Scottoilers

murphaph

Anybody have any experiences of them? Thinking about getting one.

MunsterCycling

Also consider http://www.loobman.com/

saobh_ie

They're only great. Get one.

xxx jack

there a great way 2 extend d life of ur chain cos lets face it very few of us oil d chain properly after been out 4 a hard ride

Idleater

murphaph wrote:

Anybody have any experiences of them? Thinking about getting one.

I have one and as far as I am concerned, worth every penny.

Hassle free motoring. Simple to fit.

At the NEC last year they had the "infamous" Blackbird chain that had done 200000 miles (in Germany and probably dry only) and was only changed because the owner did not feel comfortable driving it more - the chain was in perfect nick.

L.

Garibaldi

MunsterCycling wrote:

Also consider http://www.loobman.com/

Have you got one of these? I'm also in the market for a Scottoiler, but would certainly consider this thing if it was worthwhile. I'm not entirely comfortable with taking the bike apart to fit the Scottoiler, and the price of the Loobman is certainly interesting.

Paparazzo

You can get the scottoiler that mounts behing the numberplate, no taking the bike apart. No squeezing a bottle every time you stop, and it uses their oil that is no mess. I had one before, well worth it, the back wheel stays much cleaner to

MunsterCycling

Garibaldi wrote:

Have you got one of these? I'm also in the market for a Scottoiler, but would certainly consider this thing if it was worthwhile. I'm not entirely comfortable with taking the bike apart to fit the Scottoiler, and the price of the Loobman is certainly interesting.

Yes I do, very easy to fit and correct me if I'm wrong but the ScottOiler needs to use its own branded oil? This just uses ordinary engine oil, squeeze it once when starting off and you're done, no need to keep squeezing it all day, waste of resources to have oil constantly on like the scottoiler. The price is also a factor, very nice versus rather expensive for something that does the same job.

MC

madrab

i had one & its broke so many times that i just gave up on it & just went back to doing it manually

MunsterCycling

Which one madrab Scottoiler or a Loobman? If you setup the drip points too close to the teeth then it WILL get screwed up, also the Loobman is dual sided, anyone know if the Scottoiler is dual or not?

OP whatever you do get something, Scottoiler or Loobman. Your chain will thank you.

madrab

it was a standard scottoiler, it broke so i got a dual feeder & then it broke, then i was sad

MunsterCycling

But with your skills as a mechanic thought that would be no problem for you?

madrab

if it was someone elses bike i wouldnt have had trouble with it, Its like what they say about a plumbers taps

sutty

I was out last week, with a lad that had the scottoiler that fits behind the number plate. It is a very neat setup. Chain look in great nick. If I recall the scottoilers also clean your chain as they lube it. You can also set a drip rate on them from what I have heard. I've been thinking of getting one now for a few months. Just not had the money. So I might get one next month... heated grips are needed first

madrab

oh yeah the heated grips are a must, my bike has a fair bit of wind protection on it & my hands will freeze without them (even with them on the really cold days) im sure your naked bike will be fun to drive on those cold mornings

murphaph

Hmmmm, to be honest I like the fully automatic nature of scottoiler.

sutty

Nothing like being lazy

no really theres not, thats why I want one :cool:


Ah sure I'm used to my hands being cold while on the bike. Sure the crusers offered the same protection as the Duc does. But I am ordering this on saturday and hopefully a pair of gloves to keep my hands warm.. oh and a waterproof once piece

murphaph

Jaysus sutty, 624 smackers! :eek:

madrab

Thats why they call him money to burn Sutty

seriously though, ouch

sutty

murphaph wrote:

