Military salary

3celt

Does anybody know what the salaries are for different ranks of the Irish Army and how they compare to their British counterparts. I know money isn't everything, but at the end of the day,being in the army is still a job.

babybundy

Rank Code Rate Grat wef 01/06/2006

Lieutenant Commander 26 €1,008.26 €295.70
Lieutenant 27 €790.46 €195.11
Sub Lieutenant 28 €771.27 €195.11
Ensign 29 €771.27 €195.11
Warrant Offier 30 €791.05 €155.44
Senior Chief Petty Officer 31 €769.98 €155.44
Chief Petty Officer 32 €706.92 €155.44
Senior Petty Officer 33 €693.72 €155.44
Petty Officer 34 €597.46 €155.44
Leading Seaman 35 €543.18 €155.44
Able Seaman 36 €452.85 €114.21
Ordinary Seaman 37 €434.58 €114.21
Recruit 38 €352.21 €114.21
*** Ranks 30 - 38 receive Naval Pay (€18.48 p.w) ***

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Army Reserve Rates

Rank Code Rate Grat wef 01/06/2006

Lieutenant Colonel 5 €1,249.43 €295.70
Commandant 6 €1,008.26 €295.70
Commandant (Engineer) 20 €1,147.72 €295.70
Commandant (Medical) 23 €1,211.73 €295.70
Captain 7 €790.46 €195.11
Captain (Engineer) 21 €954.85 €195.11
Captain (Medical) 24 €980.05 €195.11
Lieutenant 8 €771.27 €195.11
Lieutenant (Engineer) Max 22 €917.92 €195.11
Lieutenant (Engineer) Min 40 €762.92 €195.11
Lieutenant (Medical) Max 25 €852.61 €195.11
Lieutenant (Medical) Min 41 €713.78 €195.11
2nd Lieutenant 9 €771.27 €195.11
Battalion Sergeant Major 10 €791.05 €155.44
Battalion Quarter Master Sergeant 11 €769.98 €155.44
Company Sergeant 12 €706.92 €155.44
Company Quarter Master Sergeant 13 €693.72 €155.44
Sergeant 14 €597.46 €155.44
Corporal 15 €543.18 €155.44
Private 3* 16 €452.85 €114.21
Private 2* 17 €434.58 €114.21
Recruit G1 18 €352.21 €114.21

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Technician Pay

Grade Amount
Tech 1 €7.71
Tech 2 €25.66
Tech 3 €37.61
Tech 4 €50.19
Tech 5 €75.13


WEEKLY RATES OF PAY

RANK Point on Scale w.e.f. 1/06/06
Private (Apprentice) - -€
On enlistment 1 €232.38
After 1 years service 2 €279.65
After 2 years service 3 €371.11
After 3 years service 4 € 444.39
Private, Grade 1/Seaman, Third Class - €352.21
Private, 2 Star/Seaman, Second Class - €434.58
Private, 3 Star/Seaman, First Class
1 €452.85
- 2 €469.03
- 3 €481.40
- 4 €493.72
- 5 €528.33
Corporal/Leading Seaman
1 €543.18
- 2 €555.46
- 3 €567.84
- 4 €580.16
Sergeant/Petty Officer
1 €597.46
- 2 €612.29
- 3 €627.01
- 4 €641.92
C.Q.M.S./Senior Petty Officer
1 €693.72
- 2 €712.17
- 3 €730.57
- 4 €748.92
Company Sergeant/Chief Petty Officer
1 €706.92
- 2 €725.29
- 3 €743.70
- 4 €762.08
B.Q.M.S./Senior Chief Petty Officer
1 €769.98
- 2 €791.05
- 3 €812.01
- 4 €833.00
Sergeant-Major/Warrant Officer
1 €790.48
- 2 €812.01
- 3 €833.00
- 4 €854.07

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ALLOWANCES

- - w.e.f. 1/06/06
- - -
Military Service Allowance - Weekly
- €
Privates with fewer than 3 years' service
- €39.64
Sgts, Cpls (and Ptes with 3 or more years' service)
- €110.09
Senior NCO's €117.18
Flying Pay-Daily - €6.94
- €4.38
Technician Pay -Weekly -
Group 1 - €7.71
Group 2 - €25.66
Group 3 - €38.55
Group 4 - €51.44
Group 5 - €77.01
Group 6 - €128.45
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Fire Protection Pay - Daily
- €4.83
Pay & Childrens Allowance
Part Payment A.W.O.L. etc. - Weekly - €50.90

