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Final table 3 handed play....

  • 18-08-2006 3:18pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭


    Villain has over half the chips in play around 180k, i have around 70k, other player (friend and very good player) has around 50k. I did have the chip lead once we lost our fourth player about 120k.

    Since then i have been blinded away as the best i've been able to muster is 62o.....

    The villain, is very LAG, he calls most raises and he is a serial monster limper, the deck is currently hitting him in the head however he is not getting paid by either of us on his big hands....not yet....

    Blinds at 3k-6k, Villain calls the bb and i complete the sb with Q10s, bb checks....

    We see a flop of KJ2 rainbow....I check and villain bets out 15k

    I check raise all in.... im not sure i even like those apples, thoughts please on optimal play here.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    I dont think it is a bad play. There is a fair chance he will fold if you have not been playing back at him previously and even if he does call you have a 30% chance of hitting one of your outs. 3 handed you cannot really afford to sit around waiting too long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭Daithio


    I think it's a very good play. You're increasing your stack by almost 50% and the villain definitely has folding equity, plus you haven't played in a while so he should really give you respect for a hand. Also you have just over ten BB's, so you can't really wait around forever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭ChipLdr


    Although against good/solid players this is a good move it is not the case against poor players who cant lay top pair.

    If you've seen this guy play TP weak kicker to the river then check raising all in is not the way to go as he wont fold.

    However if he has folded above mentioned hands then chk raise is the right move


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    He is likely to call me if he has any of it... however in roughly 45 minutes of play this is the best window of opportunity i've seen, bluffing him pre-flop was practically an impossibility, stealing was a very delicate affair, the only hand he's seen me show down was a set of kings.

    Yet still he has no regard for my bets in raised or unraised pots...... he only plays his cards.

    I have a limited number of hands remaining, 10 bb's 3 handed leaves me with little or no room to maneuver.

    If i do fold, the smallest stack is likely to start gambling and that may bump me up the money.

    Pay out was

    1. 1.3k+150 ticket
    2. 650 + ticket
    3. 400 + ticket

    If my opponent folds i increase my stack size considerably if he calls and i hit my draw i double through and i can take him on HU on even playing fields.

    If i fold i reduce my chances of winning the tournament as each blind gets posted, if i take a gamble I feel i can win outright the 1.3k..

    which move is the more profitable in the long run

    can we flat call this bet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Samba wrote:

    can we flat call this bet?

    Maybe, but you're pushing any turn card, except if you hit your straight (and even then, maybe push anyway).

    Regarding pushing the flop, what does he do when it's checked into him when he's in position, and what hands has he shown down? That's something you should know by now and I think it's the most crucial part of the decision. I doubt this guy lays down a J or a K, but of course he's likely to have missed the flop anyway, so against a normal opponent I think the push is good. By normal opponent I mean a chip leader who's likely to bet when it's checked into him regardless.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    There's nothing wrong with the play after the flop, if he's hit he should fold here as he as to put you on a monster hand, but if he's a weak player and likes to gamble as Chipldr stated, he might not be able to put his hand down and from what you say thats the case. Also, a good player might put you on the draw here, but I dont think this guy is that.

    As for limping in the SB with Q 10 I dont like this, there's a good chance your ahead preflop and you should be trying to take the blind here and limping into the chipleader with a marginal hand means you can't call any re-raise, so I would have push preflop with this hand and take the blinds.

    As for the prize money, there's no point in trying to move up to 2nd as the prize money is not a big difference, I would be going for 1st, so therefore the play after the flop is correct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 sligobhoy


    pretty good move. its either a fold or an all in. no point calling.. btw did u call and who won


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,476 ✭✭✭Samba


    Result:

    He called with AK in a flash and I failed to improve..


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