35] : wespacker called 200 (after 7 or 8 second pause).
    [Aug 22 21:40:35] : WizardOfAz folded.
    [Aug 22 21:40:43] : 1Mattman folded.
    [Aug 22 21:40:43] : RowlyPowly folded.
    [Aug 22 21:40:43] : Dealing flop.
    [Aug 22 21:40:43] : Board cards [4s 5s 2h] (490 in pot).
    [Aug 22 21:40:47] : DonBeech bet 240
    [Aug 22 21:40:48] : Stakes: 30/60 Current level: 2 Next level in: 1 min.
    [Aug 22 21:40:49] : wespacker called 240 and raised 960
    [Aug 22 21:41:03] : It's your turn.
    [Aug 22 21:41:03] : DonBeech has 10 seconds to respond.

    I've already made 2 minor mistakes here with the size of both my pfr and cont bet, so I'm a bit flustered.
    I really struggle to put him on a hand here. He raises my cont bet x3 leaving himself just 400 behind. I'd have expected a proper push from a drawing hand, or a flat call from a set (or possibly a horrid min-raise).
    The nature of the flop doesn't lead me to think he has hit a 1pair hand like say a KT8 flop would.
    His pause pre-flop niggles me as well.

    So, Fold, or raise him his remaining 400? (calling obv pointless as they are going in anyway).

    (If anyone wants to play the 'Its obvious he has XX' game then go for it, we do get to see his hand).


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Im all in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭gerry87


    My guess is a lowish pocket pair 66/77. The pause preflop may be him deciding whether to raise or flat call and take it from there. He's probably figuring that flop can't have helped you, putting you two overcards and wants to end the hand now since he knows there's probably going to be an over card on the turn.

    As you say he wouldnt push with a set, so i think your ahead here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Marq


    I can't fold here in an STT. All in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭staringelf


    this is an easy all in at any buy in level sng. in situations like this you are ahead 99% of the time in my experience


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭Lafortezza


    arr-in! His hand range is pretty wide, anything from flush/gutshot draw with Ax spades, a set, a pair of 66-TT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭califano


    I've already made 2 minor mistakes here with the size of my pfr

    Dont worry about that you got your caller and not 3 or 4 of them.
    I really struggle to put him on a hand here.

    I wouldnt be thinking too much about that. I'd be ok with doubling him up if he's got me beat on this flop.

    For me this is a why decisions are so much easier in stt's than cash games. You lose here you do your $20 but if you lose here in a cash game you do$250 dollars.
    Just wondering for cash game players would you be willing to commit your stack the way this hand has panned out so far in a cash game as easily as an stt?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman



    For me this is a why decisions are so much easier in stt's than cash games. You lose here you do your $20 but if you lose here in a cash game you do$250 dollars.
    Just wondering for cash game players would you be willing to commit your stack the way this hand has panned out so far in a cash game as easily as an stt?.

    your resolve is weakening Rounders....see you in the SE Friday 3am for silly cash game madness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭califano


    Well i assume you should but i dont play cash games and i hear cash game play is completely different from tourney play so i thought i'd ask. Also Marq's comment suggests that it could be a different decision sometimes in a cash game which is really why i ask?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    I'm thinking he has an overpair to the board, and is hoping you raised with AK or the likes. All in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,745 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Cheers to all replies.
    I pushed, he called for his remaining 400, and showed 33 to give him 10 outs(which all missed).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Just wondering for cash game players would you be willing to commit your stack the way this hand has panned out so far in a cash game as easily as an stt?.

    Most of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 880 ✭✭✭eggie


    ianmc38 wrote:
    Most of the time.

    Especially at 3am in the SE :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Just wondering for cash game players would you be willing to commit your stack the way this hand has panned out so far in a cash game as easily as an stt?.
    No I wouldn't, but it would depend on the Villain and History...


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