N7

mysterious

I've look tiressly on the net for PDF. pics etc of the N7 interchanges between Limerick and Clasnevin(east of Nenagh bypass) but nothing.

The only thing I could find is that the Newport Junction will be simular to the signal roudabout over grade like M50, christ.. but that's about it. Thurles interchange on the Nenagh bypass is welcomed also. It will allow commuters from mid tipp and Kilkenny have better access to the new N7 highway. I know people are aware of me ranting before on this subject on delays and no motorways in the midwest etc. It would be awesome to see a blue sign in this region, especially since we now or will have a toll road, which from my understanding, is that the majority of toll roads are motorways... The nenagh to Limerick road should have being motorway as planned. there is an alternate route for tractors and that is the old N7 which is of relatively good standard.

what a public joke.:rolleyes:

It's meant to start this year, Cullen should wave his fairy wand at this stage:D because it won't be 2006 forever...


anyways great if you can post up what you know.

Fool 5000

This is a page from the new Transport21 website about the upgrading of the N7.

http://www.transport21.ie/PROJECTS/ROADS/N7_Dublin_to_Limerick.html

I got this from the archive on irishtrucker.com about the Nenagh/Limerick HQDC .This report comes from January so I dont know why it hasnt started properly yet!

http://www.irishtrucker.com/news/2006/january/1101067.asp

mysterious

Fool 5000 wrote:

This is a page from the new Transport21 website about the upgrading of the N7.

http://www.transport21.ie/PROJECTS/ROADS/N7_Dublin_to_Limerick.html

I got this from the archive on irishtrucker.com about the Nenagh/Limerick HQDC .This report comes from January so I dont know why it hasnt started properly yet!

http://www.irishtrucker.com/news/2006/january/1101067.asp

Cheers for the links.. I've seen them already. To be honest the T21 site is a load of donkey. All rehash news. A new NDP site really.:rolleyes: ...

I wonder who was responsible for downgrading the Limerick to Nenagh section to DC from M status. Originally it was planned as a M route, and from my memory it was the farmers who wanted access to it etc. On top of this back in 2000 when the plans were drawn up and finalised,
It was nearly ready for construction? it was put under the bushes for a while and when the Nenagh bypass was included in 01 or 02 it was changed to DC all the way. ealier plans was always highlighted in blue I.e motorway. Then all of sudden Nenagh to Limerick was changed to High Dual carrigeway status with little controversy.

Then it was meant to start in 2002 and finish first quater of 2005...
In 2003 (early)
then 2004
then 2005
Then jan of O6 - spring 06 then from rumours september coming then what 2007

Is this taking the piss... considering it was already planned in 98?:eek: :rolleyes:

spacetweek

Fool 5000 wrote:

I got this from the archive on irishtrucker.com about the Nenagh/Limerick HQDC .This report comes from January so I dont know why it hasnt started properly yet!

The report is pretty optimistic, it just says that fencing contractors were on site back in January. That doesn't mean much really, sites are often fenced off waaay in advance of a scheme starting.

That said it is supposed to be starting this year so they need to hurry up. So are the tunnel under the Shannon and the M3, but I wouldn't hold my breath on the M3.

testicle

N7 has been fenced off for the last few months.

1huge1

so this will be motorway now
because another topic in this forum states that all dc will be made motorway

good news indeed
i wont have to go through tipperary to bypass those towns that the N7 dosnt anymore (im in south east limerick)

mysterious

1huge1 wrote:

so this will be motorway now
because another topic in this forum states that all dc will be made motorway

good news indeed
i wont have to go through tipperary to bypass those towns that the N7 dosnt anymore (im in south east limerick)

Tipperary?? That's on the N24.

mysterious

1huge1 wrote:

so this will be motorway now
because another topic in this forum states that all dc will be made motorway

good news indeed
i wont have to go through tipperary to bypass those towns that the N7 dosnt anymore (im in south east limerick)

It will be Motorway spec tho, but in greem, pathethic I know. the Nenagh bypass will be a standard type dual carrigeway (Almost like the Cashel bypass I think). For such a busy road, It would be a bit more "finshed" with blue signs, like the plans were, 9 years ago. Methinks.

As it was, the Fermoy bypass was then proposed shortly afterwoulds about two years afterwoulds, and at that point both were motorways. The Nenagh limerick road went EIS etc went on for years. The M7 seemed to evaporate. While the entire N8 is been transformed.

Chris_533976

I think with the N8 they'll reclassify Watergrasshill - Fermoy bypass as M8, build the rest as N8, then once Portlaoise - Fermoy is ALL DC, then reclassify the whole lot as M8. It would make more sense than coming on and off motorway every 40km. Would be far better to just have standard 100kmh DC, rather than forcing people to slow down from the 120kmh motorway. Plus you need much more warning (for legal reasons) when coming off a motorway, so you'd need expensive "SLOW DOWN" gantries everywhere.

