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UK Hand Luggage restrictions

  • 10-08-2006 7:12am
    #1
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    As a result of the alert, several extra security measures are in place at UK airports, the Department of Transport announced:

    - Passengers may take through the airport security search point, in a single (ideally transparent) plastic carrier bag, only small personal and essential items, such as keys, wallets and nappies (full list below).

    Nothing may be carried in pockets.

    - All passengers must be hand searched, and their footwear and all the items they are carrying must be X-ray screened.

    - Pushchairs and walking aids must be X-ray screened, and only airport-provided wheelchairs may pass through the screening point.

    In addition, all passengers boarding flights to the USA and all the items they are carrying, including those acquired after the central screening point, must be subjected to a secondary search at the boarding gate. Any liquids discovered must be taken from the passenger. There are no changes to current hold baggage security measures.



    Permitted items as hand luggage:

    Pocket size wallets and pocket size purses plus contents (for example money, credit cards, identity cards etc (not handbags);
    Travel documents essential for the journey (for example passports and travel tickets);
    Prescription medicines and medical items sufficient and essential for the flight (eg, diabetic kit), except in liquid form unless verified as authentic;
    Spectacles and sunglasses, without cases;
    Contact lens holders, without bottles of solution;
    For those travelling with an infant: baby food, milk (the contents of each bottle must be tasted by the accompanying passenger) and sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight (nappies, wipes, creams and nappy disposal bags);
    Female sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight, if unboxed (eg tampons, pads, towels and wipes);
    Tissues (unboxed) and/or handkerchiefs;
    Keys (but no electrical key fobs).


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭mobpd


    and if you're travelling to / from UK airport today then high chance that your flight is cancelled (if you're flying Ryanair) or seriously delayed (other airlines).

    Will Ryanair be charging people to then put their intended hand luggage into the hold?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    mobpd wrote:
    and if you're travelling to / from UK airport today then high chance that your flight is cancelled (if you're flying Ryanair) or seriously delayed (other airlines).

    Will Ryanair be charging people to then put their intended hand luggage into the hold?

    Michael O'Leary has announced that Ryanair are voluntarily waiving all baggage charges for flights originating in the UK today (and as long as the current alert lasts).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    smccarrick wrote:
    Michael O'Leary has announced that Ryanair are voluntarily waiving all baggage charges for flights originating in the UK today (and as long as the current alert lasts).
    Fair play to him!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Bond-007 wrote:
    Fair play to him!

    I'll say fair play to him when I see how many flights from the UK they cancel today (Ryanair)...... Also- he didn't really have any option- you're not even allowed contact fluid...... Bet he's hopping though- Ryanair have sold a lot of their hold capacity to third parties.......

    Reminder to self- use Aerlingus, or even BA........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭Darren


    My sister is working in T4, I am working in T1, Chaos!!!!!


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭sharkman


    Stansted - Ryanair flights cancelled
    Ryanair flights leaving London Stansted airport between 9.35am and 12.05pm have been cancelled.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭sharkman


    Heathrow closed to incoming flights
    Due to the increased security measures, congestion at Heathrow Airport, London's main airport and the busiest airport in Europe, is closed to all incoming flights that are not already in the air.

    Advice from Heathrow's operator BAA is that passengers should not come to Heathrow Airport today unless there journey is absolutely necessary.

    If passengers must come to the airport today, BAA advise:

    travel to the airport by public transport
    arrive as early as possible for your flight
    expect very long delays
    Heathrow - BA short-haul flights cancelled
    All incoming and outgoing British Airways short-haul flights, scheduled for departure until 2.00pm have now been cancelled.

    Stansted - Ryanair flights cancelled
    Ryanair flights leaving London Stansted airport between 9.35am and 12.05pm have been cancelled.

    Disruption to flights into Britain
    Some flights into Britain have also been cancelled:

    Brussels to London airports
    Lufthansa to all UK airports
    Olympic airlines to UK airports
    Air France, Paris to London



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    my ryan air flight cancelled today, I have tried to rebook for free as stated on weblink and when I finally get to the end its actually €28 higher for cheaper flights (.01c each way)? Whats all that about?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    snaps wrote:
    my ryan air flight cancelled today, I have tried to rebook for free as stated on weblink and when I finally get to the end its actually €28 higher for cheaper flights (.01c each way)? Whats all that about?
    Tax?

    You should be entitled to the tax back on the cancelled flights.