Instructors Allowance - Weekly
- €24.67

Patrol Duty Allowance - Daily
- €50.85
In-Charge Allowance N.S. - Daily
- €11.87

Naval Pay - Daily - €2.64
Diving Allowance, N.S. - Daily - €48.06
Assistant Stores Controller - Weekly
- €49.46

NCO's Account Holders - weekly
- €62.75

Mast Rigger/Erector - annual
- €262.99

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Security Duty Allowance - -
(i) Duties which commence and finish within normal working hours -
NIL
(ii) Mon - Sat less than 24 hours - €25.22
Mon - Sat (24 hours) - €50.43
Sundays and Defence Forces Holidays (less than 24 hours) - €50.43
Sundays and Defence Forces Holidays (24 hours) - €100.88
Saturday 24 hour duty (no working day as a rest day) - €75.67
(iii) The daily rates of £14.57 (Mon-Sat) and £29.14
(Sundays and Defence Force Holidays revised on 01/10/00) - €25.22
€50.43
Portlaoise Prison - €75.67
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Border Duty Allowance - Weekly
- €91.77

Army Ranger Wing Allowance - Weekly
€143.01
Explosive Ordnance Disposal Duty Allowance - Daily
- €88.27
Search and Rescue Allowance (SAR Allowance)
- €85.67
Maintenance of Essential Services Allowance
-
Weekdays
- €47.45
Saturday (no working day as a rest day)
- €71.23
Sundays and Defence Forces Holidays
- €94.98
Irish Language Teaching Allowance - Daily
- €2.83
€2.50
€2.16
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Grooms Allowance - Equitation School
- €7.71
Band Allowance
Leading Instrumentalist - Army School of Music - Daily
- €2.16

Overseas Peace Support Allowance - daily
-
Sergeant and higher - €56.62
Corporal - €54.74
Private - €52.86
Overseas Armed Peace Support Allowance - daily
(paid in addition to Overseas Peace Support Allowance) - €21.36

Isolated Outpost Allowance - Daily €13.13
Editors (Connect & An Cosantoir)- Weekly €29.43

Aid to the Civil Authority Allowance


Weekdays €47.45

Saturday (No working day as a rest day) €71.23
Sundays and Defence Forces Holidays €94.98
Election Gratuity €192.36
NCO’s Drivers – Weekly
€7.44

3celt

Cheers Babybundy. You couln't get much more detailed than that.

babybundy

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hailz

could anyone let me know what its gona be like.... my bf of 6yrs has his interview on thursday and id just like to be prepared... whats to be expected....will i get to see him? etc.


theres no info our there for there familys,

thanks.

c-90

whats this military service allowance? do soldiers actually get that on top of their wages each week?

if so a pte with over 3 years is getting 110 on top of 481 a week. and if he/she has a child another 50.

are these calculations right? if so no wonder 10,000 people applied:P

Donny5

c-90 wrote: »

whats this military service allowance? do soldiers actually get that on top of their wages each week?

Yup.

goldie fish

Taxable. Lucky to clear €400 after the taxman has had his cut.

Donny5

goldie fish wrote: »

Taxable.

True, but that's the same for civvi jobs, too. It's not as though taxation is the soldier's burden alone.

neilled

Donny5 wrote: »

True, but that's the same for civvi jobs, too. It's not as though taxation is the soldier's burden alone.

Basically most military jobs in western democracies are attempted to be linked to equivalent public sector payscales. The thing is, those who serve in almost any military don't get over time and have a rather different set of conditions than their civillian counterparts and can expect to spend long period of time on duty, away from families and leave cancelled at the whim of the "needs of the service".

In the UK they call it the "XFactor" and its built into their service salary. To blatently rob from their website it

"compares your Army job to a similar civilian job and weighs up the extra challenges you face as a soldier, such as time away from your family and working under pressure. It also considers the perks of Army life, such as job security and 38 days’ paid leave every year. The X Factor normally means soldiers take home an extra 14% compared to the closest civilian job.

In Australia the same concept exists and its called a service allowance and its military service allowance in Ireland. The rates of pay quoted are 2006 and have substantially decreased since then in line with all public sector jobs in Ireland.

