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Great metal albums that time forgot

  • 22-08-2006 6:46pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭


    A housemate of mine was listening to Cypress Hill's "Skull and Bones" at the weekend there, and it got me thinking - how many of the younger metal generation have heard this album? It's damn good for sure but I'd be surprised if more than a small minority of people who I know listen to metal have ever even heard it, let alone ever rated it highly. While the Metallicas, Rage Against The Machines and Black Sabbath, some of the better "pretenders to the throne" have fallen by the wayside, despite the quality of their output.

    I'm sure people will debate that these albums have been forgotten, but heres a couple of the albums I've listened to of late that I think few listen to these days:
    • Cypress Hill - Skull and Bones
    • Tiamat - Wildhoney
    • Uriah Heep - The Magician's Birthday
    • Queensrÿche - Operation Mindcrime (maybe this one's stretching it)

    What do you listen to that you think few people hear these days?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Pardon my ignorance but I thought Cypress Hill were a hip hop group? confused:
    As for Operation Mindcrime, I doubt very much that its been forgotten as it appears in nearly every "Greatest..." compliation I've ever seen/read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    That's true - but even still many people never seem to have actually encountered them - like I said, maybe Operation Mindcrime is stretching it. However, another mention that could go in there are the Screaming Trees - you rarely hear any of their stuff any more.

    Cypress Hill is mostly hiphop, but take a listen to Skull and Bones and you'll find it's metal for sure!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,638 ✭✭✭bombidol


    Skull and bones second disc is savage. Sen Dog from CH has a metal band too. they are pretty good too. done some music for some TV shows etc before so you have probably heard em. they are called SX10


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Coronor - Mental Vortex
    Mindfunk - Dropped
    Watchtower - Control And Resistance
    Acid Reign - Obnoxious
    Badlands - Voodoo Highway
    D.A.M. - Human Wreckage
    Fight - War Of Words
    Flotsam & Jetsam - Doo***ay For The Deceiver
    The Obsessed - The Church Within
    Sabbat - Dreamweaver
    Trouble - Trouble
    Voivod - Nothingface
    Xentrix - Shattered Existence


    Get them into you :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    I only listened to that second disc a few weeks back and I still love it especially the guitar riff intro for the second track and the drumbeat after it! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭toffo


    Doctor J wrote:
    Coronor - Mental Vortex
    Mindfunk - Dropped
    Watchtower - Control And Resistance
    Acid Reign - Obnoxious
    Badlands - Voodoo Highway
    D.A.M. - Human Wreckage
    Fight - War Of Words
    Flotsam & Jetsam - Doo***ay For The Deceiver
    The Obsessed - The Church Within
    Sabbat - Dreamweaver
    Trouble - Trouble
    Voivod - Nothingface
    Xentrix - Shattered Existence


    Get them into you :D

    Good stuff there, have to dig out Shattered Existence havent heard that in years.

    To add more to the list:

    Sacred Reich- American Way
    Exodus- Bonded by Blood
    Testament- The Legeacy
    Metal Church- Metal Church
    Mercyful Fate- Melissa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Cynic - Focus.

    Not the most underlistened album of all time, but certainly not listened to nearly enough. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    Lard - Pure Chewing satisfaction!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Agent Steel


    Doctor J wrote:
    Acid Reign - Obnoxious
    I'm a big Acid Reign fan, but I think that's one album that time can forget! It's woeful. The rest of your list is spot on though. I was only listening to Watchtower yesterday afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭Nea


    A bit of a mixed bag here.

    Suicidal Tendencies - Lights, Camera,Revolution.
    Days of the New - Days of the New
    Corrosion of Conformity - Blind
    Love/ hate - Blackout in the Red Room
    Warrior Soul - Last Decade, Dead Century

    That Warrior Soul album was class................off home shortly to seek that out


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    I'm a big Acid Reign fan, but I think that's one album that time can forget! It's woeful. The rest of your list is spot on though. I was only listening to Watchtower yesterday afternoon.