    Meanwhile I heard on Morning Ireland that all EI flights to Heathrow are imposing the no hand luggage rule now and no liquids regardless of whether you have a transfer or terminate in Heathrow.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭Energizer


    How long do u think these restrictions will be in place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    trying to rebook on internet and its not allowing me to do so. The ryan air phone number is engaged! Im at my wits end.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Try one of the English speaking foreign numbers

    http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/faqs.php?sect=CONTACT&div=call_ctr

    Other than that I can only suggest dropping into their airport desk at shannon,its a 2hr drive from Galway if you really really need to do something today.

    I'd keep trying the 0818 number aswell on speed dial


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭rubberduckey


    Im travelling from dublin to Edinburgh today, is hand luggage allowed FROM Ireland to UK??

    Id appreciate if anyone knows can't get through to Ryanair.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    According to morning Ireland this morning on rté 1 piece of hand luggage and 1 piece only is allowed on flights to the UK other than heathrow.

    Heathrow-nothing other than the clear plastic bag.

    So You should be able to bring 1 piece of hand luggage to Edinburgh.

    Mind you I think thats silly,whats to stop a terrorist boarding a flight in Dublin and blowing the plane up over manchester or Birmingham???

    Stupid... and then theres Gatwick...

    Dublin are applying the rule nonsensically,I'd imagine the UK authorities will request them to apply the same rule to all UK destinations as they are doing to heathrow-otherwise its a farce

    To be on the safe side,I'd leave room in your luggage to fit whatever hand luggage you want to bring just in case they change the restriction to all UK cities later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭esperanza


    If these restrictions on hand luggage continue to apply (such as only being allowed passport and other small things in a plastic bag), does that mean an end to duty free?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And as expected All flights from Ireland to the UK are now imposing the no hand luggage and no drinks rule.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    esperanza wrote:
    If these restrictions on hand luggage continue to apply (such as only being allowed passport and other small things in a plastic bag), does that mean an end to duty free?
    Not necessarally.Duty free could be purchased for instance and go straight to cargo,to be collected at your destination.

    Something will have to be worked out though.
    I'd imagine,this is a short term measure untill some way can be thought around the risk.
    Business people on flights to America or wherever cant be expected to pay for business class and not be allowed laptops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    I shudder to think what a flight to the likes of Thailand or Malaysia would be like if you cant bring books or mp3 players onboard. Sure they have movies but when I went last year all the screens on one side of the plane didn't work. Thats about 12~13 hours staring into space :eek:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    I'm due to fly with Virgin from Heathrow to Delhi week after next for my brothers wedding :( I suppose they still serve alcohol- so you can knock yourself out?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Well at least Virgin have a reasonably good Video On Demand system on most of their fleet..better hope you get one of those to keep you entertained :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Dellas


    THE USA IS NOT AS STRICHT AS THE UK ::::

    Travel to/from the USA
    The Department of Homeland Security has advised additional security measures effective from today.

    On instruction from the Transportation Security Administration, Aer Lingus advises customers that no liquids or gels are permitted to enter through the screening checkpoint nor purchased inside the security area, are to be to taken on board:

    The only exceptions are,

    Baby formula, breast milk, or juice if a baby of small child is travelling. (The contents of each bottle must be tasted by the accompanying passenger).
    Sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight (nappies, wipes, creams and nappy disposal bags).
    Prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger's ticket.
    Insulin and essential other non-prescription medicines.
    Passengers should avoid or keep to a minimum any carry-on bags in order to expedite the screening process.


    So Ipods still seem to be ok !!! Thank god as with Aer Lingus the entertainment is crap!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭Recon


    esperanza wrote:
    If these restrictions on hand luggage continue to apply (such as only being allowed passport and other small things in a plastic bag), does that mean an end to duty free?

    I'll be flying from Gatwick on Monday but I'm wondering now if the shops inside the security will be open. They sell loads of electronics stuff, maybe it possible to make a bomb out of a bottle of coke and an ipod?

    This extra security crap really is going a but overboard, you must carry all your hand luggage in a plastic bag? Why? Couldn't you just use a gear bag and let the security guys open it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    I think its more like they want to look like their doing something as I fail to see how any of this improves security in the slightest. Its completely ****ed me over already as I was due to spend a week in London at the start of sept but now I cant bring my laptop so I cant go as theres no way in hell I'm checking it in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    I say the ferries are cleaning up right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    Yeah I'd imagine they are. I can see them doing much more business with the business traveler from now on :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Flying


    Does this in a nutshell mean with the likes of Ryanair and their charging for checked baggage will not be possible.