So thats my theory anyway, build the N8, then upgrade to M8 when its all done.

mysterious

Chris_533976 wrote:

I think with the N8 they'll reclassify Watergrasshill - Fermoy bypass as M8, build the rest as N8, then once Portlaoise - Fermoy is ALL DC, then reclassify the whole lot as M8. It would make more sense than coming on and off motorway every 40km. Would be far better to just have standard 100kmh DC, rather than forcing people to slow down from the 120kmh motorway. Plus you need much more warning (for legal reasons) when coming off a motorway, so you'd need expensive "SLOW DOWN" gantries everywhere.

So thats my theory anyway, build the N8, then upgrade to M8 when its all done.

What's your theory on the N7?

Victor

mysterious wrote:

As it was, the Fermoy bypass was then proposed shortly afterwoulds about two years afterwoulds, and at that point both were motorways.

I saw the hydrological model for the Fermoy bridge in 1989 (accidentally typed 1898 ).

imeddyhobbs

can somebody tell me why their is an off-ramp for cashel?at the first entrance to the town(dublin side)you just get lost if you want to get back onto the n8

imeddyhobbs

Victor wrote:

I saw the hydrological model for the Fermoy bridge in 1989 (accidentally typed 1898 ).

horses were bigger back in them days,and men were men,they did'nt need shiny cars(they still dont)windmills are a sign of the past,if they fail this time we are all ****ed

Chris_533976

imeddyhobbs wrote:

can somebody tell me why their is an off-ramp for cashel?at the first entrance to the town(dublin side)you just get lost if you want to get back onto the n8

Those roundabouts and presumably the current junctions are all temp until the 2 sections of DC linking with Cashel are done. So they'll probobly put full offramps onto it, which might help with the problems at the moment.

1huge1

mysterious wrote:

Tipperary?? That's on the N24.

sorry i mean i usually go through tipperary town to get to dublin and cut onto the M7 around portlaois but that wont be needed anymore

mysterious

1huge1 wrote:

sorry i mean i usually go through tipperary town to get to dublin and cut onto the M7 around portlaois but that wont be needed anymore

It seems illogical to go via N24 towards Dublin from Limerick... There is no major bottleneck a such on the N7 bar Montrath, to justify avoiding the most direct route. Even still Going up the N8 you have to face Abbeyleix.

I fail to see your reason as to it won't be needed anymore>?

TomN67

I was wondering if anyone out there has an electronic copy of the EIS document for the N7 nenagh to Limerick proposed motorway.
Id appreciate a copy....

Thanks
Tom

1huge1

mysterious wrote:

It seems illogical to go via N24 towards Dublin from Limerick... There is no major bottleneck a such on the N7 bar Montrath, to justify avoiding the most direct route. Even still Going up the N8 you have to face Abbeyleix.

I fail to see your reason as to it won't be needed anymore>?

sorry I didnt mean i go on the N24 I just go through tipperary town but not from the N24
im from south east limerick and its usually the best way to go and cut onto the N8 and then onto the M7 at portlaoise

Its probably shorter to go on the N7 from limerick city but it takes longer due to 3 or 4 towns not being bypassed before nenagh and their usually full of traffic

luckily that wont be the case once the M7 from limerick to nenagh opens

Victor

TomN67 wrote:

I was wondering if anyone out there has an electronic copy of the EIS document for the N7 nenagh to Limerick proposed motorway.
Id appreciate a copy....

Thanks
Tom

Some information here: http://www.midwestroads.ie/Nenlim/Publications.htm

I suspect I have a larger document at home.

Calina

1huge1 wrote:

sorry I didnt mean i go on the N24 I just go through tipperary town but not from the N24
im from south east limerick and its usually the best way to go and cut onto the N8 and then onto the M7 at portlaoise

Its probably shorter to go on the N7 from limerick city but it takes longer due to 3 or 4 towns not being bypassed before nenagh and their usually full of traffic

luckily that wont be the case once the M7 from limerick to nenagh opens

I really can't believe that cutting through Tipp town over the N8 is faster than the direct route up the N7 to Portlaois. I drive from Dublin to Limerick fairly regularly and the bottleneck in Mountrath, although worse lately than usual, has never held me up for more than three or four minutes. M50 toll to Limerick is ca 2 hours 30 minutes total for me. On the other hand, far less of the N8 is bypassed than the N7 and Abbeyleix is far, far worse than Mountrath is as bottlenecks go.