    Wha? That was their finest hour by a long way, they finally made a classic and put it in the worst cover ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Agent Steel


    I'd have to disagree entirely! The Fear was their only decent LP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    I'm liking this thread already - I have actually completely forgotten about Mercyful Fate's Melissa, good album :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Sgt. Politeness


    corrosion of conformity - pretty much everything.
    dont believe me?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glYFELzME9o
    savage riff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,026 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Dokken - Under Lock And Key
    Accept - Restless And Wild
    Y&T - Black Tiger
    Faith No More - The Real Thing
    Raven - All For One
    Mindfunk - Mindfunk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Gillan - Mr Universe
    Rainbow - Rising
    Cheap Trick - Any early stuff!

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 981 ✭✭✭tj-music.com


    KISS - Creatures of the night (1982) is a classic in its own right but not well known among the youngsters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    corrosion of conformity - pretty much everything.
    Albums that time forgot, not just bands you think are good. COC are far from forgotten.

    Death - Spitirual Healing
    Sanctuary - Refuge Denied
    Overkill - The Years Of Decay
    Kreator - Renewal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Spiritual Healing? Forgotten? Come come dear Doctor!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Alien Boys Seeds of Decay


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Spiritual Healing? Forgotten? Come come dear Doctor!

    In the grand scheme of things, yes. It is better than the minor footnote it has been allocated. Focus has hardly been forgotten either ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Ancient1


    Pestilence - Consuming Impulse (1989)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    ...just saw this today
    FLOTSAM AND JETSAM's debut Doo***ay For The Deceiver, is being reissued as a Special Edition by Metal Blade Records on October 31st. Originally released in July, 1986, it was the band's only release to feature the soon-to-be legendary bassist Jason Newsted (VOIVOD) who replaced the late Cliff Burton in METALLICA. The original album was produced by Metal Blade CEO Brian Slagel and Flotsam And Jetsam. Aside from a remixed version of the original album, it will include the following bonus material:

    Iron Tears demo: 'Iron Tears', 'I Live You Die'.
    Metal Shock" demo: 'Hammerhead', 'Evil Shiek', 'I Live You Die', 'The Beast Within'.

    The DVD will include the following: The Early Years; High School Interview Take 1 - 1983-84; 'Iron Tears' - Live at Palace West, New Year's 1984; High School Interview Take 2 - 1983-84; 'Hammerhead' - Live in Jason's Apartment - 1985; 'She Took An Axe' - Live - 1985.

    Live at Bootleggers 1985: 'Iron Tears', 'Fade To Black', 'Metal Shock', 'She Took An Axe', 'Children of the Night' (unreleased), 'The Executioner' (unreleased), 'Those Who Defy' (unreleased), 'On The Attack' (unreleased), 'I Live You Die', 'Hammerhead', 'The Beast Within'.

    Seriously, aside from the whole Newsted association, this is a true classic Metal album, I can't speak highly enough of it. Definitely going to pick this up (even though I bought it on vinyl initially, then the tape and finally found the cd a couple of years back :p ) again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    Venom - Black Metal

    Venom - Welcome to Hell (very raw but a classic)

    Thin Lizzy Johnny The Fox

    Sabbat History of a Time to Come

    AC/DC Flick of the Switch

    Metallica Master of Puppets (this is the real metallica, they started to get boring after this... this is the album I think of when i think of Metallica)

    Violence (bay area thrash band.. anyone got a free download..cannot find this anywhere, plus i live in thailand)

    Mamma Boys (bogger irish culchie metal....yeah man!!!!!)

    Circus of Power 1st + 2nd album....

    Carnivore - Retalliation.... (pete steel type o old man) what an album... so politically incorrect its funny... and the 1 minute of vomiting at the start! LOL!

    and for fun...