    As I am going to Edinburgh in 2 weeks and I always travel light, rucksack,laptop,phone and enough clothes for a few days.

    Question 1 :

    When I check in will I have to check-in my rucksack and if so will they charge me ?

    Question 2 :

    Checking in a Laptop is going to be dodgy as it most likely could get broken ?

    Question 3 :

    If Ryanair do charge me for checking in my bag can I object as these security precations are not off my own making


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭esperanza


    I'll be flying soon too. I'll have 2 laptops and really don't want to take the risk of putting these in my suitcase, having seen the way baggage handlers handle luggage. Have Aer Lingus adopted a definite policy on hand luggage as yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Flying wrote:

    Question 1 :

    When I check in will I have to check-in my rucksack and if so will they charge me ?

    Yes you will and yes it will cost you €7 per leg as you has not predeclared it online.
    Flying wrote:
    Question 2 :

    Checking in a Laptop is going to be dodgy as it most likely could get broken ?
    Yes and Yes.

    Flying wrote:
    Question 3 :

    If Ryanair do charge me for checking in my bag can I object as these security precations are not off my own making
    Simple answer is no. It's their policy to charge you for hold baggage. You choose to travel and you have to agree to their conditions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    Bond-007 wrote:
    Yes you will and yes it will cost you €7 per leg as you has not predeclared it online.


    Yes and Yes.

    Michael O'Leary said last week that Ryanair will be waving the baggage charge to all passengers from the UK until this thing blows over. So no they wont be charging.

    I would hope that this will have blown over by the end of the month as I am flying to the States with US Air on September 9th. Its seems today that some resctivations have been lifted.

    UK Department of Transport Revised Restrictions for travel ex UK

    The increased security measures imposed by the UK Department of Transport on the 10th of August last on the carriage of hand baggage have been revised. However, BAA Stansted are still to implement these changes and are currently in the process of reviewing their procedures. See below the new restrictions imposed on the carriage of hand baggage:

    Each passenger is permitted to carry ONE item of cabin baggage through the airport security point. The dimensions of this bag must not exceed a maximum length of 45cm, width of 35cm and depth of 16cm (including wheels, handles, side pockets, etc.) All items carried by passengers will be x-ray screened. N.B. Please note that these deminsions are smaller than our published hand baggage dimensions.

    No liquids of any type are permitted through the airport security search point other than the following items:

    Prescribed medicines essential for the duration of the flight: as long as they are verified as authentic.

    Baby milk and liquid baby food (the contents of each bottle or jar must be tasted by an accompanying passenger).

    No gels, pastes, lotions, etc are permitted (e.g. toothpaste, hair gel, drinks, deodorant, shaving foam, aerosols, etc) can be carried in hand luggage. Passengers are encouraged not to include items capable of containing liquids (e.g. bottles, cans, etc) in their cabin baggage.

    All electrical items including laptops must be removed from the bag for screening.

    Pushchairs and walking aids are permitted but must by x-ray screened. Wheelchairs must by thoroughly searched.

    Due to the additional security procedures we ask customers to check in as early as possible to allow sufficient time to check in and to clear security. Check-in for all flights open two hours prior to flight departure and close strictly forty minutes prior to departure. Flights cannot wait for passengers delayed at security points.

    These extra security precautions will inevitably cause delays and Ryanair would like to sincerely apologise for any inconvenience caused.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Flying


    #Elites wrote:
    The ban appears to have been lifted, the only thing you cant bring on is liquids or Gels...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4789169.stm

    "The change in the threat level means the ban on taking hand luggage on to flights from the UK has been lifted, although some restrictions remain."


    Does that include KY Jelly :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    still cant get through to Ryan air to change my cancelled flights. Website keeps saying data base error when I try to change flights. If I do get futher enough on website it will not change my outward flight? Seems I only have until tonight to change as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    snaps wrote:
    still cant get through to Ryan air to change my cancelled flights. Website keeps saying data base error when I try to change flights. If I do get futher enough on website it will not change my outward flight? Seems I only have until tonight to change as well.

    try calling their hq the number is +353 1 8121213 i say there is alot of people trying to call them. good luck with changing your flight.


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