Was this a bad call by me

BrokenArrows

5/5NL holdem

Ok well i get delt JQo on the button.

A few people limp the player in the cut off makes it 20.

I call as does 1 other.

Pot is about 75 flop comes Q29 with 2 hearts.

Both players check and i bet 35. 1 folds and player 2 takes a while and eventually decides to call. I place him on AK. Dont think he has a flush draw cause id be calling this without much thought on a draw.

The turn comes a rag we both check. River comes a heart, i think it was a 6. He is all in for 100. I call him and he shows 10Jo. He starts complaining about how it was such a bad call and how me made it look like he had the flush etc. He starts bitching to his friend for about an hour after the hand at how bad the call was. I didnt care i took a few buyins off him in the next 2 hours.

Anyway would you have called him on the river?



Just another hand:

Get delt AKs as the dealer. 5 players limp and i make it 25 and get 3 callers. Flop comes K56 rainbow.

Player 1 goes all in for 50 and player 2 pushes for about 220. I think player 2 is on tilt. He just suffered 2 big bad beats. Call/fold?

I called and he shows 56s. Turn 9 and river 9 and i take the pot.

valor

The first hand cant be commented on, you went with your read and were right, what can we say?

Hectorjelly

If your read is he doesnt have a flush then you have to call! Good call anyway.

Hand 2 you will get better feedback if you dont give results. Hard to call here, but against someone who is tilting I think its a call.

Gholimoli

BrokenArrows wrote:

5/5NL holdem

Ok well i get delt JQo on the button.

A few people limp the player in the cut off makes it 20.

I call as does 1 other.

Pot is about 75 flop comes Q29 with 2 hearts.

Both players check and i bet 35. 1 folds and player 2 takes a while and eventually decides to call. I place him on AK. Dont think he has a flush draw cause id be calling this without much thought on a draw.

The turn comes a rag we both check. River comes a heart, i think it was a 6. He is all in for 100. I call him and he shows 10Jo. He starts complaining about how it was such a bad call and how me made it look like he had the flush etc. He starts bitching to his friend for about an hour after the hand at how bad the call was. I didnt care i took a few buyins off him in the next 2 hours.

Anyway would you have called him on the river?



Just another hand:

Get delt AKs as the dealer. 5 players limp and i make it 25 and get 3 callers. Flop comes K56 rainbow.

Player 1 goes all in for 50 and player 2 pushes for about 220. I think player 2 is on tilt. He just suffered 2 big bad beats. Call/fold?

I called and he shows 56s. Turn 9 and river 9 and i take the pot.

Hand one:
Its not a good call with out a read. if you make calls like this often against decent players then you end up losing a lot.
You didn’t mention whether this player that remaind in the hand is the original raiser or not.
Suppose he is the person that raised initially pre-flop then:
He has raised pre flop and check/called your bet on the flop. he either has a made hand or more than likely is on a draw seen as he chose a weak line and that fits in more with a draw.
Your check on the turn is usually a good line but with such a draw heavy board I prefer a bet here. if I check then I would certainly not call a pot sized bet when the most likely draw (the flush) hits.
Some may say that your check on the turn has induced a bluff but I don’t think that has any merit here as the most likely draw has hit.


Hand 2:
I would not call this unless I had a very strong read telling me player two is a donkey on tilt.

Gholimoli

TBH a none heart K or 8 would look less threatening on this board than a heart.
you say your read was based on the fact that he thought a while before the call on the flop.both OPED and flush draw have the same number of outs pretty much and the same odds .he wasnt on a flush draw but he was on the str draw so would you have called the bet if an K or 8 fell on board based on your read?

BrokenArrows

Gholimoli wrote:

........ so would you have called the bet if an K or 8 fell on board based on your read?

Not too sure if i would have.well if the K fell i would fold because i placed him on over cards. If the 8 fell thats another story. If the 8 did fall id have to think about calling the bet a little more. Different sanario. Probably would fold to the 8 falling.

Gholimoli wrote:

You didn’t mention whether this player that remaind in the hand is the original raiser or not.

Sorry ya he was the original raiser.

delanec8

I dont see how you can say you would fold to an 8 falling and dont fold to the heart. He would be more likely to have a random flush draw than exactly JT here