Delancey

neilled wrote: »

The rates of pay quoted are 2006 and have substantially decreased since then in line with all public sector jobs in Ireland.

Indeed - there are folks on this forum who have reported they know of Army families that have found it nescessary to apply for Supplementary Welfare Benefits such has been the impact of pay reductions / Pension Levies.

tac foley

Could that be because you have a lot of older personnel in lower ranks? Fer'instance - older corporals - late 30's or so - with two or three children at achool?

tac

SIRREX

c-90 wrote: »

and if he/she has a child another 50.
are these calculations right?

NO, childrens allowance has not been paid to anyone who joined after the Mid-'80s

tac foley wrote: »

Could that be because you have a lot of older personnel in lower ranks? Fer'instance - older corporals - late 30's or so - with two or three children at achool?

tac

Plenty of privates in that age/family bracket, but that wasn't a problem until heavy pay cuts, along with substantial additional pension levies, cut the heart out of the wage

arybvtcw0eolkf

tac foley wrote: »

Could that be because you have a lot of older personnel in lower ranks? Fer'instance - older corporals - late 30's or so - with two or three children at achool?

tac

I know Pte's, Cpl's & Sgt's who are in receipt of Family Income Supplement, its very distressing on them even to admit they've to go and seek it.

neilled

SIRREX wrote: »

NO, childrens allowance has not been paid to anyone who joined after the Mid-'80s


Plenty of privates in that age/family bracket, but that wasn't a problem until heavy pay cuts, along with substantial additional pension levies, cut the heart out of the wage

Added to the fact that many soldiers have spouses who now have reduced or no wages coming into the house.

tac foley

A British Army Sergeant in the infantry earns -

Sergeant
Level 7 £36,929
Level 6 £36,249
Level 5 £35,569
Level 4 £34,889
Level 3 £34,455
Level 2 £33,603
Level 1 £32,756

But of course he might also be in his late 20's. Most make at least WO2 in their 22 years engagement - 18 -40. I got to Staff Sergeant in just over 8 years service time.

There really is no realistic way of comparing the British and Irish armies' ranks and pay - you seem to spend an awful lot longer in any one rank than any of us do.

tac

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tac foley

feeney92 wrote: »

Tac

Compared to cost of living and currency differences etc. Do the BA and DF earn around the same pay or is one better off than the other? I know in terms of Tour allowances the DF get way more but in terms of general stay at home wages?

Thanks

Feeney92

To answer your question is not as easy as you might think.

Convert the BA pay into Euros @today's rate of 1.277Eu to the pound to get your answer, roughly.

Top level BA sergeant is just over eu 47,000. Without any add-ons that are usual for FSA and so-on.

tac

pontia

differnce is the brits actually fight,what do we do ?

ChunkyLover_53

pontia wrote: »

differnce is the brits actually fight,what do we do ?

We? So you're a serving soldier? Go ask your CS or Platoon Sgt. I'm sure they'll give ya something to do.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

ChunkyLover_53 wrote: »

We? So you're a serving soldier? Go ask your CS or Platoon Sgt. I'm sure they'll give ya something to do.

LOL

tac foley

pontia wrote: »

differnce is the brits actually fight,what do we do ?

Don't overlook that a lot of those 'Brits' are your fellow Irishmen.;)

Just sayin'.

tac

neilled

feeney92 wrote: »

Tac

Compared to cost of living and currency differences etc. Do the BA and DF earn around the same pay or is one better off than the other? I know in terms of Tour allowances the DF get way more but in terms of general stay at home wages?

Thanks

Feeney92

My own take if that whilst the Irish military is a more stable existence with a higher salary, the overall British benefit package is better, (the non core pay and facilities, qualification opportunities) and the chance of promotion and the corresponding pay jumps much greater.

Poccington

pontia wrote: »

differnce is the brits actually fight,what do we do ?

We all go deaf!

Morpheus

pontia wrote: »

differnce is the brits actually fight,what do we do ?

I thought the admins had completed the anti troll defences... oh wait a sec

We? So you're a serving soldier? Go ask your CS or Platoon Sgt. I'm sure they'll give ya something to do.

ah! thats better, well played sir!

wildfowler94

pontia wrote: »

differnce is the brits actually fight,what do we do ?

Whos we?? care to enlighten me?