    Faster Pussycat 1st album...ppppuuuuuussssssssyyyyy ccccaaatttt!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭Chuchu


    This is a good thread, jogging for the memory! I'm newish to boards and don't think I've posted in this forum before... so I may be repeating a discussion already had here but hmmmmmm I'm not sure I'd classify a lot of this stuff as metal, some is more Rock, some is more Thrash (Xentrix forgot all about 'em!)... but I may be showing my age there and maybe these destinctions that we used to make when I was younger are dead and gone... anyway
    The Wildhearts - first album... was it Earth v's the Wildhearts? Some kickin tunes on that one...
    I have to disagree with a previous poster and say the the ultimate Metallica album has to be Ride the Lightning... for Creeping Death and For Whom the Bell Tolls alone.
    What was the name of that Bay area all Asian band, totally forgotten! Remember them having a few good uns.
    If something not really metal is allowed here (Screaming Trees for example) well Alice in Chains can't go without mention, Facelift was/still is fantasic... I remember importing it on cassette (:D !) from Tommy in Sound Cellar!
    Someone already mentioned Testament - The Legacy... great stuff.
    Looking forward to futher posts here....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    Death Angel was the Bay Area asian band. Filipino Americans they were.

    Yeah Ride the Lightening rocks too!

    Tommy in the sounder cellar! LOL!!! would try to sell you anything!
    one day he was harranging me to buy something, and i said if you have Thunder & Lightening by Lizzy I ll buy (knowing well that it was out of print in 1989, as I had been looking for it for years)... he disappears off, and 5 min later he shows up with it, special addition with live 12". 25 punt! deal done, sale mad! Gas man he was!

    Xentrix... saw them in mcgongles... I got chucked out for stage diving!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    AC/DC Flick of the Switch

    Metallica Master of Puppets (this is the real metallica, they started to get boring after this... this is the album I think of when i think of Metallica)

    Erm - I think neither of these albums qualify as forgotten!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭scubagit


    OK here goes,
    Suicidal Tendencies: Join the army
    Pantera: Cowboys from hell
    Deicide: Legion
    Obituary: Slowly we rot
    Brutal Truth: Extreme conditions...
    Death: Leprosy
    Terrorizer: World downfall
    Slayer: South of heaven
    Machine Head: Burn my eyes
    DRI: Crossover
    Paradise Lost: Icon
    AC/DC: Dirty deeds...

    Waddya think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Metallica Master of Puppets (this is the real metallica, they started to get boring after this... this is the album I think of when i think of Metallica)

    Master of Puppets is the album most quoted when metal bands talk about their influences. The 20th anniversary was a major fuss in Metal magazines, so how you consider this forgotten is beyond me.

    I'd have to say GnR's Use Your Illusion albums. Everyone always talks about AFD, but the only hardcore GnR fans seem to still listen to UYI these days. Critics usually ignore them altogether when discussing GnR's music. Coma, Estranged, Civil War, Don't Damn Me, Double Talkin Jive, amazing stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Any Tesla album.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    It think Metallica might have forgotten about Puppets, based on the the stuff that came after.!!
    !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    Carnivore - Retaliation.... (pete steel type o old man) what an album... so politically incorrect its funny... and the 1 minute of vomiting at the start! LOL!


    Cirith Ungol - Paradise Lost and One Foot In Hell (They're getting more popular these days actually)
    Dungeon - Changing Moods
    Axewitch - The Lord Of The Flies
    Exciter - Violence and Force
    Grave Digger - Rheingold
    King Diamond - Abigail (longshot, but a class album!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 316 ✭✭LightofDarkness


    I think the post says great albums THAT TIME FORGOT, not just great albums. Metallica albums have hardly been forgotten (same goes for Pantera and other more mainstream bands).