Jaysus sutty, 624 smackers! :eek:

eh... those prices are ex vat

Kinda been trying to save for this all summer. But been to broke to. Now I have all the moneys stuff sorted out. (and missed two track days for Ducatis) I decided to treat my-self. Plus, I kinda got wet going to waterford on Friday. I used it as the "winters coming, what gear is crap and needs replacing" test

madrab

sutty wrote:

eh... those prices are ex vat

Kinda been trying to save for this all summer. But been to broke to. Now I have all the moneys stuff sorted out. (and missed two track days for Ducatis) I decided to treat my-self. Plus, I kinda got wet going to waterford on Friday. I used it as the "winters coming, what gear is crap and needs replacing" test

...and your buying leathers‽ <--good use of the Interrobang eh? (its my new favourite character )

KTRIC

Yep, he wouldn't be Captain Tight Pants without the proper leathers

sutty

madrab wrote:

...and your buying leathers‽ <--good use of the Interrobang eh? (its my new favourite character )

Well yeah, and a one piece water proof suit.


Well I can try and define some logic to it. But all I can really say is...


I really want to do some track days :cool:

mickbyrne

I've got a belt drive - Its great

madrab

mickbyrne wrote:

I've got a belt drive - Its great

touché

Idleater

sutty wrote:

Well yeah, and a one piece water proof suit.

Phew, at least you are doing that too. Your initial comment about getting Leathers because your current gear leaked got me worried

This has me wondering if Ducati owners are really like (but not as bad as) BMW (motorcycle) owners when it comes to biker gear.

Or perhaps, Jap bike owners don't like to advertise that they drive a Jap bike

Anyway, On Topic, I have never found the Scottoiler messy when refillilling and as far as taking the bike apart to install it, most if not every bike has the balancing nut to which the scottoiler attaches. Have a look on the Scottoiler website, they have step by step guides for loads of bikes. Once set up, it is fit and forget to be honest (apart from refilling the oil).

L.

Dr Pepper

Just as a matter of interest, what are people getting out of their chains?

I bought a bandit last October with 15,000km. The chain wasn't great so it was changed (with sprokets) before I bought it.
I have done another 15,000km since and the chain seems to be fubarred again Although, I probably didn't lube and check tension as often as I should have.

Is 15,000km average for a semi-looked-after chain or particularly short?

/ edit - it's an O-ring btw!

sutty

Dr Pepper wrote:

Just as a matter of interest, what are people getting out of their chains?

I bought a bandit last October with 15,000km. The chain wasn't great so it was changed (with sprokets) before I bought it.
I have done another 15,000km since and the chain seems to be fubarred again Although, I probably didn't lube and check tension as often as I should have.

Is 15,000km average for a semi-looked-after chain or particularly short?

/ edit - it's an O-ring btw!

My Dragstar got 12000-13000 out of the chain before it needed to be replaced. My monsters done over 6000 and its not needed to be thightend really at all. In short to answer your-question... No idea

a_ominous

Dr Pepper wrote:

Just as a matter of interest, what are people getting out of their chains?

I bought a bandit last October with 15,000km. The chain wasn't great so it was changed (with sprokets) before I bought it.
I have done another 15,000km since and the chain seems to be fubarred again Although, I probably didn't lube and check tension as often as I should have.

Is 15,000km average for a semi-looked-after chain or particularly short?

/ edit - it's an O-ring btw!

I remember talking to a guy, who posts as Howlin', on other sites, who used to teach bike mechanics in Ballyfermot. IIRC he had a chain on his old Triumph that had clocked 20,000 miles and I think it was some way from being replaced. But the chain on his bike could be off every month, being cleaned in paraffin (?) and properly oiled.
Mind you I had a chain on previous bike with less that 5,000 miles. Noticed some grinding noises so brought bike to a bike mechanic. He replaced chain and sprockets, for the grand price of 200 yoyos. I can't remember if it was him or me that noticed the grinding was still there: rear bearings had gone, which was a far cheaper job, < 50 quid including labour, but I still had to pay for his muppetry.

Hotblack Desiato

a_ominous wrote:

I remember talking to a guy, who posts as Howlin', on other sites, who used to teach bike mechanics in Ballyfermot. IIRC he had a chain on his old Triumph that had clocked 20,000 miles and I think it was some way from being replaced. But the chain on his bike could be off every month, being cleaned in paraffin (?) and properly oiled.

