Ads that dont mention wage- anyone else hate them?

Tha Gopher

I work in a very large company, and internal job openings are emailed around. Thing is, none of them ever mention the pay in the new position. Why is this? Im hardly going to apply for a position thats the same pay as my current one.

aidan_walsh

Why is this?

While we could speculate all we wanted, I'm sure asking your local HR rep would get you an actual answer. Probably just policy.

seamus

I can understand it for internal positions - if you advertise the wage for a particular position, then suddenly the entire company knows how much everyone else doing that job is getting.

For jobs advertised publically, there's nothing more annoying than "competitive salary" or "negotiable". It makes me not want to apply. The main problem is that many employers have no idea what decent pay is for a certain position. You could do an interview for one position and find out that it's waaay lower than should be paid, and do an interview the next day for an identical position and it's much higher than the previous day. Or using catch-all terms like "general operative", where the payscale could be anything from 20k to 50k

I tend to make a habit of avoiding any jobs where the salary isn't stated, or even estimated.

muletide

Tha Gopher wrote:

I work in a very large company, and internal job openings are emailed around. Thing is, none of them ever mention the pay in the new position. Why is this? Im hardly going to apply for a position thats the same pay as my current one.

God, everything is annoying you today. Kids programmes, Wage packets

Saint_Mel

Worse is when recruitment agencies tell you a salary that the company know
nothing about.

I got caught in an interview many moons ago where the agency who set up
the interview had told me the starting salart was €x ... which was a very nice
sum indeed.

During the interview they asked me my salary expectations to which I said
I was happy with the advertised salary they looked at me like I had 2 heads.
Turns out they had never sent a figure to the agency at all.

After, the agency rang to see how things went so I brought up the salary
query to which they denied telling me any figure. Ended up sending them
back thier email which stated a starting salary.

Needless to say they never returned my calls and I heard nothing more from
the job in question!!!

Huggles

muletide wrote:

God, everything is annoying you today. Kids programmes, Wage packets

LMFAO!

Sorry that was too funny!

Doesn't annoy me TBH, it will all come to light at the interview stage, your never going to settle for less than your already on so thats that. Let the negotiations begin. :rolleyes:

TempestSabre

seamus wrote:

...the entire company knows how much everyone else doing that job is getting....

...

In the public sector you know the scale people are on. So theres no real issue with it.

seamus wrote:

...I tend to make a habit of avoiding any jobs where the salary isn't stated, or even estimated.

Same here.

Its a tactic used to drive down the cost of wages. What other reason could there be for it. Its a small minded tactic IMO.

dazberry

Tha Gopher wrote:

I work in a very large company, and internal job openings are emailed around. Thing is, none of them ever mention the pay in the new position.

The company I work in has pay scales, and people are on bands within those scales. The scales actually overlap each other. When an internal vacancy is advertised, it is advertised at the scale level.

Why is this? Im hardly going to apply for a position thats the same pay as my current one.

You'd be surprised. Although I'm in a specialised role I see a lot of people move around different roles on the same scale for both the experience and the variety.

D.

DonkeyStyle \o/

I too hate these ads.
Why ask me what my salary expectaions are when you know better than I do what range you're willing to pay for the position.
Sigh.