    Anyway, here it goes:

    Lykathea Aflame - Elvenefris
    Dark Angel -Darkness Descends, Time Does Not Heal
    Shah - Beware, Escape From Mind
    Pan Thy Monium - Khaoos and Konfusion
    Infester - To The Depths... In Degradation
    Symphony X - V, The Divine Wings of Tragedy
    Faith No More - Angel Dust
    In Flames - The Jester Race (I know mainstream, but nobody seems to recognise this as their best work, and everything after it was SH!TE)
    Artillery - By Inheritance
    At The Gates - Terminal Spirit Disease (WAYYY better than that crappy Slaughter of the Soul album)
    Autopsy - Mental Funeral
    Amorphis - Tales From The Thousand Lakes
    Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta - Father of The Icy Age, Ultima Thulee
    Borknagar - The Archaic Domain, Quintessence
    Control Denied - The Fragile Art of Existence
    Demolition Hammer (Pantera's more talented cousin) - Tortured Existence
    Demoniac (Herman Li and Sam Totman's first outing) - The Fire and the Wind
    Destruction - Release From Agony
    Watchtower - Energetic Disassembly
    Exhorder - Slaughter In The Vatican
    Nuclear Assault - Survive
    Pavor (Best Technical Death Band EVER) - A Pale Debilitating Autumn, Furioso
    Sabbat - History of a Time to Come
    Spiral Architect(Cynic + Atheist + more jazz + powermetal) - Sceptic's Universe
    Diessection - Storm of Light's Bane
    Testament - The New Order
    The Chasm - Deathcult for Eternity
    Pink Floyd - UmmaGumma
    Witchery - Restless And Dead
    Xentrix - The Enitre Discography (GHOSTBUSTERS!!!)

    I was getting a little long winded so I made some sacrifices, but there's gold in everything up there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭neGev


    Dissection - Storm of Light's Bane

    The only album of your entire list that I'd disagree with, Dissection are/were one of the best-known BM bands around, and pretty much everyone with common sense thinks Storm Of The Light's Bane is their best.

    To add my 2c, I'll throw in:
    Dismember - Like An Everflowing Stream
    Immolation - Dawn Of Possession
    Demilich - Nespithe (and it's free for download too!)
    My Dying Bride - Everything, they're criminally overlooked by most people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    Heavy Pettin' - Lettin' Loose
    Anvil - Metal on Metal
    Tank - This Means War


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭Millionaire


    not to forget....

    anything by Pilediver!!!! sex with satan... lol...

    i got the vinal album still

    prize of hamper and xmas turkey for those who know who piledriver it...

    and EP too of Irelands first Thrash metal bad....

    Killerwatt!!!

    we thought they d be our own metallica!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Deep Purple - Come Taste the Band, the one with Tommy Bolin on guitar which no-one liked in 1976 and kinda got ignored thereafter. Its really good - just not heavy rock in the expected fashion.

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Burning Tree by Burning Tree (1990), completely forgotten at this stage I think. I bought it as LP and its fab but try and find a copy!

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Black hole sun


    Testament - The New Order
    Faith No More-King for a day, fool for a lifetime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SouperComputer


    No idea if its "forgotten" or not, but found my long lost tape of the Deftones - Adrenaline. Never thought there would be a time that I would be happy to only have a tape deck in the car.

    Quality stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    God's Tower - The Turns

    was it ever remembered? A quality album anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SouperComputer


    bumpage......

    Sepultura - Beneath The Remains, the MOP for Sep IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    I'll tell you 2 fantastic albums that time forgot and I bet you've never heard of the first one:

    King Kobra - Ready to Strike. It's available on amazon and ebay. If you like 80's hard rock/glam metal (it's hard to categorise this album, it's not really glam metal but alot of glam fans like it) you must check this out. Thier other albums aren't as good, get this one.

    Also check out Treat - Dreamhunter. They're kind of a harder, heavier version of Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,822 ✭✭✭Morf


    spiral architect - a sceptics universe

    the best of prog played by black metal musicians


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    First two Mordred albums - 'Fool's Game' and 'In This Life'
    Onslaught - 'The Force'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭toffo


    Suicidal Tendencies - Suicidal Tendencies


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