Nope, just a Scottoiler. No point taking the chain off to clean it when it's clean already

What I mean is - clean o-rings. Dirt on the sideplates is irrelevant. The Scottoiler does a great job keeping the o-rings lubed and clean.

I bought my current bike off him, he certainly does look after them well but the whole point of a Scottoiler is 'fit and forget'. With the touring resevoir you get 5-6000 miles between fills, easy. You probably won't need to adjust the chain in that time, either.

The bike I've run up the most mileage on was my old CBR600. I got 15,000 miles out of the original chain and sprockets on that without going mad with care and maintenance, just regular spray lubing, and very occasional cleaning with paraffin. The chain was developing tight spots at 15,000 miles but I didn't have the time to order it in and replace it before going on a big tour, so fitted a Scottoiler. Got 5,000 more miles out of that chain no sweat.

Had over 30,000 miles on the replacement chain & sprockets when I sold the CBR, and the chain was still in good shape... incidentally this was with "only" the single-sided Scottoiler, the chain was NEVER cleaned in that time, and it saw year-round use, plenty of rain and a couple of track days.

How's that for impressive

tk123

MunsterCycling wrote:

Also consider http://www.loobman.com/

Thanks for that link I just ordered one!! I always end up spraying more oil on the ground or my tire than on the chain!! :rolleyes:

MunsterCycling

No probs, on the site you'll find a link to send them a shot of how you attached it to your machine, if they don't have one already consider sending them a pic of how / where you mounted it to your particular make / model to give others an idea of how it goes on.

MC

tk123

I have saddlebags with brackets on the bike - a marauder - so I reckon I'll attach it to the backet in behind one of the bags.

sutty

I'm thinking of buying the Scottoiler tourer in in the coming weeks. Just one question. When I install it, does the chain need to be prepaired in any way? IE: old lube taken off or something before install and use?

Supercell

I've a tourer going cheap in adverts.ie ..(am very prepared to negotiate on the price)

Regarding old lube..all lube is good tbh.

I'll consider any offer as the kit is just sitting there saying fit me to a bike at the moment http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=5626&cat=45

Idleater

sutty wrote:

When I install it, does the chain need to be prepaired in any way?

Doubt it could hurt but I didn't bother - just threw it on. The oiler really keeps the o rings lubed, the dirt on the outer plates is only "cosmetic".

I would consider a dual injector rather than single (it is possible to upgrade to this after installation of the tank and tubing etc.).

It will take a bit of adjusting in different weathers and you will see if the chain is dry or dripping oil. (If there are any splashes of oil on the tyre then it is too much)

L.

Hotblack Desiato

nereid wrote:

Doubt it could hurt but I didn't bother - just threw it on. The oiler really keeps the o rings lubed, the dirt on the outer plates is only "cosmetic".

Yep. It should be aimed at the o-rings, not the sideplates or the rollers.

I would consider a dual injector rather than single (it is possible to upgrade to this after installation of the tank and tubing etc.).

I wouldn't bother. Apart from the expense, they're trickier to fit and if they fall off / become damaged you need to buy a spare part (the single injector is just a bit of tubing.)
When over 30,000 miles chain life is easily achievable (I've done it with NO chain cleaning) on a single sided injector, what's the point of the double?

It's a marketing thing tbh.

murphaph

Well, just a thank you to Longfield, the kit is grand. Started the install today-gonna take my time at it as the bike is off the road until my new number plate arrives from the north anyway and part of the install involves drilling the plate. Can't legally ride it on its UK plate anymore anyway. Oh, nice meeting you sutty man The Duc is quite unique isn't it! Great sound out of it to boot.

sutty

I hate you

Ah I jest....


[super-secret said to self mode] I must kill him while he sleeps and take the scottoiler for my own[/super-secret said to self mode]

:cool:

BigCon

Shaft drive FTW!