What should i do and what am i hoping for

Bandana boy

Game NL HE 2-4 6 max


Villain 1 A lunatic scandie who is on tilt he is sitting over me
I didnt see him sit down as i was multitabling and became aware when he re-raised my postion raise of 14-18 to 50+ 3 times in a row
Time 4 i played with AJsuited
Flop J98 2 spades i have spades i check he bets 100 i re-raise to 280 all in he calls with 69
He has done the same except folded my check raise a couplo f times now and given me my Stack

Villain 2
Hasnt been here long but long enough to realise that mad scandie is the mark

So on Button I raise to 14 with KQs
V1 SB raises to 55 V2 CO calls
V1 400
V2 450
Hero 1200

Pot 165
Flop JT4 2 to my suit
SB leads for 64 and before i can raise him all in CO min raises to 128


Action

Gholimoli

how can you check raise when the action has not even got to you.
you say your on the button and SB leads so something is wrong here.
anyway im happy playing this hand for the amount in villains stack so push is fine.

bohsman

Im getting all my money in on both hands.

fuzzbox

Yo Bandy..... take a little time to think about your post before you actually post it .

Its not PLO 2-4 its clearly holdem.
You cannot check/raise because you are the button.

Having said that - I shove, and I want both players to call, and I dont really care what they have after that.

Gholimoli

fuzzbox wrote:

Yo Bandy..... take a little time to think about your post before you actually post it .

Its not PLO 2-4 its clearly holdem.
You cannot check/raise because you are the button.

Having said that - I shove, and I want both players to call, and I dont really care what they have after that.

yeah i was waiting to see what his other cards are and then i reliased what he means is not PLO and just PL...

Bandana boy

Edited for the mistakes mentioned above

wrote this before running to a meeting

Well normally i push here and heads up with Mad scandie i defo push as i believe if i get a call i have 21 cards working for me.
But new player probably squeezes out the Mad scandie if i raise (even he is not mad enough to call 2 raises) and now i am left with only getting a call from a really stong hand in the CO
If i flat call surely Mad Scandie has to call 64 into 549 and
A)will likely try a squeeze play on the turn against CO and i am 1-2 to be in a stong postion to play against this squeeze or
check which puts pressure on anything but a really strong hand from CO to check 2 in which case i see if my draws hit

Am i overthinking this and should just take my chance against a possible strong hand and the likely hood I will take down 350 pot uncontested ?

Gholimoli

Bandana boy wrote:

Am i overthinking this

your not over thinking ,your thinking is just wrong and does not make sense dude.
i read your post twice to see if i can get some sort of idea what your talking about and i cant.all i noticed was the word SQUEEZ alot.

Ste05

Calling or Pushing is fine, (I'd just push though) because I want as much money in the pot as possible on the flop, 3 All-In's would be grand, and as Fuzz says, I don't care what the Villains have...

Lafortezza

I think calling is ok too. The pot will be over $400 so Villains are unlikely to fold give stacks if they have hit that flop. Calling also keeps the SB in the hand, in case he *might* fold to your push. If you call and SB pushes then that's good too.
If you call and SB calls, and the turn comes a J or maybe a T, you might be able to lay it down if you think you're drawing dead.

RoundTower

Just go all in, even if he won't call with any pair he probably will with any J. It doesn't really matter what CO has, calling to fold the turn would be bad.

fuzzbox

lafortezza wrote:

I think calling is ok too. The pot will be over $400 so Villains are unlikely to fold give stacks if they have hit that flop. Calling also keeps the SB in the hand, in case he *might* fold to your push. If you call and SB pushes then that's good too.
If you call and SB calls, and the turn comes a J or maybe a T, you might be able to lay it down if you think you're drawing dead.

In PLO that plan is ok, but I dont like it in holdem.

Bandana boy

So it looks like the pushs win it
but i just called SB came along for the ride
Now Pot 549 turn is a blank
SB checks CO bets 100
Action ?

fuzzbox

Well if you think he EVER folds, then shove.
If not, then call.

6.5:1 ... jebus.

valor

This hand is not interesting at all, its a very clear push